Best pre/post supps before/after workouts??

[beginnerbuilder2010]

Hey all,just wondering what ever1's taking for pre/post workouts.I know i have a protein shake before and after workouts,and carbs.Also i am puting creatine into the mix.Is there anything else i should be supplementing with for my pre/post workouts,its difficult to figure out what all works and doesn't,and I am defiantly goin to check out TS.com,thanks every1.

[White-Tiger]

In my honest opinion,
If you are just starting out in this game, most supplements are going to be a waste of money for you. You should really stick to the basic supplements: Protein, Creatine, Multivitamin and spend the rest of the money on good quality food.

Once you've totally adapted to this lifestyle and your training and diet is spot on, and you stop growing, then you may start considering some of the more exotic supplements.

[GYMBRAT]

x2,

[Talo]

agree

[IrishTuner]

You may like an NO product like NOshotgun or superpump for a pre workout
supplement, they are pricey but if you have the money then they arent bad.
If I don't feel like working out I'll take a scoop of that and boom I'm into it.
But then again a cup of coffee or a caffeine pill will do the same thing.

[GYMBRAT]

emmm caffeine :D bzzzz

[O-Train]

In my honest opinion,
If you are just starting out in this game, most supplements are going to be a waste of money for you. You should really stick to the basic supplements: Protein, Creatine, Multivitamin and spend the rest of the money on good quality food.

Once you've totally adapted to this lifestyle and your training and diet is spot on, and you stop growing, then you may start considering some of the more exotic supplements.

Right on the money. Except I'd say when you stop growing eat more and figure out a better lifting program. No one has a perfect diet or training program and for someone who does...supplements will have zero effect. Hence the name "supplement".

[beginnerbuilder2010]

Yep i think i sould just stick to the basic supps like Protein,Creatine,Multivitamin omega fish oil caps,and a good clean diet,training.Very good advice every1 thanks!.Oh and im currently age 23,when is the age that are body starts to decline growing? and our testosterone levels start to drop? just curious..