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White-Tiger
17-02-2010, 04:25 PM
Hey boys/gals...

If you've read some of my previous threads, I will be undergoing a little body reshaping experiment where I will run a 10 week cutting cycle followed immediately by a 10 week bulking cycle then a proper Power PCT using HCG Nolva and Clomid.

Tentative cycle looks a little like this:
Weeks 1-10
--Test E 250 or 375mg per week
--T3 with a proper up/down ramp, max dose 125mcg/day.

Weeks 11-20
--Test E 500mg per week
--Tren E 300mg per week

Then wait 2 weeks and commence Power PCT.

My question is:
Given my current financial situation (a little strapped), I was wondering what is the lowest dose of Test E I can get away with during those first 10 weeks of cutting. I would like run only 250 per week...do you guys think that is enough to counteract the catabolic effects of T3 on muscle? As running less during the initial 10 weeks means I can pump more $$ into the following 10 for the actual bulk ;)

EDIT:
For those wondering, during the initial 10 weeks of cutting I will be running a Ketogenic Diet (Palumbo) in hopes of retaining as much muscle mass as possible. Will be doing AM fasted slow cardio ED for 1h.

Also...I have an old unopened 20cc vial of Bold Cyp (150mg/cc) that is about to expire sitting around. I was toying with the idea of using it in my 10 weeks cutter at 300mg per week to finish it off. I guess another option for the first ten weeks would be getting a bottle of T400 and using it with Bold Cyp. Would give 400mg Test, 300mg BoldCyp during first ten weeks. Would only cost pennies more...but would kind of blunt the progression in doses from first 10 weeks to last 10 weeks. Any ideas?

gustavo77
17-02-2010, 05:19 PM
IMO, you do not need anymore than 150-200mg of test per week to blunt the effects of t-3 on muscle tissue...this is of course only if your diet is on point. But i am assuming that you have that down right??

400mg of test with 300mg of EQ would be fine but is not necessarily needed. 250mg of test and 300mg of EQ per week would work well also. The EQ would provide the added benefit of a higher increase RBC (test does this as well but not to the same degree as EQ), this increase in RBC will definitely help you with stamina/cardio and in time, conditioning. You should have no problems transitioning into the bulking portion either. The tren and additional test will definitely give you the boost you need to grow.

In the end it is up to you. You have a number of decent choices, it just boils down to what you want to do.

Timbo89
17-02-2010, 07:52 PM
ive used just 250mg of test/week while using t3 and found that it worked well. If you could use less i dont know personally.

White-Tiger
17-02-2010, 08:46 PM
Good to know 250mg Test E per week is ample to combat T3 mediated catabolism.
I will be going that route I believe.

Thanks for the replies!

White-Tiger
17-02-2010, 09:25 PM
Thanks for that warning cch,

And no, I haven't used T3 before, this will be my first cutting cycle using the compound. Hence I will be using a rather slow ramp-up to make sure the sides do not get out of control. However, the plan is to get up to 125mcg, if I find the sides too bothersome at a lower dose I will obviously stop there...

I don't know about T3, but I find I am rather resistant to most stimulants. I get no sides what-so-ever from 4-5 doses of ECA per day (24mg E, 200mg C, 81mg A). Clen I've never had ANY side effects...

nitrous
18-02-2010, 11:14 AM
ya from what i have heard 50mcg's is an average dosage of t3

daande
19-02-2010, 12:07 PM
I have used T3 up to 75mcg but it was a slow ramp up. It took 4 weeks or so to hit 75mcg and each bump up was only 12.5mcg.