M-1D

[IrishTuner]

Has anyone tried this M-1D stuff before?? I've never
heard of it. It's been sold on the forum here:

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?p=355546#post355546

[flex3d]

They don't even ship to Canada. (anything juiced_porkchop post don't even bother reading it. It has nothing to do with us because his company is blacklisted at Customs and they don't ship to Canada - why he still posts is beyond me.)

The M1D you can find in Canada is garbage and a completely different product then the American M1D.

[Ritch]

^^^ However, you can get the products off other websites if you look around... So be kind to my friend Mr porkchop! Agreed about the Canadian M1D, my spidy senses tell me it`s crap.

[IrishTuner]

glad I asked

[Aaron_37]

First off... the price is ridiculous! Second, it is only guaranteed to do two things:

* Reduces Gyno Or Estrogen Effects due to the estrogen blocker
* Reduces Hair Loss because we block DHT

See a problem with any of the other claims listed?

* May Produce Extreme Gains in Strength and Size
* May Skyrocket Testosterone Levels
* May Increase Muscle Mass
* May Supercharge Male Sex Drive
* May Increase Fat Loss
* May Ramp up Metabolism and Thermogenesis
* May Cause Greater Conversion of Glucose to Energy rather than Fat.
* May Cause Incredible Sense of Power That Comes from a Boost in Testosterone

I may pay you 100% interest if you send me a hundred bucks. Thirdly, how bout this... anybody who can pronounce the ingredients list should order it.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Has anyone tried this M-1D stuff before?? I've never
heard of it. It's been sold on the forum here:

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?p=355546#post355546

I'll word that correctly. It's been advertised by Lg Sciences. CBB doesn't sell anything.

[Memo]

I wish CBB has t-shirt for sale.

[IrishTuner]

I'll word that correctly. It's been advertised by Lg Sciences. CBB doesn't sell anything.


omg.......It's being sold by a company on this forum. I'm pretty sure
everyone knew what I meant. If not....my appologies

[JacktheThriller]

I've tried this b4 the versions were changed. Honestly it didnt do much. I leaned me out a bit in the love handle area giving me the appearance of a better v-taper. But its on the shelves = tame. Stick with anabolics.

[Ritch]

These answers of supps are crap so take steroids are getting annoying.

[JacktheThriller]

May Produce Extreme Gains in Strength and Size
* May Skyrocket Testosterone Levels
* May Increase Muscle Mass
* May Supercharge Male Sex Drive
* May Increase Fat Loss
* May Ramp up Metabolism and Thermogenesis
* May Cause Greater Conversion of Glucose to Energy rather than Fat.
* May Cause Incredible Sense of Power That Comes from a Boost in Testosterone

Ritch if your going to take this product for these reasons the most potent thing you can take is anabolics. For god sakes it what the product the trying to serve an alternative to. Honestly nothing legal will ever compare to anabolics, so people might as well just take anabolics.

[Ritch]

When talking about this product in particular, for sure, anabolics are better. I can`t help but be on the fence. This summer is my last trial of the new wave of supplements. If what I have planned dosen`t deliver, then **** it... I may have to put my ideals aside.

What shits me the most with gear is the hair loss issues. I`d look like a complete tool with a shaved head so that `s not an option for me. Proscar makes me feel like shit, and I hate to pin as I`m sure you all know...

[#8]

^^what is your new summer stack going to consist of? im curious.

[Ritch]

^^what is your new summer stack going to consist of? im curious.

I`d almost rather wait until it`s done. If it works, I will appear smart. If it dosen`t then I just keep my mouth shut, lol. But the whole plan started around mid december, not supplement wise, but diet wise to prime my body for the supps I was planing on starting this week. Not sure exactly in which order I`m going to run the stuff, it`s more of a general idea. Got time for a long story?

[#8]

yes

[Ritch]

Ok...

I started planning this around the holidays as I had just gotten too fat. Like many, the last 10 lbs of the bulking diet made me look like shit. But I wanted to keep my weight over 220 (I had gotten to 232) for a year to see if I could "reset" my genetic ability to hold a "heavier me".

