Primo Advice

[honk]

I have done a bit of searching on Primo found loads of information lots contradicting the last load of info, so thought i would just ask rather than randomly searching the Net.

If someone was to do a Primo (tab) cycle i understand gains are not going to be anything like other cycles out there, where would be a good place to start.

Male 210Lbs.

Looking at doing 125mg/day 5 days a week weekends off.

50 gram morning
25 gram lunch time
50 before work out

Roughly 5hr spacing ive read prim only has a 6hr life so you need to split it but ive also read just take it in the morning.

Cycle would run aprox 10weeks after would you need clomid or similar and should you just stop dead at 10 weeks or then start to tapper down over 2 weeks to 25mg/day?

Would there also be any advantage to adding 50mg/day winny(tab) for 4 weeks in that or just stay primo.

Goal is to gain muscle definition and size not major size.

Thanks for input.

[Praetorian]

Primo acetate tabs are a great for females...not so much for males....quite weak. If you are dead set on primo you would make much better gains using primo depot injectable. PCT with clomid 50mg twice daily for three weeks would probably be suffcicient. FYI definition comes from fat loss ie dieting and cardio not aas...you will gain a bit of size...however minimal if your training and diet is decent. You arent going to do both lose fat and gain muscle....pick one.
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[honk]

I heard primo is week but told taking 625mg/week should be good on tabs, injections are not an option. Cannot inject anything.

Wrong use of words when i said definition i meant i want to gain some size without bloat/water retention.

Thanks

[L3]

anavar would be a better choice, IMO

[honk]

Thanks for the input i have no choice now its going to be Prim or throw it away. This is the fisrt time ive looked at anything like this so wanted something easy, that i thought would give a steady gain. Maybe it was a waste of $$$$$ suppose the next 10 weeks will tell.

[theboss]

injections are not an option. Cannot inject anything.


perhaps you should consider a new hobby........like knitting.

[natenator]

perhaps you should consider a new hobby........like knitting.
:yeah

[honk]

perhaps you should consider a new hobby........like knitting.

No good i think they have a sharp point. Never using them though i dont know so i will bow down to your knowledge on this

[Redz]

If you are afraid of injections you really shouldnt be cycling.

[honk]

Im not afraid of injections its just something at the moment ive decided i dont want to do. Thats why I was asking for advice on the Tabs.

At the moment i dont feel i know enough about injections to undergo this sort of stack hence why i asked about pills a lot easier to begin with and learn from IMO

Everyone has to start somewhere

[theboss]

you will be disappointed.

[honk]

Okay thanks for the input, to rectify what im doing or so i wont be disappointed.

What do you suggest ive read Dbol after 4 weeks of prim for 4weeks then back to just prim for the last 2 weeks. I dont have a clue once i get into these areas as there is loads of misguided advice out there.

Also i have no one to show injections so i would be going blind so to speak.

So if you can suggest or help much appreciated.

Thanks all.

[L3]

wait, so you cant do injections because you dont know how, or you dont have the cahones to stick yourself?

and since youre going the oral route, you might as well stack with something more potent, forget the DBol unless you wanna risk having elongated nipples... go with Anavar or Tbol.

60mg var/tbol 1-6
75mg primo 1-8

or better yet
100mg var 1-8

[honk]

I can stick it well i say i can never tried it, the reason i was not is cause i dont no how.

So 60 or 100mg of var for weeks 1-8 ? is that 100/day or per week i started 125mg/day of primo at the moment but dont take on weekends.

It says not much in gains similar to premo solid gain but very little size.?

Thanks

[L3]

plz edit the post as price discussion is not allowed.

its always mg/day

since you already started the primo might as well finish it off, and wait till cycle #2

google spotinjections for instructions on how to pin

[natenator]

Im not afraid of injections its just something at the moment ive decided i dont want to do. Thats why I was asking for advice on the Tabs.

At the moment i dont feel i know enough about injections to undergo this sort of stack hence why i asked about pills a lot easier to begin with and learn from IMO

Everyone has to start somewhere
and some opf us start by doing things right instead of wasting time with uselessness.

[honk]

Thanks for you opinion on that, this is why i came to ask telling me im wasting my time does not offer much in the way of constructive advice or help but thanks..

Although i may be wasting my time I started this cycle through asking questions in another area, people etc etc upon further searches and reading i found that it might not be the best thing to be doing, so i came hear hoping to find guidance/direction.

You may be one of them lucky people that everything you do in life you do right first time and never make mistakes well done, im not one of them.

[tex]

so you already started this cycle? you need to run it 7 days a week.....and id pick something up to go with it.....preferably injectable testosterone......

[theboss]

so you already started this cycle? you need to run it 7 days a week.....and id pick something up to go with it.....preferably injectable testosterone......

you havent read the thread.....
he no like needles and thinks pills are the way to go........:puff

[tiramisu]

This would be a great cycle if you were an 80 pound girl.

[natenator]

This would be a great cycle if you were an 80 pound girl.
well he does appear to have a bit of sand in his vagina...

[honk]

This would be a great cycle if you were an 80 pound girl.
lol

I never said i think its the way to go. And needles i dont know how to use so was staying clear until i educated myself on it.

Yeah i started its a bit messed up due to some bad searching.

As in i was told to run 25mg/day and then further search showed up 50-150/day

so ive done 1 week at 25/day
then 2nd week at 100/day last couple days up to 125/day but im not taking it on weekends as i dont work out on weekends...

