what do you think of this multi?

[Ritch]

Looks good to me, the magnesium and zinc are chelated, has a nice high dosoe of vit C and E, high doses of b vitamins... I`m not so sure I need to take this as I already take 1 gram of vitamin C, 3 times a day, a b-complex 50mcg twice a day, 400iu`s of vit E, 400mg of chelated magnesium and 30mg of chelated zinc.

Nutrients
Serving Size: 9 tablets
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:
Rose Hips Powder 20.0 mg

Iron (Amino Acid Chelate) 500.0 mg

Manganese (Amino Acid Chelate) 10.0 mg

Zinc (Amino Acid Chelate) 22.5 mg

Cryptoxanthin 92.0 mcg

Choline (Bitartrate) 100.0 mg

100.0 mg

Chromium (as Chromium Polynicotinate) 200.0 mcg

Copper (Amino Acid Chelate) 3.0 mg

Magnesium (Amino Acid Chelate) 500.0 mg

Potassium (Amino Acid Chelate) 95.0 mg

Vitamin A (as Beta-Carotene) (12000 mcg) 20000.0 IU

Zeaxnthin 76.0 mcg

Acerola Cherry 10.0 mg

Selenium (as Selenomethionine) 70.0 mcg

Calcium (Amino Acid Chelate and Calcium Ascorbate) 1000.0 mg

Vitamin E (as Natural D-Alpha) 400.0 IU

Folic Acid 400.0 mcg

Vitamin D-3 400.0 IU

Iodine (as Kelp) 150.0 mcg

Pantothenic Acid 100.0 mg

Vitamin B12 100.0 mcg

Riboflavin 100.0 mg

Biotin 300.0 mcg

Thiamine 100.0 mg

Hesperidin 20.0 mg

Glutamic Acid 100.0 mg

Vitamin B6 100.0 mg

Lutein 59.0 mcg

Rutin 50.0 mg

Alpha Carotene 378.0 mcg

Vitamin C (as Calcium Ascorbate) 1500.0 mg

Para-Amino Benzoic Acid 100.0 mg

Niacin (as Niacinamide) 100.0 mg

Inositol 100.0 mg


I`ve always had my ideals on the timming of certain vitamins (magnesium and zinc taken before bed with vit E) I`d still get those in before bed, but just not in the same doses... When taking a multi I`d most likely take the 9 caps in 3 split doses to keep the vit C in a steady supply in the blood stream. Thoughts?

[#8]

9 multivitamins a day? am i reading that correctly?

[Ritch]

Yes, 9 pills to get everything listed there, it`s a 30 day supply. So 3 pills, 3 times a day to get steady blood levels. Logical, yes?

[IrishTuner]

I just bought a 30 day supply of "Cygen Laboratories MultiPack"
and it has only a fraction of each of your listed vitamins.

eg.

vitamin C....... 500mg
vitamin B12.... .1mg
Manganese..... .5 mg
Chromium....... .2mcg
Iron.............. 15mg

I have no idea what to take in a day, Is mine even close to enough??
I paid $35 for my month supply.
What did you pay Ritch? and what brand?

[IrishTuner]

Oh wait there are a few that have the same amounts:

Vitamin B6.....100mg
Thiamine.......100mg
Riboflavin......100mg


I only take 1 pack a day consisting of 6 pills

[PdH]

Yes, 9 pills to get everything listed there, it`s a 30 day supply. So 3 pills, 3 times a day to get steady blood levels. Logical, yes?

Seems like overkill to me Ritch. I don't think your body can utilize that much each day.

[Ritch]

Yikes, you got served for that price... The one I`m looking at is from ultmate nutrition and only costs $14 US for a month supply!

Vitamine C, idealy should be taken at 1 gram, 3 times a day. This is mostly to control cortisol levels.

The b 12 is yours is low, unless it`s in liquid form that amount is alright, but my b complex caps have 50mg of b-12, why yours only has 1mg, I have no clue...

Stuff like maganese and iron, I don`t really know the ideal recommendations for them. Your chromium is also very low. Unless .2 means 200mcg then it`s fine. A reason for taking the multi is just that and other stuff like copper, calcium, and the carotene`s I don`t get from any given sources. So the multi is more of an insurance thing...

[Ritch]

Seems like overkill to me Ritch. I don't think your body can utilize that much each day.

