tren cough

[gingerbreadman]

JusT Wanted to share this - my expreience with tren acetate.

Inj # 1 of 1mg tren acetate and 250mg tren E. SAMooooth as silk. This morning, two days later in the other glute I do the same injection. Within 1 minute I have this sudden urge to cough, mildly. WIthin another minute it's uncontollable and the nautiousness took over and I was kneeled over the toilet. Never did barf but took at least 15 minutes before tho coughing and nautionsness reduced (but lingered slightly for another 40 minutes or so.

That's coommon I assume? Pretty funnly looking bank on it.

[KoN]

Well, the body responds to it like a poisonous substance, so that is common. I'd reduce the dosage (maybe drop the E, seems pointless if you're using A). Side effects tend to worsen with higher dosages.

[tiramisu]

... ummmm, cough, ummm Bullshit.

You nicked a vein. It happens. Not all that common but it happens. Most of us have had the experience a few times. When the BA/BB get in the blood stream it has a pretty dramatic effect but it's not a real problem.

Make sure you are rotating injection sites regularily.

[#8]

how can you inject 1mg of something? is that a typo? did you mean 1ml?

[gingerbreadman]

cool thanks. BUT I've done 99% of my injections in the glutes including these with probably 38 weeks of cycles time in the past - never this side effect. 1st time with tren A though. I heard a mod post once tren cough after injection is enevitable.....did I really nick a vein for the 1st time in 38 weeks or nearly 200 injections?

[gingerbreadman]

how can you inject 1mg of something? is that a typo? did you mean 1ml?

oh geez ya - meant 1cc at 100mg/ml sorray 'bout that

[tiramisu]

cool thanks. BUT I've done 99% of my injections in the glutes including these with probably 38 weeks of cycles time in the past - never this side effect. 1st time with tren A though. I heard a mod post once tren cough after injection is enevitable.....did I really nick a vein for the 1st time in 38 weeks or nearly 200 injections?

Yes you really nicked a vein. so called tren cough can happen from any injectible with a fair amount of solvents in it. Unlike low dose test e that doesn't need much of anything tren is often mixed as high as 5% BA, 20% BB by UGLS that want to make sure that the gear will not crash not matter how it is handled. Personally I find 2% and 10-15% far more pleasant but I'm not a UGL.

Rotate your injection sites. or alternately be prepared for this to happen more frequently, for scar tissue to build up and inevitably for your first abscess.

[vakker]

... ummmm, cough, ummm Bullshit.

You nicked a vein. It happens. Not all that common but it happens. Most of us have had the experience a few times. When the BA/BB get in the blood stream it has a pretty dramatic effect but it's not a real problem.

Make sure you are rotating injection sites regularily.

some of your new posts are asinine.

tren cough is real.

[gingerbreadman]

Yes you really nicked a vein. so called tren cough can happen from any injectible with a fair amount of solvents in it. Unlike low dose test e that doesn't need much of anything tren is often mixed as high as 5% BA, 20% BB by UGLS that want to make sure that the gear will not crash not matter how it is handled. Personally I find 2% and 10-15% far more pleasant but I'm not a UGL.

Rotate your injection sites. or alternately be prepared for this to happen more frequently, for scar tissue to build up and inevitably for your first abscess.

OK thanks tiramisu, that's a good explanation.

[tiramisu]

some of your new posts are asinine.

tren cough is real.

Absolutely tren cough is real, I've been bent over coughing till I couldn't breathe on several occasions. It is the BA/BB in the tren hitting the blood stream and the lungs. You can also taste it in the back of your mouth.

Any of the high solvent drugs have this exact same effect and just as simply the low solvent drugs do not. How do I come to this wonderful conclusion? Well I make my own from powder and then I inject them.

The results are extremely consistent. If you like you can skip the tren and just inject BA/BB into a vein and get exactly the same result if you'ld like to test this.

[gingerbreadman]

I've heard of both scenarios nicking a vein and some claiming tren cough is inevitable - I just experirnced my first and looking back it was kinda funny - WOW powerful shit!

