tren advice needed

[mtlmuscle]

ok this is my second thread.in the first one i asked about best cutting cycle.i got nice answers mostly people suggested tren for cutting as first.
i would like to try tren too but let me explain my situation.i have test enathate and aromasin from my doctor for my trt.i cant seem to get rid of my stubborn fats around waist no matter what diet i follow or so much cardio,rest of my body is very lean but also i think iam prone to gyno not really big gyno but some fat around my nipples.in last 8 months i was succesfull to get rid of it.then one question mark in my head came up and asked my self ,am i prone to gyno or that was just a fat because of bed diet in the past.right now i got my lessons and learned how to eat.morning 3 eggs whit lean cut turkeybrast grilled and 2 slices of brown bread.lunch again lean beef with some grean leaf vegies and 2 slice of brown bread,number 3 meal is chicken with broccoli and 2 slices of brown bread,night time lean turkey again and some zero fat cheese like 3 slices
my question is how safely run tren without getting gyno,i have test and aromasin,thanks

[waderow]

tren is not a good drug to play with.

bad sides

[Memo]

Can you please edit with proper structure, it's hard to read like this. Thank you

[waderow]

lol. I couldnt read it either

[buildinthaskinnys]

ok this is my second thread.in the first one i asked about best cutting cycle.i got nice answers mostly people suggested tren for cutting as first.
i would like to try tren too but let me explain my situation.i have test enathate and aromasin from my doctor for my trt.i cant seem to get rid of my stubborn fats around waist no matter what diet i follow or so much cardio,rest of my body is very lean but also i think iam prone to gyno not really big gyno but some fat around my nipples.in last 8 months i was succesfull to get rid of it.then one question mark in my head came up and asked my self ,am i prone to gyno or that was just a fat because of bed diet in the past.right now i got my lessons and learned how to eat.morning 3 eggs whit lean cut turkeybrast grilled and 2 slices of brown bread.lunch again lean beef with some grean leaf vegies and 2 slice of brown bread,number 3 meal is chicken with broccoli and 2 slices of brown bread,night time lean turkey again and some zero fat cheese like 3 slices
my question is how safely run tren without getting gyno,i have test and aromasin,thanks

You are eating bread and you are wondering why its so hard to lose weight? Drugs are not your answer my friend, you need to study diet more. I dont know who told you that aas are for cutting but they fooled you, your diet and cardio is how you lose fat, aas helps more for building and preserving muscle.

[Delt King]

If you get gyno from tren it would be from prolactin/progesterone and not estrogen. Cabergoline or bromocriptine is used to combat this.

Now your diet still needs tweaking if you're not losing fat. Basically your total daily caloric intake is still too high and/or you're not burning enough calories.

[rated_rko]

fix your diet bud...

[tiramisu]

A point of apparent confusion.

Steroids DO NOT cause fat loss. Diet and to a lesser extent cardio do.

Steroids conserve muscle (testosterone at a fairly low dose) while running a significant caloric deficit.
AND once you are well below 10% body fat there are a couple of steroids (trenbolone being one of them) that give your muscle a hard look.

[mtlmuscle]

ok i understand your point guys.i can count my calories,i weigh 210 lbs.and i eat around 2000 to 2500 clrs a day everything i eat is clean and lean .do you guys think 100% whole wheat gread is fattening.but i know my body if i dont eat little bit carbs like brown breat at least i lose mass.so iam confused ...also such a bullshit about steroids dont burn fat i can come up with hundrends of studies proves steroid burns fat,like anavar without diet shange can bur fat specially around waist area.all you guys use steroid and reached your goals make muscle get lean after giving bullshits to others that steroids dont burn fat,balh,blah blah,you act like big shots.
offcourse sterids help burn fat science shows that i spend my time reading but reading the real science baout them not like the steroid profiles you see in the internet .i think bodybuilding worl is one of the biggest scams lot of bullshits and lias.

[tiramisu]

Let's see. You think you need to eat bread to sustain muscle and Steroids burn fat.

I suggest you research on pubmed as you've been reading posts by people who aren't really clear on the facts.

If you don't want to listen then have at it.

[Praetorian]

ok i understand your point guys.i can count my calories,i weigh 210 lbs.and i eat around 2000 to 2500 clrs a day everything i eat is clean and lean .do you guys think 100% whole wheat gread is fattening.but i know my body if i dont eat little bit carbs like brown breat at least i lose mass.so iam confused ...also such a bullshit about steroids dont burn fat i can come up with hundrends of studies proves steroid burns fat,like anavar without diet shange can bur fat specially around waist area.all you guys use steroid and reached your goals make muscle get lean after giving bullshits to others that steroids dont burn fat,balh,blah blah,you act like big shots.
offcourse sterids help burn fat science shows that i spend my time reading but reading the real science baout them not like the steroid profiles you see in the internet .i think bodybuilding worl is one of the biggest scams lot of bullshits and lias.