Still a hell of a lot less than what you find in the "infamous" animal pack, lol... But dose wise, I`d still add extra vit C to each serving to get 1 gram of vitamin C. I actually like the idea of having some b vitamins 3 times a day, and 33mg seems like a fair dose. If it`s too much, I`ll just piss it out. But the magnesium, zinc, vitamin E and chromium doses are spot on.

In the end, I`m thinking of the multi to get the stuff I don`t get from taking vit c, E, b complex, magnesium and zinc. Which is more than a few vitamins it seems. But the value of this formula is attractive... Also I`ve often said that what I take is all you need, but the vets all say multi... So maybe I was wrong, and a multi is better, which is why I`m seeking opinions. Yours appreciated as well.

[IrishTuner]

Yikes, you got served for that price... The one I`m looking at is from ultmate nutrition and only costs $14 US for a month supply!

Vitamine C, idealy should be taken at 1 gram, 3 times a day. This is mostly to control cortisol levels.

The b 12 is yours is low, unless it`s in liquid form that amount is alright, but my b complex caps have 50mg of b-12, why yours only has 1mg, I have no clue...

Stuff like maganese and iron, I don`t really know the ideal recommendations for them. Your chromium is also very low. Unless .2 means 200mcg then it`s fine. A reason for taking the multi is just that and other stuff like copper, calcium, and the carotene`s I don`t get from any given sources. So the multi is more of an insurance thing...


Damn did I ever get served, and it was the cheapest one out of the lot.
I didn't like paying the price I did but I didnt know where else to go.
I take an additional 2000 mg of vitamin C a day, so I think I'm alright there.
I'm def going to look into the one you just picked up after I finish this bottle.

And the B12 is in tablet form so I guess it's not enough. I should have done some more research before I picked this up.

[Memo]

do you guys really feel anything from a multi? I do B12 injection and Shakes with greens and fruits and veggies. Do you guys think recovery is improved with a multi?

[IrishTuner]

do you guys really feel anything from a multi? I do B12 injection and Shakes with greens and fruits and veggies. Do you guys think recovery is improved with a multi?


This is why I'm taking them:

http://www.illpumpyouup.com/articles/multivitamins-role-in-bodybuilding.htm

they say you'll never get enough vitamins/minerals through the food you eat

[Memo]

This is why I'm taking them:

http://www.illpumpyouup.com/articles/multivitamins-role-in-bodybuilding.htm

they say you'll never get enough vitamins/minerals through the food you eat

its maybe another scam.. they are juste trying to sell you some more pixie dust

[Ritch]

do you guys really feel anything from a multi? I do B12 injection and Shakes with greens and fruits and veggies. Do you guys think recovery is improved with a multi?

You`re really short changing yourself here. No extra vitamin C ( and saying you get it in food is not an argument as you`ll never get 3 grams a day this way. )

No magnesium and zinc and most bodybuilders from what I `ve read are defficient in them. Greens is a great product, good for overall health, but it`s not a vitamin product.

From what I use, I can say, that yes, the vitamins make a huge difference. Also I`d say the more strict your diet (eating the same food groups all the time) multi`s or something like what I`m taking becomes more important.

Don`t want to get too much off topic, but if you`re thinking of using gear, I`d really consider taking in more vitamins, just seems like common sense. Plus they don`t really cost that much.

[IrishTuner]

Unless you shop like me and they do cost a lot....LOL

[Memo]

You`re really short changing yourself here. No extra vitamin C ( and saying you get it in food is not an argument as you`ll never get 3 grams a day this way. )

No magnesium and zinc and most bodybuilders from what I `ve read are defficient in them. Greens is a great product, good for overall health, but it`s not a vitamin product.

From what I use, I can say, that yes, the vitamins make a huge difference. Also I`d say the more strict your diet (eating the same food groups all the time) multi`s or something like what I`m taking becomes more important.

Don`t want to get too much off topic, but if you`re thinking of using gear, I`d really consider taking in more vitamins, just seems like common sense. Plus they don`t really cost that much.

When I say greens, I am not talking about a powder form, I am more into taking a pound of spinach, 2 carrots, 1 apple, mango and avocado shakes. I have one of those shake 1 or twice a day with always different fruits and veggies.

