Next bulking cycle

[simon85]

Hey guys!

I'm about to start this big bulking cycle. It's my last chance to fix my weak points before my contest.

1-5 Anadrol 100mg/ed
10-15 Anadrol 50mg/ed
10-15 Dbol 40mg/ed
1-15 Tren-E 400mg/week
1-16 Test-E 800mg/week
1-16 nac 600mg/ed

Slin 6 weeks on/2weeks off
low dose of hcg during the cycle

then cruising

Any advices about the timing and compounds used? I'm a big fan of tren

[MassNutrition]

Two concerns stand out... First, how long before your contest are you planning to run this cycle? Second, I think it might be a little overkill with the A-bombs IMHO. A dose at 100mg is fine, but running it for a total of 15 weeks seems alittle much.

I would suggest dropping the Anadrol after week 5. I would also suggest uping your Test dose per week, or add in another compound and replace the Anadrol after week 5 once the Test n' Tren kick in. I think you would be alot happier with the gains...

[simon85]

Two concerns stand out... First, how long before your contest are you planning to run this cycle? Second, I think it might be a little overkill with the A-bombs IMHO. A dose at 100mg is fine, but running it for a total of 15 weeks seems alittle much.

I would suggest dropping the Anadrol after week 5. I would also suggest uping your Test dose per week, or add in another compound and replace the Anadrol after week 5 once the Test n' Tren kick in. I think you would be alot happier with the gains...

Thanks man.

I'm bulking for 16 weeks, then cruising for 4 weeks and it's the 16 weeks diet. The contest is in October.

About the anadrol: I heard that after 5 weeks, the gains stop. So there's no need to run it for a longer period.

I will take anadrol for the first 5 weeks at 100mg/ed. Then I take 5 weeks off. At week 10, I will run drol(50mg)+dbol(40mg) for another 5 weeks. Look good?


How much test would you recommend me ? 1g or more?

Also, I realized that cruising at 200mg/week is not enough for me. I lose too much mass. I would need at least 300-400mg. So how much test you think it will be needed during my blast without abusing too much?

[MassNutrition]

I don't know what your cycle history is, but I'll say up your Test to a full gram per week...

I'm still leaning towards you dropping the Dbol and Adrol completely after week 5. IMHO, I would like to see you add in some EQ, starting from week1. I would normally suggest Deca, but not with the Tren in there...

I ran this last fall:
Test Prop - 1650mg/week
Tren Ace - 700mg/week
EQ - 800mg/week

It was one of the best cycles of my life. I can't help feel that the EQ solidified the gains from the 1-2 punch of the Test n' Tren. Needless to say, my appetite was through the roof too.

You want that appetite, trust me! I love Anadrol, so don't get me wrong. But I know from past experience, Anadrol kicks the shit out of my appetite, and eating feels like a chore...

[Kronis]

Thanks man.

I'm bulking for 16 weeks, then cruising for 4 weeks and it's the 16 weeks diet. The contest is in October.

About the anadrol: I heard that after 5 weeks, the gains stop. So there's no need to run it for a longer period.

I will take anadrol for the first 5 weeks at 100mg/ed. Then I take 5 weeks off. At week 10, I will run drol(50mg)+dbol(40mg) for another 5 weeks. Look good?


How much test would you recommend me ? 1g or more?

Also, I realized that cruising at 200mg/week is not enough for me. I lose too much mass. I would need at least 300-400mg. So how much test you think it will be needed during my blast without abusing too much?

What's your cutting cycle look like? If there's not much oral in there it would probably be fine to do the 5 on/5 off/5 on in your bulking cycle.

[simon85]

What's your cutting cycle look like? If there's not much oral in there it would probably be fine to do the 5 on/5 off/5 on in your bulking cycle.

My contest preparation will be made by Vadim Beliaev.

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/VadimBeliaev/

We talked about Tren+test+growth(4iu/day). Masteron+tren ace during the final weeks. A low dose of t-3 during all the cycle and cycling clen.

He won't miss me lol

[simon85]

I don't know what your cycle history is, but I'll say up your Test to a full gram per week...

I'm still leaning towards you dropping the Dbol and Adrol completely after week 5. IMHO, I would like to see you add in some EQ, starting from week1. I would normally suggest Deca, but not with the Tren in there...

I ran this last fall:
Test Prop - 1650mg/week
Tren Ace - 700mg/week
EQ - 800mg/week

It was one of the best cycles of my life. I can't help feel that the EQ solidified the gains from the 1-2 punch of the Test n' Tren. Needless to say, my appetite was through the roof too.

You want that appetite, trust me! I love Anadrol, so don't get me wrong. But I know from past experience, Anadrol kicks the shit out of my appetite, and eating feels like a chore...

Thanks man. Adding EQ look like a bad ass idea. I'm upping the test to 1g/week

[bigdaddydrew123]

i also agree with mass on this test tren are gonna be your bread and butter on this and at 16 weeks you wont need orals and if you wanna bulk eq is a good choice for appetite.ypu should do amazing on this. try and eat clean dont wanna get too fat b4 show

[St]

Ya i would cut out all orals like A'a or D-bol at about four weeks,and go with the TNT combo.

[simon85]

Sound great.

Do you believe that we have to change compounds during a longer cycle to always give something new to the receptors? That way, you can't get use to something and you're always growing.

[MassNutrition]

Sound great.

Do you believe that we have to change compounds during a longer cycle to always give something new to the receptors? That way, you can't get use to something and you're always growing.

Absolutely not. Esters like Enanthate and Undecylenate (if you choose to do the EQ), need more time to peak your blood serum levels. Longer cycles with these types of compounds are ideal.

Milder anabolics like Primo, Deca, and EQ don't act in a dramatic manner as persay, Suspension or Anadrol would. Instead they promote a slow and consistant build-up of muscle tissue...

Stick to your back-to-back 16 weeker bulker and cutting cycles as you outlined... the timing and duration for both look good.

[simon85]

Thanks a bunch guys.

You really helped me and I greatly appreciated it!