been 5 or 6 years since last cycle...advice

[oldcanada]

what do you guys think would be a great cycle to jump on. I have not used anythig in 5 or 6 yrs. Looking to keep muscle, maybe gain some as well as cut up a bit. Not to worried about cutting yet as I don't know the date I want to compete or attempt to compete. I know how to diet and what to do to cut up as I have done that several times even without gear.(vacation trips, weddings, special occations ect.)The goal is to see what kind of results I can get with my lifestyle and see how dedicated I can be. if all goes well, I want to try to compete. I have gotten very close a few times and chicken'd out last minute.

any help would be great.

thanks

[cog]

How old are you?

[daande]

What is your cycle experience? How long do you want to run for?

[oldcanada]

35 yrs old.

Vast cycle experiance.
You name it I have done it.

I was a juice monkey for years, just been awhile. I have a few ideas, but just looking to see what you guys might think.

I have done lots of tren/winny/test cycles, Deca/Test cycles, EQ/D's cycles, HGH/Test/Tren cycles....alot.

I have read about alot of new ideas for good cycles. Willing to try anything worth doing. I am a Veteran when it comes to gear use. I have also made a few mistakes along the way, wrong cycle at the wrong time...lol...also paid more than I should a few times...lol oh well learn as I go.

Just want to see what the guys think.

[William Shatner]

If you have been off that long you'll be damn near a virgin and should respond very well to some low doses of Test E and Deca and eat big and clean.'

You are going to blow up big time I suspect, you should post some old pics if you got em so everyone knows where you were at before.

I just started again myself and im up about 18lbs with minimal gear and cleaning up the food. I was shocked how quickly I have been adding size at 40 something years old.

[oldcanada]

my avatar is me when i was on gear.

I'll post a few from before when I find them. Might have to scan some.

[daande]

Why not just run something simple like:

Weeks 1-16: 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-14: 400mg Deca
Weeks 4-8: 40mg Dbol ED

Power PCT program.

[Mr Ontario]

i be suspecting that would little to mild for him :)


Why not just run something simple like:

Weeks 1-16: 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-14: 400mg Deca
Weeks 4-8: 40mg Dbol ED

Power PCT program.

[Solo59]

Why not just run something simple like:

Weeks 1-16: 500mg Test E
Weeks 1-14: 400mg Deca
Weeks 4-8: 40mg Dbol ED

Power PCT program.

You want results and you have experience?

Weeks 1-16: 750mg Test E
Weeks 1-15: 400mg Tren E
Weeks 1-4: 100 mg EOD of Test prop

Plus ancillaries. With Tren E you really need nothing else. To my mind, nothing kick-starts like Test prop. At four weeks the longer ester will just be kicking in, so you can stop the prop.

Solo

Solo

[oldcanada]

thanks for the feedback. I can do either of the above cycles, it will be like I am a virgin forsure. But like Mr. Onatario said, might be a bit mild as to what I have done before. Remember I am still a very big guy.

So far I have on hand:

-40ml @75mg/ml Tren Acc Home brew
-25 ea Sust 250
-4Kits HGH (not sure if I am going to use these yet)

Post
-HCG lots going to use for another project as well.
-Clomid
-Nolvadex (just enough incase of boobs)

I ordered Test E and I might order some prop since I am going to do tren acc. I don't like d-bol, too many pills and I never seem to keep the gains.

What else goes well with Tren other than winny. Like I said not looking to cut yet.

[William Shatner]

What about throwing some A-50's in the mix?

[oldcanada]

What about throwing some A-50's in the mix?


I have never to this day had any luck getting REAL A-50's, they have always been fake, Even had a UGL batch and later found out you can't put the raws into a cap. Even if it's real powder, the caps don't work.
I had a chem engineer bud explain it to me once and he lost me at
" you can't use caps for A-50 becasue........................."

So I am A-50 shy

[Solo59]

thanks for the feedback. I can do either of the above cycles, it will be like I am a virgin forsure. But like Mr. Onatario said, might be a bit mild as to what I have done before. Remember I am still a very big guy.

So far I have on hand:

-40ml @75mg/ml Tren Acc Home brew
-25 ea Sust 250
-4Kits HGH (not sure if I am going to use these yet)

Post
-HCG lots going to use for another project as well.
-Clomid
-Nolvadex (just enough incase of boobs)

I ordered Test E and I might order some prop since I am going to do tren acc. I don't like d-bol, too many pills and I never seem to keep the gains.

What else goes well with Tren other than winny. Like I said not looking to cut yet.

If you eat right and work right, and run plenty of Tren & Test, you will be on the gain train. I really don't think you need anything else. BUT I am running EQ as well for joints. Some guys swear by Var toward the end, but I can't see it doing much if your Tren is working. The rest is eating eating eating (which I personally can't bear to do). Test + Tren is your best bulker and you don't need Dbol or Deca or the rest of that watery stuff. (I prefer Tren enanthate just so I don't have to do more than two pokes a week, except during the three week Test prop build-up — to which you could add your Tren acetate for a wicked fast take-off.)

