Cycle advice

[Rhinobolt10]

I was originally going to run some test and EQ... but after some thought, I'm going to nix that plan.

New plan
weeks 1-7 test @ 750mg-1g
weeks 8-16 test prop .5g/wk
8-16 masteron .3g/wk

Then I was going to finish up with some test suspension for 5 weeks or so...

A couple questions
1. is that high enough doses for weeks 8-16? if I'm going to go higher, just because of my source, I'd pretty much be purchasing twice the amount...
2. This is going to be my first run with the prop ester... and it's going to suck.. I was thinking of doing some straight b12 shots in the quoads before hand to get ready for it... does this sound like a good idea?

I'm pretty much set with these compounds... the only things I may add is some oral winstrol somewhere on weeks 8-16, and maybe a dbol kickstart in the first 7 weeks....

thanks in advance

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Stats? How many cycles have you done?

[JonnyO]

Thats kind of an odd cycle to me. What made you decide to run the test this way and what made you decide to use the Masteron the 2nd half of the cycle?

[Rhinobolt10]

Stats? How many cycles have you done?

I'm not going to say I've lost track of how many cycle I've done... but.. well I did...
I've run just about everything, a gram of test, high dose tren... don't get hit by sides very hard... Never anything short estered though... Just never really wanted to get into that... but now it sounds like a good idea.

I'm 220-230, lots of experience in the gym, above average strength, some bodyfat... I also like candle lit dinners, and long walks on the beach...

[Rhinobolt10]

Thats kind of an odd cycle to me. What made you decide to run the test this way and what made you decide to use the Masteron the 2nd half of the cycle?

I guess I'm kinda going from a bit of a bulker leading into summer, then going right into a a bit of a cutter, but with more emphasis on increasing strength without too much of a gain in mass.

I added in the masteron, just because I've tried the long estered version of mast, and I've heard guys rave about it... and just wanted to give the shorter ester version a go, and thought this would be a good time.

[bigdaddydrew123]

I guess I'm kinda going from a bit of a bulker leading into summer, then going right into a a bit of a cutter, but with more emphasis on increasing strength without too much of a gain in mass.

I added in the masteron, just because I've tried the long estered version of mast, and I've heard guys rave about it... and just wanted to give the shorter ester version a go, and thought this would be a good time.

you dont have to change the test ester to cut. just diet change to cut.just lower your carbs drink lots of water. you will get leaner that way and drop water . id run the same ester the whole way lower the dose if you are too bloated from high dose.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Meh, I think it'd work.

[Rhinobolt10]

you dont have to change the test ester to cut. just diet change to cut.just lower your carbs drink lots of water. you will get leaner that way and drop water . id run the same ester the whole way lower the dose if you are too bloated from high dose.

I would agree with you,... but I've never ran a short estered cycle before and now seems like a good time to line one up. I have various reasons, but one of them is just the experience of doing it. I think it's going to be kinda scarey... but hopefully with some heating pads, hot showers and ibuprofen I'll make it through the whole thing ok.

[Rhinobolt10]

Meh, I think it'd work.

I think it will work too... at least i hope so...

At this point I'm really only worried about the shots... I'm thinking to stick with glutes,.. probably gonna have to give delts a go... then I think I'd rather shoot a hip than my quad...

I think I'll just take it nice and slow... and make sure I'm putting in small amounts the first week, maybe shoot ED, then move to eod if that goes alright... mostly just because of the volume of the shots in virgin muscles...

Clearly I'll be doing a little more reading on shots, needle length, and avoiding big swollen lumps...

Thanks man

[bigdaddydrew123]

my question is why drop the test e when its just getting into your system nicely

[Rhinobolt10]

my question is why drop the test e when its just getting into your system nicely

I'm on a low dose test right now, just cruising until I could plan this out...

The biggest reason I'm dropping the long estered test is something I'm going to have to keep to myself for various reasons... and this is a somewhat public forum...

I know I'm asking for advice and not giving all the info is pretty ridiculous... but just try to trust me... It's all part of the plan...

[bigdaddydrew123]

I'm on a low dose test right now, just cruising until I could plan this out...

The biggest reason I'm dropping the long estered test is something I'm going to have to keep to myself for various reasons... and this is a somewhat public forum...

I know I'm asking for advice and not giving all the info is pretty ridiculous... but just try to trust me... It's all part of the plan...
gotcha , good luck .