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Mr Ontario
13-03-2008, 04:07 PM
I have been reading about Tren and have found wide spread confusion about it mainly because when one writes "Tren," s/he could be referring to at least 5 different compounds:


1. Trenbolone Acetate--injectable version (Finaject and Finajet)

2. Trenbolone Acetate--pellet form (Finaplix)

3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)

4. Trenbolone Hexahydrobencylcarbonate (called Parabolan on many message boards)

5. Trenbolone Enanthate

The many names of tren have confused many people. I've seen VETs and MODs and MEMBERs of several boards (not just this one) equate one tren compound with another, not knowing that one is actually not equivalent to the other. One common mistake I see is calling Trenbolone Hexahydrobencylcarbonate "Tren Enanthate." They are similar, but not the same (see below). I also have seen people refer to Tren Acetate as Parabolan--wrong!

So, let's clear this up.

The following is a brief summary of the main differences of each that I have created in order to clear up my own confusion on tren and hopefully help others here in the process. It is not meant to provide a detailed description of Tren activity in the body.

1. Trenbolone Acetate--injectable version (Finaject and Finajet)
This is correctly referred to as "Fina." Finaject is the acetate form of trenbolone. It was produced in a short acting ester (acetate), so its effect lasts only a short time and frequent administration is necessary. Finaject was an injectable steroid of veterinary medicine, which was extremely popular in bodybuilding and powerlifting during the 1980's. The injectable Trenbolone Acetate called Finaject is no longer produced.

2. Trenbolone Acetate--pellet form (Finaplix)
Finaplix was a veterinary cattle implant, which contained the potent androgenic steroid Trenbolone Acetate. Once Finaject and Finajet were no longer manufactured, bodybuilders began using Finaplix to make topical or injectable versions of Trenbolone Acetate.

Today, cattle implants have become designer products with varied doses and combinations of estrogenic and/or androgenic (trenbolone) agents. So, the process of converting cattle implants to useful versions of trenbolone acetate has become more difficult since one must separate the trenbolone from the other additives present in the cattle implants before using it.

3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)
Parabolan contains a much different ester than Finaject and Finajet, called Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate. This ester extends the activity of trenbolone for more than two weeks, a more suitable design for human use.

The amount of trenbolone in 76 mg of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate is equivalent to the amount of trenbolone in only 58 mg of Trenbolone Acetate. The acetate is a little more potent, more effective per milligram, because the acetate ester is lighter than the cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester; therefore a higher percentage of the weight of Trenbolone Acetate is trenbolone. A similar comparison also can be made with the other long lasting esters of trenbolone: enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate.

The muscle building properties of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate are the same as Trenbolone Acetate (Finaject or Finajet) except for the longer half-life.

Although it is very similar, this compound is NOT the same as Trenbolone Enanthate. The only difference in these compounds is the esters (see ester definitions below), which all act almost identically (long lasting esters).

4. Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (called Parabolan on many message boards)
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate and Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate are exactly the same substances. Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester is just another name for cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester.

5. Trenbolone Enanthate
Although it is very similar, this compound is NOT the same as Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate). The only difference in these compounds is the esters (see ester definitions below).

THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE ESTERS

The most important difference between the esters is whether it is a short acting ester or a long lasting ester. The next most important difference is the weight of the ester. As mentioned under the Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate section (above), the relative potency of each ester of trenbolone is partially dependent on the weight of its ester.

The main difference between different esters is simply the number of carbon atoms in the ester. Propionate has three carbons, acetate has two, isobutyrate has four, enanthate has seven, cypionate has eight, and decanoate has ten. More unusual esters, such as cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (used in Parabolan) has eight carbons and one more oxygen than the above esters making it the heaviest.

Therefore, the esters of trenbolone in order of potency when compared milligram to milligram (from most potent to least): 1. Tren Acetate 2. Tren Enanthate 3. Tren Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (Tren Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)

The differences in potency caused by the esters are negligible. So, you should base your choice of Tren on how frequently you plan to inject, how much you trust your ********, and how much you trust the brand of tren you purchase.

If you are concerned about the possible side effects of tren, and don't mind frequent injections, then consider using Trenbolone Acetate. If bad side effects manifest, Tren Acetate will quickly leave your body after the last injection due to the short acting ester (acetate); and your body will be able to begin to recover quickly. On the contrary, your recovery from bad side effects won't begin until 2 weeks after the last injection of a long lasting ester of tren because a long lasting ester of tren will stay active in your body for more than two weeks after your last injection--continuing to contribute to the bad side effects.
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Mr.Freeze
13-03-2008, 04:11 PM
good post:)

Kronis
13-03-2008, 05:52 PM
very good post

pseclint
13-03-2008, 06:45 PM
this is kinda like the word to two and too

SiLvErBaK
13-03-2008, 07:03 PM
nice info

Turtle
13-03-2008, 10:35 PM
I would marry tren acetate if I could.

Ontario you back on cycle yet?

Mr Ontario
13-03-2008, 11:10 PM
Turtle put's his Tren in his abs! :)

Ya...just started March 1st. Test Enathate 250mg x3 week with Anadrol 50mg once day for the first month! I'm clueless as to what to you use anymore....getting kinda bored. Shoot me something new would ya!


I would marry tren acetate if I could.

Ontario you back on cycle yet?

Turtle
13-03-2008, 11:12 PM
yeah feel the same. i find myself constantly reading profiles thinking "there must be something else good i haven't tried" lol... nope

Mr Ontario
13-03-2008, 11:14 PM
Test
GH
Anavar
HCG I guess it will be then. lol


yeah feel the same. i find myself constantly reading profiles thinking "there must be something else good i haven't tried" lol... nope

Canadian Bodybuilding
13-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Good post.

Mr Ontario
14-03-2008, 08:50 AM
and Tren for others. lol

Mr Ontario
14-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Dunno bro....I have seen pic's up...ie the GH just the other day.

Let the Master Vet taken them down if he feels the need to.


Some other dude put pictures of of labs on yesterday and i think was ask to take em down, as this lab isnt' a liscenced lab as which even though it's goood, i belvie not allowed on the board? maybe i'm wrong

PS ,, tren rules but for me it's a love hate thing

Turtle
14-03-2008, 06:53 PM
im currently going with: var/prop first 3 weeks... test/eq 10 weeks. wish i ahd GH

St
15-03-2008, 10:32 PM
Fak that i'm going to get some tren now,but not the *xio crap made in the bath tub.Just a side note *xio is EO in it,hurts me not that strong to handle the pain,need someone to hold my hand when i take a shot.

Mr Ontario
15-03-2008, 10:39 PM
Thought @xio was good stuff? B/D that is no longer was good at one point wasn't it?


Fak that i'm going to get some tren now,but not the *xio crap made in the bath tub.Just a side note *xio is EO in it,hurts me not that strong to handle the pain,need someone to hold my hand when i take a shot.

St
15-03-2008, 10:48 PM
Thought @xio was good stuff? B/D that is no longer was good at one point wasn't it?


Yes its great stuff,just the tri-tren.Wonder when there will be a Sus-a-Tren by someone now that would be amazing.

IronRobi
16-03-2008, 12:14 AM
mmmm tren!! I've only ran it once but will definitely be including in my next cycle. Great post, lost of good info!

Mr Ontario
16-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Opps...I hope I didn't turn people into Tren addicts now. lol