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rated_rko
03-03-2008, 01:03 PM
what would you recommend??
tbol 40-60mg 4-6 weeks
var 50mg/winny 50mg 1-4 weeks
var only
var/tbol
winny/tbol

looking to lean out and not have much bloat...

megwell
03-03-2008, 02:53 PM
none of the above.
not a fan of oral only.

as someone esle once said:
Test P + tren ace + gh = **** off fat.

Demonwolf
03-03-2008, 03:44 PM
lol, i don't think i said "**** off" but LOL.

1 oral at a time for this guy.

Bowlcut
03-03-2008, 06:15 PM
lol, i don't think i said "**** off" but LOL.

1 oral at a time for this guy.

Run winny an test prop for 6 weeks. That is an amazing cycle.

alright
05-03-2008, 05:31 PM
I don't mind oral only cycles.

I have used Winny 30mg/day/Turinabol 30mg/day w/ nolva and proviron and got excellent results. Got lean, hard and full. 2 month cycle followed immediately by another 2 month cycle of Anavar 30mg/day/sublingual Durabolin 30mg/day. Kept getting leaner but stayed the same weight while cycling my carbs for fat loss.

Out of curiosity I got my blood tests done on the last day of this run (4months of use which is very long for me) and believe it or not my Doc said everything was fine. I couldn't believe it...no elevated liver functions etc. Go figure!?!?

I plan on testing a run of oral primobolan with Turinabol and nolva/proviron this summer. I find that the Turinabol and Proviron ad just enough androgens to get you super hard. Also, the oral primo is not alpha alkylated so shouldn't harm the liver.

I agree with most that one oral with one or two injectables stacked properly is preferred but I just wanted to chime in with my 2 cents for what its worth.

RJ*
05-03-2008, 06:06 PM
var>tbol>winny

carlc
06-03-2008, 02:50 AM
Of course you will get results!! A steroid is a steroid, whether orally ingested or injected, but the reason most people stay away from running many orals at one time has little to do with the potential effectiveness of the cycle in terms of muscle mass gain, fat burning etc.....it has to do with the fact that oral drugs (ALL orally ingested drugs on the market today -at least, those I know of, excluding perhaps andriol, which is garbage anyhow - ) stress your liver excessively.....to stack 2 or 3 or 4 of them is the same thing as increasing one prescription of any orally ingested drug 2 or 3 or 4 times......and simply increases the amount of work your liver has to do in order to detoxify your blood.......why take the extra risk, when there is really never a need to run many orals at once for long periods of time nowadays - almost any orally administered steroid is now available in injection form in any case.
Close to contest time of course, I have used more orals at once, simply because I get sick of all the f0912384ing injecting ten times a day......but for a regular, off-season cyle, it is best to stay completely away from them if possible. That is, if you want to minimize the inevitable side effects of course - if you don't care about that, then I guess it wouldn't matter - if the only concerns are results, I would suggest that you just make sure that you ingest around 20-40% more than you would if you were injecting, to get similar results that you would if you were injecting the same drug, since your body will not utilize nearly as much of the drug when ingested orally.....

Demonwolf
06-03-2008, 03:02 AM
NPP sublingually??????????

wtf?

carlc
06-03-2008, 06:37 AM
Oh yeah, I missed that - never heard of sublingual anabolics - maybe a pro-hormone? Something new?

BigWheel
06-03-2008, 08:25 PM
NPP sublingually??????????

wtf?

Ya IP makes them

rated_rko
06-03-2008, 08:27 PM
yeah i wanna harden up for sure...i feel soft lately