Just did first shot

[MMASTAR]

So, just did my first shot, 1ml of test prop, i was so nervous after reading all the stories about fainting and stuff, so i was all worked up and then it was so simple. Few issues though, really hard time time drawing into a 25 gauge and pushing acctually, is this normal? And i was shooting glute, do you guys do this standing or laying down? I stuck it in then had to call my GF over to help aspirate and push it in... how the fack do you shoot a glute by yourself??

[Ritch]

Did you heat the oil? That helps alot. And yes it`s hard to aspirate while doing this without moving the pin around. Lying down just scare me as you can`t see where the pin is goint, but it`s easier to relax. Then again, I`m probably one of the guys here with the least know how. But heating the oil will help for next time. Since you`re doing prop, you will have another chance real soon...

[gicantor]

So, just did my first shot, 1ml of test prop, i was so nervous after reading all the stories about fainting and stuff, so i was all worked up and then it was so simple. Few issues though, really hard time time drawing into a 25 gauge and pushing acctually, is this normal? And i was shooting glute, do you guys do this standing or laying down? I stuck it in then had to call my GF over to help aspirate and push it in... how the fack do you shoot a glute by yourself??

Only pussies pass out. Honestly man up :) it's a needle

I pull with a 20g makes it easier then swap to a 25g for the actual shot. Shooting glutes is awkward you just have to get use to it like anything else.

And I stand and do it.

[beretta96]

glutes are easy, at least for me. I use 18 to draw and 22 to pin. I don't bother heating up the oil. I stand up to do it in front of a mirror so I can see that I'm keeping the same angle and not wiggling the needle around. I did that the first time and it hurt like hell.

I was nervous at first as well, I actually used an ice pack to freeze the area. Got over it fast because it was too much of an ordeal. By your third shot it will go easy and you'll have a system.

[tiramisu]

Drawing with a 25 is annoying as poop. I draw with an 18 the swap a 23 to inject. I used 25's for the last box but found I was shaky with the injections and that the 23's were the best compromise for me as they I can inject firmly without stirring the needle.

[kloan]

Draw with 21g (18g can start to chew up the rubber, causing bits to fall into the oil, potentially leading to crash). Heating helps drawing and injecting. Reaching around is a bit awkward, I find the left a bit more difficult than the right. I gave up trying to do the 'Z method', since gaining weight this is next to impossible with the added size. I do it standing, relaxing the injection site by putting all my weight on the other side. Aspirate with the same hand, just carefully let go of the syringe once it's pushed in, with two fingers gently pull up on the plunger just enough to see a couple bubbles form in the tip, then put thumb back on the plunger and slowly push.

Don't be surprised if you're sore tomorrow and for a few days afterward.

[Big D]

So, just did my first shot, 1ml of test prop, i was so nervous after reading all the stories about fainting and stuff, so i was all worked up and then it was so simple. Few issues though, really hard time time drawing into a 25 gauge and pushing acctually, is this normal? And i was shooting glute, do you guys do this standing or laying down? I stuck it in then had to call my GF over to help aspirate and push it in... how the fack do you shoot a glute by yourself??

ya drawing with a 25 can be hard, but I do it all the time. just heat up your vial first then drawing will be abit easier.

and pushing the oil in can be hard if your trying to rush it, just take your time put some pressure on it and let go in nice and slow, I find that helps with soreness and gear leaking back out.

[MMASTAR]

I did heat it, and it went in very slow, should you be able to tell whe your going into the muscle? I pinned slowly and it never hurt or anything, also thought it might change texture a bit when i got into the muscle layers but it never did... still feels good so far, will update tommorow.

[EpicPhaill]

I don't even bother trying to do my glutes myself anymore, I get my fiance to do it for me. If your gf has no issues doing it, get her to pin lats. I enjoy lat shots. When doing them yourself quads and delts are the easiest. IMO. I use a 23 to draw and 25 to pin.

[EpicPhaill]

I did heat it, and it went in very slow, should you be able to tell whe your going into the muscle? I pinned slowly and it never hurt or anything, also thought it might change texture a bit when i got into the muscle layers but it never did... still feels good so far, will update tommorow.

I can only feel "layers" when pinning quads.

[guest]

25g is f'n way too slow. as some of the other guys i draw with an 18g and shoot with a 23g. i only use 1" though, the 1.2" is where i pussy out, too creepy.

[kloan]

lol, it sure is.. i remember when i first started, first time seeing the 1.5" i nearly shit myself... "no ****ing way is that 1.5"!!!!"

even 1" goin into my delts seems really frickin long.