[vakker]

Absolutely tren cough is real, I've been bent over coughing till I couldn't breathe on several occasions. It is the BA/BB in the tren hitting the blood stream and the lungs. You can also taste it in the back of your mouth.

Any of the high solvent drugs have this exact same effect and just as simply the low solvent drugs do not. How do I come to this wonderful conclusion? Well I make my own from powder and then I inject them.

The results are extremely consistent. If you like you can skip the tren and just inject BA/BB into a vein and get exactly the same result if you'ld like to test this.

I actually understand what you are saying. but starting a reply to a thread with "ummm cough ummm bullshit" isnt the best way to get your point across. This post was 100% better.

[kloan]

cool thanks. BUT I've done 99% of my injections in the glutes including these with probably 38 weeks of cycles time in the past - never this side effect. 1st time with tren A though. I heard a mod post once tren cough after injection is enevitable.....did I really nick a vein for the 1st time in 38 weeks or nearly 200 injections?

Hey dude, just as a heads up... you might want to start using additional injection sites. I too was only shooting my glutes, with no problems at all. But recently I began having problems pushing the oil in, there was a lot of resistance. Then I started having bad shot after bad shot. 3 shots in a row I was coughing my lungs out, felt dizzy, sweated like a fat bastard and just felt like shit (tasted in the back of my throat as well).

I think something happens with nicking veins, scar tissue, etc from the many shots and eventually it causes some **** ups I'm still not totally sure exactly what they are. Tissue isn't healed completely by next shot and some of the oil gets into the bloodstream basically, or something like that.

All I know is those fits suck ass and are not at all something I want to experience every time I inject, so I introduced delt shots, and I might try quads as well.

Something to consider.

[tiramisu]

My response of bullshit was to this

" Well, the body responds to it like a poisonous substance, so that is common. I'd reduce the dosage (maybe drop the E, seems pointless if you're using A). Side effects tend to worsen with higher dosages. "

Which is a completely uninformed piece of bullshit made up by a person who has no ****ing clue but still posted it. The body does not respond to tren like a poisonous substance, it (tren cough) is not common, reducing dosage would have no impact on (tren cough).

[kloan]

^^yeah when i read that my thoughts were "bullshit" as well. it's more likely because of it's chemical structure allowing it to pass into the bloodstream easier than other compounds and because of the BA/BB than it is because it's "a poison".

i'm still talking out my ass because i'm not a scientist and i don't know the reason why, but at least my explanation sounds more logical. maybe what he meant was the physical reaction from when it happens is because it is kinda like a poison and that's why the body responds the way it does? i mean, if you get certain substances into your bloodstream that aren't supposed to be there, the body is going to react, isn't it? it's just like getting nicotine into your bloodstream, it causes certain physical reactions, and as we all know nicotine is considered a poison. anyway, maybe he meant it's not because it's a 'poison' that tren cough happens, but that the effects of tren cough itself is a result of the body's way of reacting to a foreign substance. duhh.... im rambling.... caffeine is kicking in.. time for a workout.

nicked vein and scar tissue is probably the most likely scenario, though do people who experience 'tren cough' experience it with every single shot, regardless of where they shoot it?

[tiramisu]

Big sigh. I am aware of NO people who experience a reaction, tren cough, with every shot of tren regardless of where they shoot it in any of my reading on any board.

[kloan]

Big sigh. I am aware of NO people who experience a reaction, tren cough, with every shot of tren regardless of where they shoot it in any of my reading on any board.

well then there ya go... luck of the draw, as it were.

[gingerbreadman]

Big sigh. I am aware of NO people who experience a reaction, tren cough, with every shot of tren regardless of where they shoot it in any of my reading on any board.

well, here's a quote from another canadian BB site posted by a veteran pro BB'r and super mod

A very very small amount of gear gets into the blood stream and hits the lungs causing you to cough, or if it's tren acetate then it will happen for most shots no matter what. No matter what though the cough will subside fairly quickly and you'll be fine.

