View Full Version : Drinking soda linked to pancreatic cancer
Delt King
09-02-2010, 10:25 AM
http://www.windsorstar.com/health/Drinking+soda+linked+pancreatic+cancer+study/2535239/story.html
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Interesting how they believe it's the insulin that is responsible for the cancer cell growth. What do we do with this info now? Will it change our PWO protocols? I doubt it.
tiramisu
09-02-2010, 11:07 AM
While this may be true the study is pretty suspicious.
While I personally believe sugar/fructose is pretty much useless at best and poisonous at worst I have problems believing that relatively low dosages of sugar would affect a rare cancer incidence in a large enough number of case to be statistically significant in a short term study.
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/pancreatic-cancer/news/20100208/pancreatic-cancer-linked-sodas
Here's a link to the 6 studies - with free text available I found in pubmed..
1.
Sweets, sweetened beverages, and risk of pancreatic cancer in a large population-based case-control study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19277880?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1)
Chan JM, Wang F, Holly EA.
Cancer Causes Control. 2009 Aug;20(6):835-46. Epub 2009 Mar 11.PMID: 19277880 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Related articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed&uid=19277880&ordinalpos=1)Free article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19277880?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1&log$=free)
2.
Hepato-pancreato-biliary fat: the good, the bad and the ugly. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18333122?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=2)
Pitt HA.
HPB (Oxford). 2007;9(2):92-7.PMID: 18333122 [PubMed - in process]Related articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed&uid=18333122&ordinalpos=2)Free article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18333122?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=2&log$=free)
3.
Dietary glycemic load, added sugars, and carbohydrates as risk factors for pancreatic cancer: the Multiethnic Cohort Study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991664?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=3)
Nöthlings U, Murphy SP, Wilkens LR, Henderson BE, Kolonel LN.
Am J Clin Nutr. 2007 Nov;86(5):1495-501.PMID: 17991664 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Related articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed&uid=17991664&ordinalpos=3)Free article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991664?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=3&log$=free)
4.
Hypoxic regulation of PFKFB-3 and PFKFB-4 gene expression in gastric and pancreatic cancer cell lines and expression of PFKFB genes in gastric cancers. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17143338?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=4)
Bobarykina AY, Minchenko DO, Opentanova IL, Moenner M, Caro J, Esumi H, Minchenko OH.
Acta Biochim Pol. 2006;53(4):789-99. Epub 2006 Dec 4.PMID: 17143338 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Related articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed&uid=17143338&ordinalpos=4)Free article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17143338?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=4&log$=free)
5.
Dietary sugar, glycemic load, and pancreatic cancer risk in a prospective study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12208894?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=5)
Michaud DS, Liu S, Giovannucci E, Willett WC, Colditz GA, Fuchs CS.
J Natl Cancer Inst. 2002 Sep 4;94(17):1293-300.PMID: 12208894 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Related articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed&uid=12208894&ordinalpos=5)Free article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12208894?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=5&log$=free)
6.
Constitutive expression of hypoxia-inducible factor-1alpha renders pancreatic cancer cells resistant to apoptosis induced by hypoxia and nutrient deprivation. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11522653?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=6)
Akakura N, Kobayashi M, Horiuchi I, Suzuki A, Wang J, Chen J, Niizeki H, Kawamura Ki, Hosokawa M, Asaka M.
Cancer Res. 2001 Sep 1;61(17):6548-54.PMID: 11522653 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Related articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed&uid=11522653&ordinalpos=6)Free article (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11522653?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=6&log$=free)
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I listened to mauro di pasquale on shr last night lay the claim that the consumption of carbohydrates post workout short circuited hypertrophy and that any amount of carbs post workout was actually detrimental. [URL]http://www.superhumanradio.com/rss/show_podcast.xml (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez)
kloan
09-02-2010, 11:17 AM
I read once that post workout carbs stunted growth hormone production, that it was better to keep it at equal parts or less, or not at all, that protein was the most important thing. So many studies, so many opinions.
Delt King
09-02-2010, 11:21 AM
Now they need to do another study of the effects on geared bodybuilders so we can truly get an understanding of how it'll affect us. Hmmm post workout carbs detrimental to hypertrophy...? this might turn into a confusing issue soon.
tiramisu
09-02-2010, 02:41 PM
The whole carb debate is definitely confusing me. At this point I'm just aiming for the middle of the road and hoping for another 10 pounds next year.
I wish there were some studies on athletes in this area. Pasquale has trained some extemely competitive athletes and so have guys like Berardi. There are clearly 2 schools of thought and they just don't jive.
Hugheser
10-02-2010, 09:02 PM
It's called "Pop" in Canada.
JacktheThriller
10-02-2010, 10:46 PM
futher research needed one study show relations only in women other in men and woman makes me think its something else. The jump to causation by newspapers in not a new issue. Scientific papers would never say this causes this unless they have concrete evidence.
_Ragnar_
11-02-2010, 12:11 AM
I dont drink pop so i am not really worried about it.
Delt King
11-02-2010, 10:43 AM
I dont drink pop so i am not really worried about it.
I don't drink pop either but i do take dextrose with my creatine twice per day. And they inferred that the insulin spike is somehow related or causitory.
flex3d
11-02-2010, 05:08 PM
This just in... everything causes cancer. ( at least it seems like it)
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