Almond oil and Almond butter

[waderow]

Any pros or cons to utilize in a keto diet?

[natenator]

assuming you mean for the shake meals and the "fatty" meat meal?

I can't see why not but I'm not one to deviate from the standard so I really can't say for sure. Maybe P or Ubc can chime in.

[waderow]

oil added to whey

and almond butter as a supplement to meals

[tiramisu]

I have walnut, almond, avacado, olive, and macadamia in my collection at the moment. I would lose my mind if I couldn't change flavours occassionally.

[waderow]

I suppose thats what I am getting at, is the wonderful assortment of taste available in different oils and butters. Just wanted to take advantage

[ironwill]

I suppose thats what I am getting at, is the wonderful assortment of taste available in different oils and butters. Just wanted to take advantage
Olive oil, almond oil, butter etc.....Are all good choices IMO for a keto diet...

[ironwill]

cashews taste great........for a cheat meal.....,For keto....not so much....

[waderow]

nuts and nut butter have carbs, so the oil interests me more.

haha today I took a heaping table spoon of organic pbutter straight from the spoon, and **** near choked myself

[MMASTAR]

my local grocerie store make organic unsweetned chocolate almond butter, it is to die for, i cant keep it around because i will eat the entire jar with a spoon like it was ice cream...

[waderow]

my local grocerie store make organic unsweetned chocolate almond butter, it is to die for, i cant keep it around because i will eat the entire jar with a spoon like it was ice cream...

mmmm whats the brand? how many carbs?

[MMASTAR]

safeway grinds it themselves here.. i dunno how many carbs, probably to much for keto because of the cocoa... just a guess...

[natenator]

cashews taste great........for a cheat meal.....,For keto....not so much....


Really? Why is not good for a keto diet?

[JacktheThriller]

too easy to rack up carbs with cashews and nuts in general

[waderow]

Really? Why is not good for a keto diet?

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3095/2

[natenator]

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3095/2


I can't see that as I'm on my BB but I'll say that P had zero problems with cashews being in my diet. In fact it was one of the options on the plan.

And for the person who said its too easy to consumer carbs with nuts. Its easy to consume carbs with anything which is why you have a plan and follow it.

[waderow]

1oz

P5/C9/F12

could find a hundred different things to eat which would be as satisfying, with P5/F12 and less carbs

[natenator]

How many cashews do you think you'll be eating? The count is 1/3 cup per day in the lean meat (chicken, turkey, tilapia) meal.

Apparently you folks think it's acceptable to go hog wild or something?

Cashews are perfectly acceptable.

[waderow]

1/3 cup weighs how much

[waderow]

and dude... not trying to attack you or your diet plan... just seems there are better choices is all

[natenator]

and dude... not trying to attack you or your diet plan... just seems there are better choices is all
I'm not taking anything as an attack. Just saying if the resident keto expert on his forum (Praetorian) has no issues with them then they are fine. He runs a tight ship with what is and isn't allowed on the diets and for him to specifically say they are acceptable is proof enough to me that they cause no problems.

Do what you want as it does not matter to me but rest assured cashews are PERFECTLY acceptable on a keto diet.

[waderow]

I'm not taking anything as an attack. Just saying if the resident keto expert on his forum (Praetorian) has no issues with them then they are fine. He runs a tight ship with what is and isn't allowed on the diets and for him to specifically say they are acceptable is proof enough to me that they cause no problems.

Do what you want as it does not matter to me but rest assured cashews are PERFECTLY acceptable on a keto diet.

cool. not knocking P, as he deserves much respect, but some of us think for ourselves too

[natenator]

cool. not knocking P, as he deserves much respect, but some of us think for ourselves too
Yeah and some try to reinvent the wheel when the wheel works perfectly fine as is.

Have at'er!

The "thinking" comes from knowing when to manipulate the diet and cardio plans.

Since you are going to be running getting try and find as good fibre supplement. The constant bloated feeling sucks ass as does the gas I find. It's funny, I could eat junk food crap every day for a week and not have ANYWHERE near the bloating or gas issues as I do with keto and I take digestive enzymes and probiotics to try and help aleviate some of those issues :( I hope it works out better for you with less issues in that area otherwise you'll be sleeping alone haha

[waderow]

Yeah and some try to reinvent the wheel when the wheel works perfectly fine as is.

Have at'er!

The "thinking" comes from knowing when to manipulate the diet and cardio plans.

Since you are going to be running getting try and find as good fibre supplement. The constant bloated feeling sucks ass as does the gas I find. It's funny, I could eat junk food crap every day for a week and not have ANYWHERE near the bloating or gas issues as I do with keto and I take digestive enzymes and probiotics to try and help aleviate some of those issues :( I hope it works out better for you with less issues in that area otherwise you'll be sleeping alone haha

hope it wasnt the cashews LOL

taking 100% Pure Psyllium Husk right now

[natenator]

hope it wasnt the cashews LOL

taking 100% Pure Psyllium Husk right now
I suspect it was more the butters with the shakes than the raw nuts but who knows.