I am thinking about buying Trueprotein multi its 40$ for 3 months
Vitamin A (As Beta-Carotene)10000IU 200%
Vitamin C(As Calcium Ascorbate) 500mg 833%
Vitamin D(As Cholecaciferol) 400IU 100%
Vitamin E(As D-Alpha Tocopherol Succinate) 400IU 1333%
Vitamin K(As Phytonadione) 30mcg 38%
Thiamin(As Thiamin Hcl) 50mg 3333%
Riboflavin(Vitamin B2) 50mg 2941%
Niacin (As Niacinamide)50mg 250%
Vitamin B6(As Pyridoxine Hcl) 550mg 2500%
Folic Acid 800 mcg 200%
Vitamin B12(As Cyancobalamin)500mcg 8333%
Biotin 50mcg 17%
Pantothenic Acid(As D-Caclium Pantothenate) 50mg 500%
Calcium(As Ascorbate, Citrate) 80mg 8%
Iron(As Iron Citrate) 10mg 56%
Iodine(From Kelp)150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (As Magnesium Citrate) 8mg 2%
Zinc(As Zinc Picolinate) 15mg 100%
Selenium(As L-Selenomethionine) 50mcg 71%
Manganese(As Manganese, Citrate)100mcg 5%
Chromium(As Chromium Polynicotinate) 100mcg 83%
Potassium(As Potassium Citrate) 19mg N/A*
*Daily value not established

Other Ingredients:
PABA(para-aminobenzoic acid) 50 mg
Inositol 50mg
Apple pectin(Malus domestica)(fruit) 50 mg
Rutin (Dimorphandra mollis)(fruit) 50 mg
Citrus bioflavonoid complex 50 mg
Shark cartilage 50 mg
Spirulina (Arthorspira platensis)(algae) 45 mg
Barley (Hordeum vulgare)(grass)45 mg
Bee pollen 45 mg
Chlorella (Chlorella pyrenodiosa)(algae) 45 mg
Alfalfa (Medicago sativa)(leaf) 45 mg
Siberian ginseng root(Elutheroccus senticosus) 45 mg
Green tea extract (Camellia sinensis)(leaf) 45 mg
Vegetable blend (broccoli, tomato, garlic, onion, cauliflower, hawthorne berries, brussel sprouts) 42 mg
Echniacea (Echinacea purpurea)(herb) 25 mg
Goldenseal (Hydrasis canadensis)(root) 25 mg
L-glutamic acid HCl 25 mg
Pepsin (from porcine) 25 mg
TMG (Trimethylglycine)(as betaine HCl) 25 mg
Papain (Carica papaya)(fruit) 25 mg
Royal jelly 15 mg
Shitake mushroom(Lentinus edodes)(fruit top) 15 mg
Reishi mushroom (Ganoderma lucidum)(fruit top) 15 mg
N-acetyl cysteine 15 mg, L-glutathione 10 mg
Pancreatin 4X (from porcine) 6 mg
Boron (as amino acid chelate) 3 mg
Coenzyme Q10 100 mcg
Pine bark (Pycnogenol)(Pinus maritimus)(bark) 100 mcg

what you guys think?

[Ritch]

That site you were on, does have some ok prices. They`re one of the few that sell CEL topical formestane for $30, but the shotgun may cost $7 more than some other place. But if you were to order from both places you`d still pay more because of the shipping....

[Ritch]

When I say greens, I am not talking about a powder form, I am more into taking a pound of spinach, 2 carrots, 1 apple, mango and avocado shakes. I have one of those shake 1 or twice a day with always different fruits and veggies.

Still, where`s the magnesium and zinc? How much vit C you think you`re getting? I think it`s great you have those shakes, but still think you`d be better off with more supps. Don`t you train mma as well?

[Memo]

Still, where`s the magnesium and zinc? How much vit C you think you`re getting? I think it`s great you have those shakes, but still think you`d be better off with more supps. Don`t you train mma as well?

I train about 12 hours a week all together. I will take you word on it and Get a multi and zma from trueprotein.com, in 3 months I will tell you if i see a difference. I just ordered.

[Ritch]

Good to hear! The zma for sure you will notice better sleep and it will help your training. That multi, unfortunetly in my opinion is very kitchen sinky... And not near a 3 month supply and shame on them for saying that. I`m all for value, but you can`t expect to get good doses of everything and there is alot of ingridients there for that cheap. I compared a few ingredients and many only have 1/4 to 1/10 of what`s in my progresvie vege green`s. Sorry to say but buyer beware dude.