[nitrous]

Only pussies pass out. Honestly man up :) it's a needle

I pull with a 20g makes it easier then swap to a 25g for the actual shot. Shooting glutes is awkward you just have to get use to it like anything else.

And I stand and do it.


exactly what i do.. i draw with a 20g and shoot it with a 25g no matter where i inject.. less scar tissue that way who cares if it takes a minute to push it in

[Ritch]

I don`t know how you guys shoot with a 25 by yourselves. I was doing it for a while, but the 23 just goes in so much easier. No messing around with the pin causing scar tissue.

[dremen]

I don't even bother trying to do my glutes myself anymore, I get my fiance to do it for me. If your gf has no issues doing it, get her to pin lats. I enjoy lat shots. When doing them yourself quads and delts are the easiest. IMO. I use a 23 to draw and 25 to pin.

Why do you need your girl to do lat shots for ya? I love lats shots, so easy to reach, will take lots of mg's and no pain really:)

[MMASTAR]

So, its the next morning, still no pain, i cant even really tell where i pinned....

[PdH]

lol, it sure is.. i remember when i first started, first time seeing the 1.5" i nearly shit myself... "no ****ing way is that 1.5"!!!!"

It must be a little intimidating when it's longer than your dick eh Kloan? ;)




Sorry Bro, I tried, but I just couldn't let that opening pass. :)

[PdH]

So, just did my first shot, 1ml of test prop, i was so nervous after reading all the stories about fainting and stuff, so i was all worked up

Ah yes, survival of the fittest guy. :mock

[waderow]

I remember my first shot like it was yesterday.
glute shot, test prop. Just like you. I was shocked at how easy it was.
In the future, you will become used to it, but also the adrenaline wont come, so sometimes you will feel the pinch.



18 to draw

23 to shoot glutes
25 to shoot other

[nitrous]

I don`t know how you guys shoot with a 25 by yourselves. I was doing it for a while, but the 23 just goes in so much easier. No messing around with the pin causing scar tissue.

i've never shot myself.. always get the gf to do it

[ultrasafe]

I have read some guys lay down when shooting there glutes.

Lay down on one side and the 'up' side the glute side you will be injecting, push that leg a bit forward and this way exposes the glute more. I have never tried it but have attempted the position and it would appear to be much easier to shoot glutes.

Anybody with experience and /or thoughts

[Solo59]

I have read some guys lay down when shooting there glutes.

Lay down on one side and the 'up' side the glute side you will be injecting, push that leg a bit forward and this way exposes the glute more. I have never tried it but have attempted the position and it would appear to be much easier to shoot glutes.

Anybody with experience and /or thoughts

Just stand in front of the frigg'n mirror (and you don't need your gf to do it for you). I agree with Waderow on needle size, but I always use 1.5 inch. If you only want to inject one inch, just inject one inch. In the glutes — especially the ventrogluteals (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8627&highlight=ventrogluteal) just under the hip bone on the side — 1.5 inches goes in like butter. No pain either. And anybody can reach it.

Solo

[MMASTAR]

Well, it feels like a small bruise now, but not enough to call it pain, im gonna get some 23 gauge needles for sure. Thanks all, and yes, survival of the fittest.

[kloan]

It must be a little intimidating when it's longer than your dick eh Kloan? ;)




Sorry Bro, I tried, but I just couldn't let that opening pass. :)
you're mean :flowers

[Ritch]

You forgot to mention the needle has more girth as well...

[PdH]

you're mean :flowers

True. Sorry Bro, the opening was gold, I couldn't leave it. :greet

[EpicPhaill]

Why do you need your girl to do lat shots for ya? I love lats shots, so easy to reach, will take lots of mg's and no pain really:)

Guess my arms are bigger then yours... lol

Besides just because you can jerk it yourself, does mean you always have too.;)

[kloan]

You forgot to mention the needle has more girth as well...

k that's just unrealistic. :pstfu

[Ritch]

k that's just unrealistic. :pstfu

But funny!

[kloan]

But funny!

couldn't even call me needle dick then..... what would it be, hair dick? micron dick?

"oh, that tickles.. what was that?.... I think I felt something.....are you tickling me with a feather?"..... "sssshhhhh baby, just sit back and relax while i stroke my hair dick on your clit...... just no sudden movements, it might tear...."

[Solo59]

you're mean :flowers

Nice response — with good spelling on an often misspelled contraction!:yeah

Solo

[Ritch]

I`d go with micron dick. Hair dick dosen`t sound to sexy.

[dremen]

Guess my arms are bigger then yours... lol

Besides just because you can jerk it yourself, does mean you always have too.;)


Ha ha ya the "I must be to huge" excuse again....lol

Again how the **** can u guys not reach your lats??? If u can put on pit stick u can reach your lats.

