Nutropin? yea or nay?

[shithead]

Just wondering what everyone thinks of this? I have done alot of research, just wondering what the general feeling?

[Mr Ontario]

Expensive....but may be the only viable route to go soon......

[shithead]

comes in 3 x 30iu bottles? premixed?

[shithead]

Taken from another board:
The reason the depot will yield slower growth results is because it is constantly released. rhGH is rather fast acting, so when we shoot 2x per day (preferably 1x in the morning and 1x early afternoon), we are avoiding exogenous GH in the system at bedtime. This allows the naturally occurring highest amplitude peeks of endogenous GH secretion to remain virtually unchanged. So, you're getting the 4IU/day you're shooting PLUS your endogenous 1-2 IU you'd normally get (most of which is during sleep). Exogenous GH induces a quick response by upregulating the expression and release of somatostatin to inhibit the release of endogenous GH for the next few pulses or so. The depot is a constant stream of exogenous GH, which will upregulate somatostatin release, thus inhibiting your own release of GH to some degree, probably substantially.
There is a great book cleverly titled "Growth Hormone" by Bengsston. If your school has a med school, you can probably get it. It has many relevant GH studies at incredible doses and long periods of time. One study I think was 0.75IU/Kg/day for 6 mos for 20 some males. There are many studies anyone interested in GH should read.
I choose Jintropin for effect as well as price.
The negative regulation of the IGFs I believe are more upstream, i.e. downregulation of GhRH and upregulation of somatostatin, so as to reduce GH release. There may be another mechanosm in the liver that I forgot too, but someone can chime in if I did. If I'm right, then as long as you're injecting your own GH 2x per day and not in the form of a depot, you shouldn't be affecting IGF-1 levels negatively. There's always the addition of LR3 too

[Mr Ontario]

Comes in 30iu kits. Comes in powder & water ones and some premixed!


comes in 3 x 30iu bottles? premixed?

[shithead]

1 kit then lasts a month, right? if so that some expensive shit!

[Mr Ontario]

To expensive for me...thats insurance on my truck for a year!



1 kit then lasts a month, right? if so that some expensive shit!

[St]

A buddy did it said it was high in price, so he went for the Jins after.

[Mr Ontario]

Human grade....what do you expect.

[tripleA]

Human grade....what do you expect.

As opposed to animal grade?

[Mr Ontario]

Pharmacy grade not intended for Animals.... Not sure what your asking!


As opposed to animal grade?

[tripleA]

Well you implied nutropin is human grade so that's why it's so expensive. So are you saying the chinese is not human grade and therefore cheaper?

[Mr Ontario]

Yes! Nutropin made here in Canada is Human grade/pharmacy grade based on our standards here in Canada. So dunno ......would you prefer Chiness grade over stuff made here in Canada? Especially after whats has come about over the years as to what the Chiness are willing to do to make an extra dollar.
But I'm not going to get into this topic again as it has been talked about to many times on another thread. I suggest get what you can get when you can get it no matter what quality it is...chiness or human grade....Beggers can't be chosers shortly. The chiness stuff if you can find will be just as expensive as the Human grade stuff soon. And to be honest I will be using both...human grade and the chiness generic stuff.


Well you implied nutropin is human grade so that's why it's so expensive. So are you saying the chinese is not human grade and therefore cheaper?

[shithead]

In my experience Nutropin is more $$$.

[Dr.Dose]

Nutropin comes in 30IU kits, powder/water, AQ regular vial, and AQ rediject vial. It is made by Roche Canada. It is one of the highest quality GH around, just as Serono, Sazien, and Humatrope by El lilly. As to the quality of the Chinese stuff, it is good as well, just not as good as the Canadian made stuff. If you run both and have the real ones, then you will know. Also you may consider that it is very hard to get the real ones from these Canadian brands as well. If you get real Canadian GH, and want to try it you will see the difference for yourself. You get what you pay for in the end, just the way it is as many of you know by now hopefully.

[Mr.Freeze]

$$$$$:a+

[Mr Ontario]

I try to explain exactly what you just said...but I be dammed it takes me 3-4 post to do it and doesn't sound elegant as you. For fake sake's guy's you get what you pay for....and it's supply and demand right now so be prepared to pay more due to foreseen circumstances. Next time someone mentions or ask the difference between human grade and chines grade GH Please refer them to this thread. :hu


Nutropin comes in 30IU kits, powder/water, AQ regular vial, and AQ rediject vial. It is made by Roche Canada. It is one of the highest quality GH around, just as Serono, Sazien, and Humatrope by El lilly. As to the quality of the Chinese stuff, it is good as well, just not as good as the Canadian made stuff. If you run both and have the real ones, then you will know. Also you may consider that it is very hard to get the real ones from these Canadian brands as well. If you get real Canadian GH, and want to try it you will see the difference for yourself. You get what you pay for in the end, just the way it is as many of you know by now hopefully.

[shithead]

Nutropin comes in 30IU kits, powder/water, AQ regular vial, and AQ rediject vial. It is made by Roche Canada. It is one of the highest quality GH around, just as Serono, Sazien, and Humatrope by El lilly. As to the quality of the Chinese stuff, it is good as well, just not as good as the Canadian made stuff. If you run both and have the real ones, then you will know. Also you may consider that it is very hard to get the real ones from these Canadian brands as well. If you get real Canadian GH, and want to try it you will see the difference for yourself. You get what you pay for in the end, just the way it is as many of you know by now hopefully.