I could just stop stay off everything for a month or whatever is recommended and then start again.

Thanks for the input guys this is helping a lot.

[tiramisu]

500 mg of test / wk for 12 weeks
simple, effective, proven, safe

[theboss]

500 mg of test / wk for 12 weeks
simple, effective, proven, safe

SUPER DUPER!

[L3]

im not taking it on weekends as i dont work out on weekends...


you're joking right?

ok forget anything ive told you to do. i guess i should keep my mouth shut in the beginner forum. sigh.

[honk]

:O) thats why I posted in the beginners forum new to this and it dont help not having any one to talk to as i dont no any one doing anything.

I was told one to keep to the same plan 5days on 2 days off the gym
And give your body a rest from prim as well on the weekends.

So ive changed every thing going to take it 7 days/week which will cut the total cycle time down once done stay clean for a while then come back and ask before i start or do as Tiramisu suggested.

L3 are you saying im wrong for taking the break or wrong for not working out on weekends or wrong as in you dont stop just cause you are not working out.

Thanks.

At least i can say its not been a complete **** up although the cycle is not as i thought etc etc i have learn't a lot just asking the questions nothing wrong with making mistakes as long as you learn form them.

[L3]

wrong as in you dont stop just cause you are not working out.


the issue is you put the carriage ahead of the horse. research thoroughly first before putting stuff into your body :greet

while primo ace is a relatively "mild" drug, had you done this with Dbol, chances are your post title would be more like "i have acne and huge nipples, please help!!"

[GYMBRAT]

don't consider cycling till you have done ALL your homework bro, that means studying up on injections, what and where to inject, orals are not a cycle imo ;)

[honk]

the issue is you put the carriage ahead of the horse. research thoroughly first before putting stuff into your body :greet

while primo ace is a relatively "mild" drug, had you done this with Dbol, chances are your post title would be more like "i have acne and huge nipples, please help!!"

Thanks i did study obviously not enough i was told i should do dbol when general talking but due to side effects i researched i went against it and went with the oral only.

I will leave this for now finish what im on and start again later.

Thanks every one for input and the education....

[GYMBRAT]

good luck, and don't hesitate to post any type of question bro as we are all here to help as much as we can. For me I just speak from yrs of my own screw ups lol

I forgot to mention that my lil screw ups were before we had these great site like this to learn and study from. So imo there should be NO reason not to make proper/safe choices anymore!

[MMASTAR]

And let us know if you make any gains when you are done....curosity i guess..lol..

[honk]

Will do once finished at least it might help some one else in a similar position

[519Muscle]

Do u follow any sort of diet?

[GYMBRAT]

Will do once finished at least it might help some one else in a similar position

nope, cause no one will try this after learning from all of us that it is not a worthy way of goin about it

[honk]

Do u follow any sort of diet?

I follow a roughed diet plan. I started to look into what i eat at beginning of the year and upping food intake.

I currently sit around
3000 cals/day aprox

70 g fat
300g prot
rest is carbs since starting the primo, i am also pushing the carbs more, I struggle with food as i dont eat much so have to really push myslef to eat.

I have gained about 3lbs since starting Primo.

[honk]

Doing some more searching what advantage would it be if any to sack winny with the primo.

Some of the forum saying you should do 1-12 prim then 8-12 winny

just curious to the benefits if any to this.

On a side not im starting to get some mild joint pains i started to taking glucosamine any other suggestions on this.

Thanks

[L3]

willing to bet your "primo" is winny

[honk]

I have no way of truly knowing but dont belive it is, but just never know.

So what would be the point or advantage anyhow to sack them

[MMASTAR]

willing to bet your "primo" is winny

agreed

[honk]

What do winny pills look like or is it just could look like anything.

I dont think they are as i got offered 50mg winny or 25mg primo.

And the person is trusted that got them.

[mersanary]

I think you should stop putting mystery pills into your mouth, and instead substitute it with more food and a little shut the **** up

[honk]

I think you should stop putting mystery pills into your mouth, and instead substitute it with more food and a little shut the **** up

Well done very useful.

Im not putting anything in my mouth that im not sure I just asked a question.

[MMASTAR]

where the pills in packaging or are they loose? are they human grade or from a UGL? i dont think primo is suspossed to affect joints, but winny definetly does and is often pased of as primo or var, low estrogen can also dry out you joints i belive.

[honk]

Package like you would get advil little bottle with a label on it made in USA cotton in the bottle to stop damage and a paper/plastic sealed on top that needs to be broken with a lid on.

I will find out the manufacture and list it up just cant remember at the moment.

[IndraArya]

So what is it?

[japh]

Hey honk, well done for stating humble while getting flamed. Keep it up because you're learning more than you know. Sometimes its hard for people to remember they once had the same knowledge as you when it comes to cycling. I suggest you listen to what people are saying. For example, Natenator telling you straight up that your cylce is a waste of time was VERY constructive. Next time you cycle its 500mgs of INJECTABLE TESTOSTERONE a week or NOTHING!

[japh]

I thought about it and decided I need to be even more clear.

500 MILLIGRAMS OF INJECTABLE TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE OR CYPIONATE A WEEK FOR A MINIMUM OF 12 WEEKS NEXT TIME OR NOTHING!

Sell the primo to your little sister. It might help her kickass at gymnastics or soccer. Hope that puts it in perspective for ya.

[maximus14]

Everyone has to start somewhere[/QUOTE]

start from researching injections! test 500mg week split in 2 shots spaced 3.5