All I do know is a pathetic amount of food. High calories but low in quantity of food. 30 seconds and food is done. Good thing the fat keeps the hunger away lol

[waderow]

I suspect it was more the butters with the shakes than the raw nuts but who knows.

All I do know is a pathetic amount of food. High calories but low in quantity of food. 30 seconds and food is done. Good thing the fat keeps the hunger away lol

how many eggs did P have in his diet?

[natenator]

how many eggs did P have in his diet?
had me at 5 whole and 8 white I believe.

[waderow]

usually the eggs take the hunger away pretty good. But I hear you on the other shit not being very satisfying.

[ironwill]

Good luck with the diet Wade........I enjoyed keto when i did it, CC loved it big time.......
Cant wait to see the results big fella...

[waderow]

yesterday was first day.
Had a slight head ache, and felt loopy before bed.
Today is much better.

My training has been shitty though. I have hardly lifted in the last month. Letting shoulders heal, and they are almost all better. Going to be doing a higher volume routine probably starting next week

[natenator]

3-5 days is usually how long that will last it seems. Shit ass feeling though lol

[waderow]

3-5 days is usually how long that will last it seems. Shit ass feeling though lol

thats what I gather. Weird. Havent shit yet either today which is odd. Didnt think it would be that sudden on the regularity. Only took 1/3 dose of psyllium husk yesterday evening, so will be up to fulll dose today

[natenator]

thats what I gather. Weird. Havent shit yet either today which is odd. Didnt think it would be that sudden on the regularity. Only took 1/3 dose of psyllium husk yesterday evening, so will be up to fulll dose today
Xlax is your friend. lol

[ironwill]

yesterday was first day.
Had a slight head ache, and felt loopy before bed.
Today is much better.

My training has been shitty though. I have hardly lifted in the last month. Letting shoulders heal, and they are almost all better. Going to be doing a higher volume routine probably starting next week

Dont go to high volume on keto bro......Im lucky, i never had problems pooping with keto diet..............Benefiber is better than metamuciol in this department IMO.......

[waderow]

Dont go to high volume on keto bro......Im lucky, i never had problems pooping with keto diet..............Benefiber is better than metamuciol in this department IMO.......

will catabolize muscle with high volume on keto?

I meant 12-15 reps by high volume

[ironwill]

High volume and to long of workouts can be catabolic on keto....but it depends on how much volume i suppose...one mans hi volume is another mans medium volume.....
Remember your glycogen stores arent what they are when ingesting carbs.....

[natenator]

for workouts try to find some of P's writings on this and stick to his rep ranges - 6 reps first set, 8 2nd set and 10 on the 3rd.

Workouts max to 75 mins not including cardio. Def don't want high volume or high reps. Remember you want to lift heavy enough to keep the muscles hard.

[waderow]

for workouts try to find some of P's writings on this and stick to his rep ranges - 6 reps first set, 8 2nd set and 10 on the 3rd.

Workouts max to 75 mins not including cardio. Def don't want high volume or high reps. Remember you want to lift heavy enough to keep the muscles hard.

understood

I just wanted to take it easy. This go around for me has seen great results, but I have encountered a fair bit of discomfort in my tendons and joints. Mostly arms and shoulders. Was doing too heavy of lifts where I think I should have done higher volume instead. Close grip pressing 315 killed my elbows. Would sooner have done 20 at 225 versus the 5 at 315 or whatever.

I will lift what I am comfortable with at a 6-8-10 rep range and see how it goes.

[ironwill]

for workouts try to find some of P's writings on this and stick to his rep ranges - 6 reps first set, 8 2nd set and 10 on the 3rd.

Workouts max to 75 mins not including cardio. Def don't want high volume or high reps. Remember you want to lift heavy enough to keep the muscles hard.

^^^werd...Keep the muscles hard, and working so they (muscles) dont adjust to lighter weights and then you could shrink....They customize to what you do to them....Dieting mode is maintaining the muscles you have as much as possible.....Focus on your negatives as much as possible as well during this time...IMO

[waderow]

thanks guys

[ironwill]

Try fleet the day before your show or if ever really bunged up.....LOL....
What is fleet???
Its a douche for your bum, works like crazy...have toilet right beside you when injecting anally.....Good tip i got from a pro....lmao...
Crazy shit, literally.....

[natenator]

In addition to the boatload of digestive shit I was taking along with some "cleanse" products I was also doing exlax once a week and suppositories as well.

This is the ONLY issue I have with a keto diet and what makes less sense is I was probably taking in about 45grams of fiber/day. wtf?

[waderow]

In addition to the boatload of digestive shit I was taking along with some "cleanse" products I was also doing exlax once a week and suppositories as well.

This is the ONLY issue I have with a keto diet and what makes less sense is I was probably taking in about 45grams of fiber/day. wtf?

you should have done the enema