[tiramisu]

I'm just going to add you to my ignore list and wish you the best in your future endeavors.

Good luck.

[St]

Ya freaky stuff,i had it happen,and i know of many people that stopped tren for good,since the tren cough freaked them out.At the start i was like bs,but there is a Nurse on another board that said the Lungs spasm,so i will try to get the link,on the medical term for ya..

[gingerbreadman]

I'm just going to add you to my ignore list and wish you the best in your future endeavors.

Good luck.


Sounds good I've heard an equal level of sarcasm from a 12 year old in some of your comments.

[gingerbreadman]

Ya freaky stuff,i had it happen,and i know of many people that stopped tren for good,since the tren cough freaked them out.At the start i was like bs,but there is a Nurse on another board that said the Lungs spasm,so i will try to get the link,on the medical term for ya..


Thanks St think I may know who you're talking about - found some interesting threds & theories. Nobody actually claimed a absolute reason. The poll seems to be split between nicking a vein to it happening everytime with tren and being caused by the acetate ester or more sides coming from tren derived from cattle pellets. Of course everyone is different. I started this thread just sharing my experience when it happened first time. It was quite surprising and a bit violent & kinda made me laugh afterwards because I had heard others speak of it before. Here's one quote from another board that pretty much described my experience


Tren cough issomething you can feel comming on as soon as you pull the pin out. For me, it takes about a minute to get into full bore. It kinda feels like when you inhale water and you really have no choice but to cough violently until your lungs are clear. It lasts just a minute or two and leaves about as fast as it cmoes on. I've had the cough with NPP as well. I don't believe it has anything to do with the ester. I think you break a vein with your shot and your tren gets into your vascular system, it binds to some type of receptors in your lungs and gives you that tight chest feeling. I think I remember Lunkhead explaining it something like that.


also


The cough reflex comes from your larnx/ voice box, and is a guard against aspiration of fluid and food. The Fina cough is probably triggered in the cns.

Anyway as I stated earlier, the taste and smell of tren is the acetate. As for the cough, It is definitely not caused by the steroid hormone itself as steroid hormones do not cause coughing fits, It must by another chemical in the mix - possibly either the acetate, or the Ba or maybe the methyl cellulose. We can only speculate.



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It can't be the BA, as the small amount of ML in a single 10 ml vial (0.5 ml at max) is not in sufficient quantity. Even so, i've never heard of BA being an CNS or PNS stimulant. The amount of BA/BB % in other AAS are in the same percentile as tren is as well. UNLESS if it does affect somehow, there must be a major amount (we're talkign 10% BA here) of the stuff in a mix. But who the hell injects a compound with 10% BA to begin with?!

No its definitely something else. People have said the acetate ester causes it, but has anybody else used an acetate AAS before other than tren which has caused the same experience?

My guess is something within the solution is seeping into the capillary beds of the muscle fascia, and whatever is in tren itself (does anybody know the molecular breakdown?) is triggering a synaptic reponse at the lungs when the blood is being oxygenated, which sends an action potential to the brain and causes the coughing reflex at the larynx.

Or maybe when the alveolar ducts release CO2 something in the tren is mixing with it (from venous system) and its aggravating the trachea.





I find that the deeper the injection sometimes plays a factor in whether you'll get a cough or not.




I think the cough is from the binders from converted pellets, I use UG premade fina which is (suppsedly) made from powder and I get no cough from this version.

[KoN]

Its hilarious how often so-called 'gurus' will ignore common sense. A foreign toxic powerful chemical in your body might cause your body to try to expel it from the lungs? why never that sounds ridiculous!!

I wonder why this substance isnt used in medicine hmm it must have nothing to do reactions such as coughing lol

You're obviously just misconstruing my post in order to get upset and flame me. Does it make you mad when your internet opinion is challenged tirimisu? i know you are a very important man here and i am just a little 80 post faggot but tell em why you mad son

[L3]

15mls of tren A later, never coughed once, and i've pinned it EVERYwhere

[tiramisu]

I'm not angry I just get tired of aggressively stupid. After a while it's easier to simply ignore the noise and move on.