You've got a quite a mixture of choices on hand. You may not want Arimidex if your goal is bulking, but it's nice to know that 0.5 mgs EOD keeps the bitch tits away. HCG throughout at about 500 mg 2x EW keeps the boys fat and recovery easier.

If you begin the GH immediately, it should really help you to retain your gains (& mood) between cycles.

Good luck & welcome back to the club.

Solo

[oldcanada]

thanks Solo59.

[William Shatner]

Any update what you are going to run? Im kinda in the same boat as you with the Test & Tren on hand.

I was debating 6 months of GH but I'd hazzard a guess 90% of Canadian product is relabled Peptides or HCG.

[oldcanada]

Any update what you are going to run? Im kinda in the same boat as you with the Test & Tren on hand.

I was debating 6 months of GH but I'd hazzard a guess 90% of Canadian product is relabled Peptides or HCG.


i think I am going to start with the sust and tren, I have some test enanth on order, should be here next week.

I just want to see how it goes for now, I guess I will start small, just to get a jump......Or, I go hard and grow like a mutha ****a....lol....

I am still not sure. I don't want to make any gains that are just water, I want them to be solid factual muscle.

[GYMBRAT]

the main ingredient your looking for and will require most of all is EAT, SLEEP, TRAIN. The gear will just help aid your progress ;) good luck bro

[William Shatner]

Maybe we can have a board ' who loses the most hair on a tren cycle' contest.

I noticed after a long layoff my joints are not what they used to be, load up on Omega 3 and Glucosamine!!

[tiramisu]

The strength increases with tren make tendon aches a pretty common thing but such is the price you pay.

Test/Tren Test/Deca Test/EQ nothing has really changed in the land of aas in the last 10 years other than the use of hgh and insulin. I personally like the idea of a 16 weeker with Test/Deca to start and Test/Tren to finish as I like the way I feel on t/d and the mild bloat buffers the joints a little bit and I like the way test/tren makes me look with drier tighter muscle but still added strength. I really haven't found a need personally to experiment with eq.

I like to toss an oral (tbol for me, dbol jacks my bp) in a couple of times for 4 weeks.

I love the idea of hgh/insulin I just can't afford the reality. The amount required for muscular growth (1 iu/kg/week) is just too cost prohibitivr and using it to manage body fat just feels like a waste. I can manage body fat as effectively by not being sloppy with my diet.

I have waffled and continue to on the on cycle use of aromasin and hcg. Both seem to be a very good idea but I find that if my dosage of test is <1 gram a week I really don't have estrogen bloat. The use of hcg during cycle rather than pre pct is one that I really need to think about as it seems smart but I haven't been diligent about. I've been megadosing pre-pct instead.

[Blitz-Test]

Honestly 5-6 years off is along time and yuo will respond to very little gear again no need to go at like 1g+...

1-12 Test E 600mg/week
1-10 Tren E 200-300mg/week
7-12 Winstrol 25mg/ed

[GYMBRAT]

x2, I took off almost 4 yrs and did a cycle of test prop at 100mgs eod, tren ace at 75mgs eod for 10 wks with almost newbie style gains

[oldcanada]

ok so here it is, Im going to do test enanth and tren. Going to start in the spring.

Thats it.

See how it goes and then maybe use my sust for the next one.

[Mr Ontario]

Well that facking boring :)


ok so here it is, Im going to do test enanth and tren. Going to start in the spring.

Thats it.

See how it goes and then maybe use my sust for the next one.

[oldcanada]

Well that facking boring :)


LOL.....send me an e-mail of what you think I should do....you know what I have done in the past, com'on talk me into some good shit....lol:hu

[cog]

Weird peptides.Just kidding.

[William Shatner]

ok so here it is, Im going to do test enanth and tren. Going to start in the spring.

Thats it.

See how it goes and then maybe use my sust for the next one.



Come on!!! What would Charles Atlas do?

You don't want sand kicked in your face this summer do you? I'd throw your GH into the mix and shoot it 3 times a week (9iu per shot) 4 kits total. With your Cycle above you should be able to choke slam Brock Lesnar!!!

[oldcanada]

Come on!!! What would Charles Atlas do?

You don't want sand kicked in your face this summer do you? I'd throw your GH into the mix and shoot it 3 times a week (9iu per shot) 4 kits total. With your Cycle above you should be able to choke slam Brock Lesnar!!!


OK ok, I am re-thinking it, I badly want to lay a beating on Brock Lasenholler...I might up my test and add the GH, but I don't want to get any bulky-er(fat)...I want to maintain my bulk(fat) and get ready to start cutting this spring....Maybe I should add some winny to it as well.

Test E/ Sust
Tren
GH
Winny


what do you think of that one?

[L3]

no need for the winny until you start cutting, imo

[oldcanada]

no need for the winny until you start cutting, imo


kinda what I was thinkin, but maybe I should start a slight cutter now, we are almost into March. Gotta look good kickin sand in peoples fases at the beach.....lol....