[kloan]

I`d go with micron dick. Hair dick dosen`t sound to sexy.

no? lol....

[dremen]

no? lol....

How about ass clasp...lol:D

[EpicPhaill]

Ha ha ya the "I must be to huge" excuse again....lol

Again how the **** can u guys not reach your lats??? If u can put on pit stick u can reach your lats.

Never said I couldn't bro. You just assumed that. It's easier to have your gf do it for you. I guess some guys have that luxury. Sorry about your luck....

[MMASTAR]

OK so after 3 hours of MMA and getting kicked in the glutes,lol, and grappling and whatnot, it now feels a tad tender, but nothing to whine about, picked up some 1 inch 23 gauge pins for tomorow..

[EpicPhaill]

OK so after 3 hours of MMA and getting kicked in the glutes,lol, and grappling and whatnot, it now feels a tad tender, but nothing to whine about, picked up some 1 inch 23 gauge pins for tomorow..

Are you going to draw and pin the 23? or draw with 23 and pin with 25?

[MMASTAR]

draw and pin with the 23, i wanted 1.5 inch but all they had was 1 inch, but im only pinning .75mls so should be good.

[Memo]

i draw with 23 and pin with 25 why doing anything else?

[MMASTAR]

goes in to slow with a 25...

[C-money]

Ha ha ya the "I must be to huge" excuse again....lol

Again how the **** can u guys not reach your lats??? If u can put on pit stick u can reach your lats.


Just wait till you get some real mass on your upper frame Dremen.. then you ll know what hes saying.... i cant ****ing pin lats anymore.. used to be able too.. no ****ing way in hell now

[dremen]

Just wait till you get some real mass on your upper frame Dremen.. then you ll know what hes saying.... i cant ****ing pin lats anymore.. used to be able too.. no ****ing way in hell now

Maybe we are thinking of different spots on the lats bro cause even when i was at 235lb.s and bloated like a mother****er i could still reach the lats and rear delts, but not the glutes....lol. Twisting around to reach the ass almost gave me a heart attack a few times.

And trust me i would love to have some real mass on my upper frame;)

[bluesteal]

If your to concerned with shooting it in your glutes, why not just do it in your quads. thats the only place i ever inject and it works fine and is not uncomfortable at all. i use 25g to inject and 20g to draw and i dont find it takes to long to inject at all. try the quad, its easier and the oil is still getting into your body.lol

[C-money]

Maybe we are thinking of different spots on the lats bro cause even when i was at 235lb.s and bloated like a mother****er i could still reach the lats and rear delts, but not the glutes....lol. Twisting around to reach the ass almost gave me a heart attack a few times.

And trust me i would love to have some real mass on my upper frame;)

Bodyweight doesnt mean shit if its fat or bloat.. when you actually have dense muscle mass in the shoulder girdle area with thick arms and a thick chest combined with short arms... there is no ****ing way anywhere on my lats i can hit.. yes im to huge to hit lats;)

[dremen]

Bodyweight doesnt mean shit if its fat or bloat.. when you actually have dense muscle mass in the shoulder girdle area with thick arms and a thick chest combined with short arms... there is no ****ing way anywhere on my lats i can hit.. yes im to huge to hit lats;)

Ha ha i know u are huge bro;)

Hope one day i won't be able to reach my lats as well...lol

[nitrous]

im only 185 now and i dont think i could reach my lats comfortably enough to inject myself.. of course i am only 5'6 so short arms are a given

[dremen]

im only 185 now and i dont think i could reach my lats comfortably enough to inject myself.. of course i am only 5'6 so short arms are a given

Try the outer calf then bro. Start off first with 1/2ml and work your way up to 1-1.5mls.

I was shit scared as well, but i tried outer calf one day and never never looked back. A good calf day hurts more lol;)

[jacked_to_the_nine]

Well, it feels like a small bruise now, but not enough to call it pain, im gonna get some 23 gauge needles for sure. Thanks all, and yes, survival of the fittest.

ah jeeze man just get the 22's they are the ones you should be useing and draw with the 21's like Kloan said, if you use anything to big it will cause rubber debris to break off, and trust me, you don't want to accidentaly inject a piece of rubber into your leg, unless you want something that looks like a baby puke bubbling out of your leg... just sit on a bed, ice the leg, put the leg up on a chair so the muscle is flaccid, measure your thumb to your pinky down to the side of your leg, then sanitize, then tap the needle in, aspirate, which you really need to learn to do on your own btw, cuz GF's shouldn't be injecting/spotting/training or advising you on anything, just leave them in the god damn kitchen i say... anyway, use a 22 gauge inch long needle, and rotate qaud to delt to delt to qaud, glute shots are ****in rediculas, maniac!

