well i guess the trens kicking in

[rated_rko]

just about to start week 5 of tren E and look its 5am and im wide awake but yawning...makes no sense to me...any ideas or suggestions with me catching some sleep before i lose my sanity?

[tiramisu]

inject in the am, lower your carb especially in the evening.

[tex]

melatonin or some green.....but not both together.....creepy, vivid dreams....

[L3]

..do more cardio

[daande]

melatonin + ZMA should help alot. If all else fails smoke a joint.

[theboss]

gravol for the win.

tren A or E ??

[rated_rko]

tren e...
thanks for the replies i fell asleep @ 9am lol

[Solo59]

I shamelessly use ativan occasionally.

Solo

[tiramisu]

I have done several runs with tren @ 700 mg / week.

Almost all the symptoms I have with tren appear to be related to hypoglycemia, night sweats, aggression. I found that I was a lot more stable, had fewer night sweats and slept better when I was careful not to spike my blood sugar with carbs. I also found a more frequent dosing schedule (more stable blood levels) to be better than a less frequent dosing schedule.

The better able you are to manage your diet, blood sugar, and hormone levels the less aggressive the tren sides should be.

I dislike the idea of piling other drugs on top of what is already a pretty darn aggressive drug regime.

[bongd]

Switch to tren ace. I always say **** the half lives and what you read on the internet. Just do tren ace and pin it very frequently. I can't fathom using tren enth.

I'm in at week 4 with tren and after this vial's finished I'm going to abstain. I only use 75mg EOD and sometimes skip a day and go off an extra day because of the lethargy lol... I'm thinking I'm only going to use 50mg EOD next time I use it. Just do short bursts. I lean out and muscle up even with just a couple weeks of tren.

[Solo59]

In my opinion, the esters of Tren enanthate are much easier to handle (as long as you don't run too high a dose). Once the longer esters begin their effects, they remain at stable levels in the bloodstream with just two shots each week. I still get the lethargy (except when I'm exerting myself in the weightroom), but every other common Tren side does not seem to be present. (Well, I do get impatient with the unlistening chatter of my mate, but I probably would anyway.:))

Solo

[rated_rko]

not gonna switch it up now since i bought my supply for my current cycle hopefully i get use to it and dont have to use any sleepaids but we'll see

[oldcanada]

Switch to tren ace. I always say **** the half lives and what you read on the internet. Just do tren ace and pin it very frequently. I can't fathom using tren enth.

I'm in at week 4 with tren and after this vial's finished I'm going to abstain. I only use 75mg EOD and sometimes skip a day and go off an extra day because of the lethargy lol... I'm thinking I'm only going to use 50mg EOD next time I use it. Just do short bursts. I lean out and muscle up even with just a couple weeks of tren.


Tren ace.... thats all I have ever used. Bump up the intesity of your workout, play yourself out. On tren thats what you want to do, train extra extra hard, if at the end of your day you are still awake, you need to try harder the next day. Also the above sleep aids will work. But I have alwasy just tried to play myself out, if you can't, ask the woman to help, saw one off...lol...thats a sure thing to get you feeling sleepy...lol

[xxSCHiSMxx]

Benadryl (Diphenhydramine hydrochloride) works well for me when I can't sleep on tren or just regular insomnia. I may feel little drugged out in the morning, but nothing a strong cup of coffee won't fix.

[rated_rko]

might try the benadryl because ive used it in the past along with clen to clear out my receptors

[L3]

fack i had trensomnia last night.... soooo not cool!!!

[natenator]

fack i had trensomnia last night.... soooo not cool!!!
**** you complain a lot

[L3]

maybe i'm just a post whore, trying to get 4367

[bongd]

Tren ace.... thats all I have ever used. Bump up the intesity of your workout, play yourself out. On tren thats what you want to do, train extra extra hard, if at the end of your day you are still awake, you need to try harder the next day. Also the above sleep aids will work. But I have alwasy just tried to play myself out, if you can't, ask the woman to help, saw one off...lol...thats a sure thing to get you feeling sleepy...lol

Yeah man I've had people ask me why I look so tired before, but why I'm so jacked too lol. I also toke before the gym which gives me energy. Just has to be immediately before, otherwise I'll get too stoned and get couch lock.

Just gonna stick with tren blasts. I skipped a few doses of tren and went two days off rather than EOD. A vial lasted me a month and while I love it, I can't wait to have energy again. Total transformation in just 4 weeks. Trens ****ing nuts.

[oldcanada]

the only real thing, now that I think about it, that ever kept me awake on tren was being hot. Seemed like my body temp went up a few degrees when on tren.

[zziggzzigg]

reading this thread brought back memories, it's been a few years since I did it last, it is powerful, I miss it, but it took me a while to get back to normal after so that is the only thing keeping me away for the meantime

very tempting though

[waderow]

I have done several runs with tren @ 700 mg / week.

Almost all the symptoms I have with tren appear to be related to hypoglycemia, night sweats, aggression. I found that I was a lot more stable, had fewer night sweats and slept better when I was careful not to spike my blood sugar with carbs. I also found a more frequent dosing schedule (more stable blood levels) to be better than a less frequent dosing schedule.

The better able you are to manage your diet, blood sugar, and hormone levels the less aggressive the tren sides should be.

I dislike the idea of piling other drugs on top of what is already a pretty darn aggressive drug regime.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to tiramisu again.