As stated before the last thing you need is drugs...nutriition should come first. And yes Tiramisu is correct aas DO NOT burn fat...especially site specific that is a load of crap. There is a tonne of misinformation out there beware of what you are reading and do some extensive research to back things up.
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[Ritch]

Your diet is really bad. Don`t even think about steroids yet. Check out the nutrition forum for what a good diet looks like. There`s been plenty good routines laid out in the past weeks.

[daande]

ok i understand your point guys.i can count my calories,i weigh 210 lbs.and i eat around 2000 to 2500 clrs a day everything i eat is clean and lean .do you guys think 100% whole wheat gread is fattening.but i know my body if i dont eat little bit carbs like brown breat at least i lose mass.so iam confused ...also such a bullshit about steroids dont burn fat i can come up with hundrends of studies proves steroid burns fat,like anavar without diet shange can bur fat specially around waist area.all you guys use steroid and reached your goals make muscle get lean after giving bullshits to others that steroids dont burn fat,balh,blah blah,you act like big shots.
offcourse sterids help burn fat science shows that i spend my time reading but reading the real science baout them not like the steroid profiles you see in the internet .i think bodybuilding worl is one of the biggest scams lot of bullshits and lias.

You are a bigger retard than me.

[Ritch]

Ha ha ha... I think Nate should rep you for that one!

[nitrous]

the only way your muscles will suffer from carbs is you will lose water retention which may make them a bit smaller but you arent actually losing muscle mass.. what everyone else in this thread has said is correct..

[beretta96]

ok i understand your point guys.i can count my calories,i weigh 210 lbs.and i eat around 2000 to 2500 clrs a day everything i eat is clean and lean .do you guys think 100% whole wheat gread is fattening.but i know my body if i dont eat little bit carbs like brown breat at least i lose mass.so iam confused ...also such a bullshit about steroids dont burn fat i can come up with hundrends of studies proves steroid burns fat,like anavar without diet shange can bur fat specially around waist area.all you guys use steroid and reached your goals make muscle get lean after giving bullshits to others that steroids dont burn fat,balh,blah blah,you act like big shots.
offcourse sterids help burn fat science shows that i spend my time reading but reading the real science baout them not like the steroid profiles you see in the internet .i think bodybuilding worl is one of the biggest scams lot of bullshits and lias.


First off, with a post like that, you sound like you're about 19 years old. You can read what you want or read into what you want but taking something like Var and sitting on the couch is not going to burn fat. It doesn't work that way. The mass you lose from not eating bread is fat not muscle if you're getting enough protein.

I think you need more time in the diet forum and quit reading about drugs. I was the same as you thinking a needle solves all and it does anything but. It's an aid that's all. I met a cool guy in town here, was a professional builder, now runs a gym and he's a personal trainer. He's helped a lot and surprise, nothing about drugs all food and lifting. Please do yourself a favor, you need to lose the attitude and listen to the advice given. It's for your own safety, jabbing yourself with tren or what have you is only going to get you hurt.

[White-Tiger]

Honestly, it's quebecers like him that give the entire province it's bad rap. Sure, we can excuse his grammar and spelling as his first language probably isn't english. But the general know-it-all attitude combined with severe ignorance and lack of foresight is hard to overpass.

I live in Quebec and honestly, sometimes the people here make me go "wtf?".
If Quebec ever seperates, it's going to end up worse than Haiti, lol.

[tiramisu]

Geez, I thought he was from Toronto.

[White-Tiger]

Geez, I thought he was from Toronto.

Sarcastic?
His name is "mtlmuscle", lol.

[tiramisu]

I was just basing it on the spelling, the grammar, the fact that his first language isn't english and the general know it all attitude with a lack of foresight.

Clearly Toronto.

[theboss]

You are a bigger retard than me.

bahahaha!!!


mtlmuscle...your diet is poop!

[Memo]

Honestly, it's quebecers like him that give the entire province it's bad rap. Sure, we can excuse his grammar and spelling as his first language probably isn't english. But the general know-it-all attitude combined with severe ignorance and lack of foresight is hard to overpass.

I live in Quebec and honestly, sometimes the people here make me go "wtf?".
If Quebec ever seperates, it's going to end up worse than Haiti, lol.

We don't need this kind of shit. We know he is retarded, but its because of is mother, not Quebec. Quebec will not separate by the way.

[White-Tiger]

Probably generalized a little too much, it's just I ran into 2-3 dumbasses here today and needed to vent ;).

[warlock]

Dude: I have only 6 months ESL training and you make my posts look like poetry.

[White-Tiger]

Dude: I have only 6 months ESL training and you make my posts look like poetry.

Didn't know you were from "La belle province"!

[Memo]

Dude: I have only 6 months ESL training and you make my posts look like poetry.

I am doing ESL as well right now..