So 3 weeks before Christmas, I decided to start dieting. I`d lost an easy 10 lbs ( by simply cutting carbs from my last 2 meals) and looked much better. Then work got the best of me as I was called in countless times on the spot with no food prepared and that went on for 3 weeks. I had shakes, but still... Not the end of the world but still not conductive to what I was trying to do. From mid jan until last Sunday I was priming myself for what I`m doing now. An 8 week bulking cycle. From mid jan to mid feb I`d attained what I was looking for. I`d gotten very lean, abs showing nicely, lower stomach nice and flat and my belt now being in the last available hole... The last 2 weeks I kept dieting to further create an effective rebound period that is so far working very well. Been bulking since Sunday and I`ve filled out and already gained strength.

Here`s why, and you`re all going to say I`m a ****ing idiot, but I don`t care. Monday was the start of a 3 week M1T cycle I`m doing. I did the 2 week preload of milk thistle and hawthorn berrie extracts as it`s always recommended and am still using the berrie extract to keep the blood pressure under control. Post cycle I have nolva and aromasin, so I have my baisis covered and then some.

During pct I will add clen for about 4 weeks, then will go off for 4 weeks before going back on as I will start dieting again in may. I may stay off the clen longer, not sure yet. Anyway, during pct to keep intensity up in the gym, I will be using NO Shotgun. But I really spike that shit up. I add extra l-tyrosine, DMAE and will be adding the ingredient that makes red bull work ( glucoronolactone) the stuff is insanely cheap as I got 200 grams ( the equivalent of 333 cans of red bull) for about $14. Pre workout I always take ephedrine, even with clen and 200mg of caffeine. Last time I did M1T I did something similar but didn`t have the glucoronolactone, dmae or aromasin, so this can only be better. After my last M1T cycle, I had even gained another 2-3 lbs after the cycle, kept the strength and stayed very lean. Was about 215lbs. But my weight at 210, looks more like 220... That`s what people tell me, bodybuilders, not family members or non bodybuilder friends... Oh yeah, I got some DHEA I plan on using as a transermal, and tribulus powder on the way to use during pct. I may use them off and on during the summer as well.

Gonna use 30 grams of bcaa`s intra workout and 25 grams post workout on training days. Even after pct I will continue the bcaa dosing as I will be dieting 5 weeks after the M1T is over. When the nolva and aromasin are done, (going to run the aromasin 2 weeks longer than the nolva) I`m faced with the choice of new supps I plan on trying and by then it will be mid may about. Before starting the supps I`m thinking a few weeks off any estrogen controling supps would be a good idea, so it may even be the month of june by the time I start them.

Here`s the stuff I plan on using this summer:

gasparie novadex, I have 2 bottles (gotta make the shipping worth while...)
1 bottle of lg T 9-11 (somebody other than a sponsor has to try it here...)
And the one I`ve been waiting and have heard tons of good feedback is topical formestane by CEL. Ideally I will be getting more formestane as I only have a one month supply. But that`s a 1 month supply at max dose of 200mg a day. But with the novadex, t-911 and formestane, it`s still over 4 months worth of supps. And since a period ( logically ) would be taken off between them you could easily say that`s 5-6 months worth of test boosting estrogen reducing supps.

And as you may have read bulk 6 OXO and 11OXO may become available soon (gonna ask the guy tonight or tommorow if it`s going to happen) and plan on using them as transdermals. So it`s tough to know what supps I will be running and when. The novadex will probably wait the longest as I`ve tried that already, and transdermal test boosters have cought my interest as of late.

Will be using yohimbe in my fat burning stack this summer. Just found a place that sells HMB in bulk and can get 1kg of it for $100 US. That means I could use 10 grams a day over 3 months. I`ve always wanted to mega dose the stuff and have read some good reviews lately.

I`ve never tried CLA and can get 1000 caps very cheap and plan on using at least 6 grams a day. At 6 grams a day, the 1000 caps would last 166 days, insanely cheap for the price I can get them at.

Got some vanadyl sulftate I will be using on my carb meals as well this summer.

I will have another 21 last caps of M1T left after this cycle and am wondering about using is during a time when I`m cutting this summer. Not so sure it`s a good idea as some claim to feel hypo on it, and if I`m low carb, that could mean trouble.