What would let you know? what would someone look for?

[Mr Ontario]

Well for starters you look at me and then compare someones physic who isn't using Human grade. :) j/k Less amount needed for the same desired affect!?:hu


What would let you know? what would someone look for?

[Rrrrolla]

I haven't touched human grade ANYTHING in 5 years. Not saying it's not better, but the extra cost doesn't outweigh the benefit in most people's opinions. I compare myself all the time to guys that exclusively take human grade stuff. LOL at them! They think they have superior testosterone to me, my stuff is dirty and dangerous, their 100mg/ml cyp gives them better gains than my 400mg/ml enanthate, heh, they'll figure it out eventually. Their 800 dollar gh is far superior to my 100 dollar gh... I hope it's at least 8 times better. People that say you always get what you pay for are the guys that only buy kraft peanut butter, cuz it's better, cuz its Kraft!

[Mr Ontario]

Bad comparison especially when compared the $800 Human GH to your $100.00 Generic...I can you one thing..you sure don't get your GH for a $100.00 so lets be realistic!

Oh I had almost forgot....I knew a guy who got hepatis C. He was all good in health till he started using some type of underground gear.:(


I haven't touched human grade ANYTHING in 5 years. Not saying it's not better, but the extra cost doesn't outweigh the benefit in most people's opinions. I compare myself all the time to guys that exclusively take human grade stuff. LOL at them! They think they have superior testosterone to me, my stuff is dirty and dangerous, their 100mg/ml cyp gives them better gains than my 400mg/ml enanthate, heh, they'll figure it out eventually. Their 800 dollar gh is far superior to my 100 dollar gh... I hope it's at least 8 times better. People that say you always get what you pay for are the guys that only buy kraft peanut butter, cuz it's better, cuz its Kraft!

[Rrrrolla]

How do you know what I pay for gh lol. You might be surprised if you do your research bro. It is not unrealistic, I can assure you of that. I know about prices and the rules so I'm gonna shut up.

[Mr Ontario]

If you say you get GH for $100.00 then your lying I assure everyone else on this board of that.....just common sense says so....no there is need to do any research.


How do you know what I pay for gh lol. You might be surprised if you do your research bro. It is not unrealistic, I can assure you of that. I know about prices and the rules so I'm gonna shut up.

[Mr Ontario]

Sorry if you live in the states or another country maybe.....Canada no! Even if you had a direct connection....shipping cost itself. :puff

[tripleA]

Bad comparison especially when compared the $800 Human GH to your $100.00 Generic...I can you one thing..you sure don't get your GH for a $100.00 so lets be realistic!

Oh I had almost forgot....I knew a guy who got hepatis C. He was all good in health till he started using some type of underground gear.:(

Was he using orals or anything else that can cause additional stress to the liver?

[St]

Bad comparison especially when compared the $800 Human GH to your $100.00 Generic...I can you one thing..you sure don't get your GH for a $100.00 so lets be realistic!

Oh I had almost forgot....I knew a guy who got hepatis C. He was all good in health till he started using some type of underground gear.:(

Shit what ug stuff gave him Hep c i need to know.;)
For me i just like the Kefei stuff,just not in the budget for Human GH or gear.

[Mr Ontario]

No not that mentioned ...he was pretty sure that was the cause based what the doctors said.


Was he using orals or anything else that can cause additional stress to the liver?

[Mr Ontario]

Ya...it was a while ago....so you know what kinda crap was out there back then...if you were in the game then. But I'm sure the undergrounds now are more safer and sterile!
...ya..human grade is expensive at times....but well worth it for me...and my health now as I get older. Not interested in painful shots or the possibility of worrying whether I'm going to get an infection or not. I prefer to be stress free.


Shit what ug stuff gave him Hep c i need to know.;)
For me i just like the Kefei stuff,just not in the budget for Human GH or gear.

[St]

Ya...it was a while ago....so you know what kinda crap was out there back then...if you were in the game then. But I'm sure the undergrounds now are more safer and sterile!
...ya..human grade is expensive at times....but well worth it for me...and my health now as I get older. Not interested in painful shots or the possibility of worrying whether I'm going to get an infection or not. I prefer to be stress free.


Thanks.:friday

[tripleA]

It could also be he should have used a dome, so you can't really say that gear gave him hep.

[pseclint]

LMAO @ $100 GH



I haven't touched human grade ANYTHING in 5 years. Not saying it's not better, but the extra cost doesn't outweigh the benefit in most people's opinions. I compare myself all the time to guys that exclusively take human grade stuff. LOL at them! They think they have superior testosterone to me, my stuff is dirty and dangerous, their 100mg/ml cyp gives them better gains than my 400mg/ml enanthate, heh, they'll figure it out eventually. Their 800 dollar gh is far superior to my 100 dollar gh... I hope it's at least 8 times better. People that say you always get what you pay for are the guys that only buy kraft peanut butter, cuz it's better, cuz its Kraft!

[Rrrrolla]

LOL @ whatever you pay for GH I guess! It is not a far stretch. What the fuk is everyone paying for chinese gh?? (retorical, don't answer that) I don't quite understand what the big deal is, I know I'm not the only guy with a China connection here LOL. I don't pay a hundred anymore, I've got a new guy that treats me good, but it's not far off. I kinda feel sorry you, but then again, kinda not...