[MMASTAR]

done 3 shots so far, test prop 75mg,,1.5inch 25gauge, all in the glutes, injecting eod only for 2 weeks so i figured all glutes would be ok, i just move over an inch or so and go for it, first shot had no real pain, 2nd and 3rd had a little more, im just about to do my 4th and im just curious how much of the pain is because it is my first time injecting? its not terrible but it is making sitting and moving around a little uncomfortable, is it the gear that is a litle painfull or is it because its my first time injecting?

[cog]

done 3 shots so far, test prop 75mg,,1.5inch 25gauge, all in the glutes, injecting eod only for 2 weeks so i figured all glutes would be ok, i just move over an inch or so and go for it, first shot had no real pain, 2nd and 3rd had a little more, im just about to do my 4th and im just curious how much of the pain is because it is my first time injecting? its not terrible but it is making sitting and moving around a little uncomfortable, is it the gear that is a litle painfull or is it because its my first time injecting?

Time for the delts.Easy.

[kloan]

Time for the delts.Easy.

My delts hurt more than my glutes.

[dremen]

done 3 shots so far, test prop 75mg,,1.5inch 25gauge, all in the glutes, injecting eod only for 2 weeks so i figured all glutes would be ok, i just move over an inch or so and go for it, first shot had no real pain, 2nd and 3rd had a little more, im just about to do my 4th and im just curious how much of the pain is because it is my first time injecting? its not terrible but it is making sitting and moving around a little uncomfortable, is it the gear that is a litle painfull or is it because its my first time injecting?

Well both bro...lol

And ya it will hurt to sit down if you're only doing glute shots. Honestly just try a delt shot or side tricep shot. For side tricep just push the pin in the 'T' of the side tri and don't go over a ml.

For delts just keep the muscle relaxed with arm hanging down and push the pin in the side delt.

Stick to ass shots for to long and you will end up with some nasty scar tissue and the injection spots might turn a darker color.

I did just ass shots for a month(ED)and injection areas are still a lil discolored, but scar tissue is mostly gone.

[kloan]

done 3 shots so far, test prop 75mg,,1.5inch 25gauge, all in the glutes, injecting eod only for 2 weeks so i figured all glutes would be ok, i just move over an inch or so and go for it, first shot had no real pain, 2nd and 3rd had a little more, im just about to do my 4th and im just curious how much of the pain is because it is my first time injecting? its not terrible but it is making sitting and moving around a little uncomfortable, is it the gear that is a litle painfull or is it because its my first time injecting?
Are you injecting in the same side each time, or injecting both sides?

Say you started with your right glute, then left, then right... if you're doing EOD, that's only 4 days in between shots in each side. That's not enough time for the site to heal. What you're probably feeling is site irritation, and if you keep it up you might start developing scar tissue.. which will only make it worse.

As cog suggested, start doing your delts. You need more injection sites, especially when doing EOD injections. There's just not enough time in between shots for only 2 sites. Even if you move it up or over a bit, the oil spreads.

For delt shots, if you find it hard to reach, try sitting in a chair with an arm rest.. it makes it MUCH easier to reach, and keeps your muscles completely relaxed. I find even with my arm hanging down, the muscle is still slightly tense.

[MMASTAR]

Im just worried that if it hurts in my delt like it does in my glute i will not be able to throw a punch, and that will be an issue as i have a fight coming up...

[EpicPhaill]

Im just worried that if it hurts in my delt like it does in my glute i will not be able to throw a punch, and that will be an issue as i have a fight coming up...

I found it was only sore when hitting a virgin spot. The next time around it was much easier.

[cog]

Im just worried that if it hurts in my delt like it does in my glute i will not be able to throw a punch, and that will be an issue as i have a fight coming up...

I doubt you will notice it.

[declan]

I don't even bother trying to do my glutes myself anymore, I get my fiance to do it for me. If your gf has no issues doing it, get her to pin lats. I enjoy lat shots. When doing them yourself quads and delts are the easiest. IMO. I use a 23 to draw and 25 to pin.

Same here I use 23 and 25, if your oil is heated or even if not as long as the carrier is not thick it will work fine on a 23 gauge.

[dremen]

Im just worried that if it hurts in my delt like it does in my glute i will not be able to throw a punch, and that will be an issue as i have a fight coming up...

Well what if your ass hurts or your quad hurts. If you're worried about performance in MMA training then I would stick to glute and side tricep shots bro.