So the crazy ass summer stack when I`m done the M1T cycle I will look like:

No shotgun ( may use it for the rest of my life...)
BCAA`s intra and post workout ( 1kg a month is needed )
mega dose HMB
mega dose CLA
2.4 grams of DHA per day
vanadyl sulfate (not sure of the dose yet)
creatine (obviously)
greens powder
multi vitamin ( most likely TS formula )
glucosamine
msm
cissus powder
grape seed extract (20 times more powerfull than vit c in terms of antioxidant properties)
transermal 6OXO or 11oxo, after trying them both may choose to combine them both
transdermal DHEA
tribulus powder ( will most likely drink it as a tea)
taurine
ghenerate by lg

Any questions, lol?

Hope I didn`t forget anything...

[wan2lrn]

I would be interested in the results of this science project so keep us posted. Just one question for now. What is the glucoronolactone used for? Is it just a stimulant or does it aid in fat burning?

[JacktheThriller]

how are you going to control for synergistic effects. How do you know if its the products themselves or the products together? If it work you may take it again and some products may have been of little to no use.

[jamex]

I love a good science experiment. Document the shit out of this and it could be fun. I like to hear about the subtleties like "i think x substance is making me feel this" and "x substance has really gimped my junk...its like playing with playdoh down there". :lick

[Ritch]

the glucoronolactone is a pre workout energy supp. I don`t know of any fat burning properties associated with GE (glucoronolactone) I`m not going to spell that word every time... I`m telling you, GE is what gives red bull the kick it does. Other than GE all, red bull has is taurine which is not a stimulant unlike what the tools that make redbull call it, a mere 80mg of caffeine, which is nothing, and some low dosed b-vitmins. Besides I take all those ingredients in my day anyway, lol...

To know which ingredient is working well mostly everything listed up there, I`ve already tried. And the stuff like formestane, 6OXO will be used on their own, so it will be easy to know what`s doing what. And those are the one`s you really want to know which does what as they`re the most expensive.

I already know what to expect from adding dmae to the NO Shotgun. But I`ll start with just that for a week or so before adding GE. Of course if I start HMB and CLA together, I won`t know which one is working. And these are supps, not drugs, so I`m guessing it can take up to 8 weeks or longer to notice anything, if anything... But since I`m looking for impressive results I may just start with both of them. So maybe I won`t get to answer the question of which one works and dosen`t but since they`re not all that expensive, it`s not big deal.

I just remembered to add Ghenerate by lg sciences in my stack as I`ve been using it since mid january. No comment yet, as it`s not one of those overnight supps that will make you huge. In case anyone wonders why the hell I`m so interested in DHEA is because I`m 33 now, and consider this the first of HRT hormones I`ll be taking before moving on to other stuff as I get older.

The DHEA is to increase the effect of the ghenerate. There`s a doctor on superhuman radio who has bloodwork showing the peptides working much better in male patients. So obviously you can see how using dhea can relate to inceasing the effect of the ghenerate.

Anyway, so far I`ve gained about 12 lbs, strength up 20 lbs on incline bench, bent over supinated rows and deadlift for the same amount of reps and it`s only been 5 days. But I was very depleted when I started on Sunday, so I`m not making the retarded claim that I gained 12 lbs of acutal muscle. We all know only the bowflex can do that...

[fourarms]

Ritch, why not just use test? Kidding man, look forward to hearing your results. Curious about the proscar, you said it made you feel shitty. How so, you mean it affected libido or lethargic or what? Were you running 1/4 tab?

[Ritch]

Ritch, why not just use test? Kidding man, look forward to hearing your results. Curious about the proscar, you said it made you feel shitty. How so, you mean it affected libido or lethargic or what? Were you running 1/4 tab?

The most common effect I`ve read for proscar is the feeling like shit, not feeling like ****ing symptoms. I wasen`t even horny on the 20 week cycle I did and took a long time for my libido to come back after. Sure I can get my dick hard, but going out and getting some was about as appealing as doing volunteer work. Sure you know it should be done, but meh...