sustanon only cycle

[beretta96]

I'm fixing up for a sustanon only cycle. I was going for 12 weeks at 500 mg/wk in two injections. I am going to frontload instead of using dbol. For pct I'll use HCG and Clomid.

I have two problems sort of. I am currently on the Palumbo diet so I am assuming I should wait until I am done before starting a cycle?

My next problem is that my "friend" wants me to do a weird cycle like 5 weeks on 3 weeks off. He says it's easier on the hpta and you don't need a pct afterwards. I've never heard of this. He'll likely be offended when I tell him I'm not doing it that way. What are your thoughts on his cycle ideas?

I've read a mixed bag of reviews on sustanon. Have any of you tried it?

thanks,

[Ritch]

5 weeks on 3 weeks off with sustanon? You`re friend is clueless. How do you plan on front loading the sustanon? Just curious.

[tex]

dont do it....not in 2 doses. your hormones will be all over the place.....sust has prop in it....pin eod or trade it for some enth or cyp...

[pw154]

My next problem is that my "friend" wants me to do a weird cycle like 5 weeks on 3 weeks off. He says it's easier on the hpta and you don't need a pct afterwards. I've never heard of this. He'll likely be offended when I tell him I'm not doing it that way. What are your thoughts on his cycle ideas?

I've read a mixed bag of reviews on sustanon. Have any of you tried it?Is there any particular reason you want to use sustanon? Personally I hate it. The mix of different esters sucks and leads to unstable blood levels. Why not just run enanthate or cyp?

As far as the 5 weeks on 3 off, tell your friend to do some reading before sticking himself. Moronic.

[beretta96]

The reason for Sustanon is that I was given an offer I couldn't refuse for it. I could pin 3 times a week if that's what's required, it doesn't matter to me. I've only pinned in glutes. Would 3 times a week be too much for glutes over 12 weeks?

As far as his cycle ideas, I don't know where he got his info, I should ask but it doesn't make any sense. He'll be pissed a little when I tell him I'm not doing it that way. After all, it is my body right? I was just curious if you guys have heard of a cycle like that. He's done it himself twice now with no pct! It looks as though he's doing fine, when we train together on occasion I do not see any drop in strength or size.

To frontload this, I was going to use that website called roid calculator. I haven't done it yet to see how much I would use. I would have to input each ester individually.

[L3]

pin any test w/ester EOD

and yes you will have to rotate. i do glute, then delt/pec, other glute, other delt/pec

[St]

Sus is great at 500-750mg a week for 4-6 month.I know lots of guys that did well on just Sus just before all the UG stuff hit the market,and btw test is test.

[methadone]

rotate it up a lil, there are lots of easy spots to inject that arent really painful at all. I only do 4 shots a week but this is what i do. right glute and left glute, right and left quad, right and left delt. pretty easy if youre doing long esters

[beretta96]

Have you guys ever played with one of those calculators? I just used roidcalc and you can play with the amounts to achieve a desired blood level using injectable and/or orals. It's pretty neat!

I used 12 weeks of sustanon and started a frontload of 250 mg for day 1 and 3 then 200 for day 5 and 7 then on day 9 and the rest of the way 125. According to the calculator, I peaked at day 7 with 85mg/day blood level and slowly came down to 70 mg/day by day 11 for the rest of the cycle. With every 2nd day injections of 125 mg my blood levels never go above 70 mg/day with a variation of 12mg/day.

My next question is, does this seem like too strong of a cycle? On a weekly basis for example I'll use 375 mgs and the following 7 days it's 1000mgs. Over 2 weeks it looks like a 600mg/wk average. I think it seems fair. What are your thoughts?

[theboss]

Sustanon EOD for 30 days........sweet.

[beretta96]

Sustanon EOD for 30 days........sweet.

Have you tried short cycles like that? What are they like?

[Memo]

if you do 30 days you need prop. I wonder how a 6weeks of prop, npp and anadrol would do.

[oldcanada]

sust for 30days, doesn't sound good to me, Sust takes 3 to 5 weeks to see the benifits as it is. And you need to shoot sust EOD, the guys who use sust and shoot 1 ot 2 amps a week are the guys who say they got scammed, that there sust was fake because they saw little or no results.

If you want to shoot test once or twice a week get cyp or enanth.

and I too want to know how you would front load sust......?
I really don't think you can.....get some prop use it alone for 2 weeks EOD, then add your sust, get more sust so you can do 10 to 12 weeks EOD and you will be very pleased with your cycle.

[tex]

if you do 30 days you need prop. I wonder how a 6weeks of prop, npp and anadrol would do. 6 weeks of prop, npp and anavar works great.....never tried the drol.....

[Danger]

Sust is great just make sure your pinning EoD and everything will be good. I have personally had great results from sust.

[Retics]

Somebody told me to take my d-bol on week 4 instead of using it to jumpstart a cycle,,and use if for 4-5 weeks for better results .

[Retics]

Sust Is what I'm running next, 500 mg week + 300 mg a week deca with 30 mg d-bol mid way.

[beretta96]

Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to pin this way. What do you think?
Day 1 250mg
Day 3 250mg
Day 5 200mg
Day 7 200mg
Day 9 125mg
etc....

According to the roidcalc my levels would spike by day 7 and stabilize by day 11 until the end of the cycle. I think that's reasonably fast out of the gate and the spike isn't that great above my cycle average.

[theboss]

Have you tried short cycles like that? What are they like?

only with sustanon...i liked it....
if memory serves me i did this twice..once with just sustanon....the other time with 1cc Prop & 1cc Sustanon..it was good...cant say for sure if i kept alot of the gains though.

[ironwill]

Somebody told me to take my d-bol on week 4 instead of using it to jumpstart a cycle,,and use if for 4-5 weeks for better results .

Yes, this is true...Your test just gets started when youre coming off dbol, why not have test fully on, then start dbol and get even more effect of the combined hormones, otherwise its kind of like doing dbol alone...IMO...
Then you come off, and think youre shrinking with waterloss etc, then you get mad at your rep, and stress/ cortisol is a killer.....lol....4 weeks in for the win...

[ironwill]

pin any test w/ester EOD

and yes you will have to rotate. i do glute, then delt/pec, other glute, other delt/pec

werd

[GYMBRAT]

lmao.......sooooooooo f'n true, ouch my f'n gut hurts now~!!

[Retics]

Thx Ironwill , Can't wait to give this a shot ,,(excuse the pun), an see how this works, and Dbol makes my strength skyrocket. How do you find pec shots,, I figure it would hurt like a bitch?

[ironwill]

cant do pec shots bro......gdamn man, i see some of these dudes posting that they do it and i get the heeeeebly geeeeebies....i bet id faint.......

[L3]

i shoot pecs all the time, use a 25ga, only need to go .5-.75 inch in... but if its thick oil you might regret it the next morning

ive been pinning 1ml, no problems :D

[Retics]

Nice,, yea I was thinking of that just to try an switch it up, Ha, I dont wanna hit bone though lol, Does heating the oil help at all with injection, making it smoother to inject, less pain?

[Big D]

Nice,, yea I was thinking of that just to try an switch it up, Ha, I dont wanna hit bone though lol, Does heating the oil help at all with injection, making it smoother to inject, less pain?

yes it does, i always heat up the oil

[beretta96]

Heating up the oil does help. I've never done it, but my wife did a couple of surrogacies where she had to inject a thicker oil than aas has and she had to pin every day! The doctor instructed her to only do glutes on top of that. She would boil water, put it in a hot water bottle and put the syringe under it for a few minutes. Worked well. The doctor told her not to nuke it, it may scramble the hormones but he wasn't sure.