Ideally, I`d take a greens type supp as they give fair doses of what`s put in the jar.
A good dosed multi,
extra vitamin C
ZMA optional, in your case a must as it seriously lacks the key ingredients. Magnesium and zinc should be in chelated forms. If not, I wouldn`t bother.

[Memo]

what do you think is wrong with trueprotein multi? just to low dosage?

[Ritch]

what do you think is wrong with trueprotein multi? just to low dosage?

Yes it`s an underdosed vitamin product. It`s dosed good in the various b vitamins and vitamine E, that`s it. The multi I plan on using is less expensive, much better dosed. I see no reason to buy this one.

[Memo]

can you give me a link to buy the one you are buying?

[#8]

yeah ritch post a link to the one you are using.

[Memo]

ADAM™ Superior Men's Multiple Vitamin - 120 Tabs for 20$ 2 months supply is cheaper and look better

Beta-Carotene (as pro-Vitamin A 6 mg) 10,000 IU 200%
Vitamin C (from Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 583%
Vitamin D (as Ergocalociferol) 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (from d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 200 IU 667%
Vitamin K (as Phytonadione) 50 mcg 63%
Thiamine (Vit. B-1) (from Thiamine HCl) 25 mg 1667%
Riboflavin (Vitamin B-2) 25 mg 1471%
Niacin (Vitamin B-3) (from Niacinamide and Inositol Hexanicotinate) 50 mg 250%
Vitamin B-6 (from Pyridoxine HCl and Pyridoxal-5 Phosphate (P-5-P)) 25 mg 1250%
Folate (as Folic Acid) 800 mcg 200%
Vitamin B-12 (as Methylcobalamin) 250 mcg 4167%
Biotin 300 mcg 100%
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) (from Calcium d-Pantothenate) 100 mg 1000%
Calcium (from Calcium Carbonate and Calcium Ascorbate) 350 mg 35%
Iodine (from Kelp) 225 mcg 150%
Magnesium (from Magnesium Oxide, Magnesium Citrate and ZMA®) 100 mg 25%
Zinc (from ZinMax® (Zinc Picolinate) and ZMA®) 30 mg 200%
Selenium (from L-Selenomethionine) 200 mcg 286%
Copper (from Copper AAC*) 500 mcg 25%
Manganese (from Manganese AAC*) 3 mg 150%
Chromium (from Chromium Chelavite®) 200 mcg 167%
Molybdenum (from Molybdenum AAC*) 50 mcg 67%
Potassium (from Potassium Chloride) 50 mg 1%
Saw Palmetto Extract (Berries) (Serenoa repens) (min. 45% Fatty Acids) 160 mg †
Panax Ginseng Extract (Roots) (min. 5% Ginsenosides) 100 mg †
ZMA® 55 mg †
Alpha Lipoic Acid 50 mg †
Choline (from Choline Bitartrate) 50 mg †
Kelp (Laminaria digitata)(Whole Plant) 45 mg †
Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Leaf) (min. 24% Ginkgoflavonglycosides) 30 mg †
Nettle Extract (Root) (Urtica dioica) (min. 30 ppm Scopoletin) 25 mg †
Grape Seed Extract (Vitis vinifera) (min. 90% Total Polyphenols) 25 mg †
Inositol (from Inositol Granules and Inositol Nicotinate) 25 mg †
Bromelain (2400 GDU/g) 25 mg †
Lipase (80,000 LU/g) 12.5 mg †
Papain (2,000 USP/mg) 12.5 mg †
Amylase (5000 FCC/g) 5 mg †
CoQ10 (as Ubidecarenone) 5 mg †
Lycopene (from Natural Tomato Extract) 1 mg †
Boron (from Boron AAC*) 1 mg †
Lutein (from FloraGLO®) 500 mcg †
Vanadium (from Vanadium AAC*) 100 mcg †
* Percent Daily Values are based on 2,000 calorie diet.
† Daily Value not established.

[Ritch]

Another kitchen sink product. It`s a one month supply at best. Less if you factor in certain doses of certain ingredients... Seriously the one I`m gonna get has the best value I can find.