If you choose to believe that a hormone, trenbolone, injected intramuscularily is magically causing lung inflammation and a taste in the back of your mouth without nicking your vein and that it is not the solvents that are causing this lovely effect you go right ahead. I truly don't give a shit.

[KoN]

Do you feel that it's likely this person is using trenbolone without ingesting the solvents?

[Kilburn]

i was getting the cough from TnT. not fun... made me dread pinning even more.

[gingerbreadman]

For the information of anyone reading this thread and no doubt to the overwhelming joy of Tiramisu, did 1cc of tren acetate in my shoulder this AM.........No cough, nothing. In the past I've done 95% of my shots in upper glutes and yes they were getting scar tissue, the pin was "crunching" hitting scar tissue on the way in. The "nicked a vein theory" just gained some momentum.......

[oldcanada]

15mls of tren A later, never coughed once, and i've pinned it EVERYwhere

I have made gallons of tren home brew, and used about the same amount.
I get the Tren cough almost everytime, it's not a big deal, but it's real.
It's from the tren acc and BA/BB. I don't know why, but it is a fact. If your tren Acc is real at least 75mg/ml you will get the cough. If you have done 15ml of tren acc and still not one time did you get the cough, you proud owner fakes...

Tren cough is real, not the end of the world, don't be a pussy, catch your breath and train even harder.

[oldcanada]

I'm not angry I just get tired of aggressively stupid. After a while it's easier to simply ignore the noise and move on.

If you choose to believe that a hormone, trenbolone, injected intramuscularily is magically causing lung inflammation and a taste in the back of your mouth without nicking your vein and that it is not the solvents that are causing this lovely effect you go right ahead. I truly don't give a shit.


It may not be a vein but maybe a small vessel, it is for sure getting to yout lungs right away, in many cases, it may be a vein, weather you pass through one and the tren leaks into it or just the simple absobtion. I get a slight cough almost everytime, and some times its bad....I like it.

[oldcanada]

Well, the body responds to it like a poisonous substance, so that is common. I'd reduce the dosage (maybe drop the E, seems pointless if you're using A). Side effects tend to worsen with higher dosages.


WTF??? where did you get this info???

???drop the E as its pointless with A???? test and tren are what you want as a tren stack......????? all I can say is WTF???

[L3]

If you have done 15ml of tren acc and still not one time did you get the cough, you proud owner fakes...


yeah man, its not working..... at all....pfff

sounds like you should leave brewing to the "professionals"...only a toolcase would keep pinning hommade junk if it caused a near death experience every time :mock

[1488]

T

[Rrrrolla]

I have made gallons of tren home brew, and used about the same amount.
I get the Tren cough almost everytime, it's not a big deal, but it's real.
It's from the tren acc and BA/BB. I don't know why, but it is a fact. If your tren Acc is real at least 75mg/ml you will get the cough. If you have done 15ml of tren acc and still not one time did you get the cough, you proud owner fakes...

Tren cough is real, not the end of the world, don't be a pussy, catch your breath and train even harder.



I get it about 1 in every 30 shots, so he has 15 more shots to prove it is real or not. :)

It is completely random for me, as is logical, cause you never know when you are going to put some of that golden goodness in your vascular system by accident.

[Big D]

T explained it all. no reason to argue with the man. hes absolutely right.

[dremen]

I've ran mostly tren-ace, but enen as well and not once have I ever had the tren cough and can honestly say im thankful for that.....lol

Used from 4-5 different labs and all of it was the real deal.

[Victor85]

I have experience this phenemenom too. Mostly it happens when I inject closer to the lungs, such as delts.

I get a crazy coughing fit that I cant get rid off, even if I consume cups and cups of water. It only lasts for 15 mins but I do get a taste in the back of my mouth. Its very rare though.