Primobolan

[Houstonbc]

What does everyone think of this compound? I have never tried it but i found 30mls in my drawer that id forgotten about. Any suggestions on dosage etc. the only test i have is a bit of sust to add. I was thinking of going 1cc eod primo only just for a maintenance type cycle

[gustavo77]

How many mg/ml is it??

[St]

I did the stuff many times and you need min 300mg a week to get any result,and its very small results you will get.

[SiLvErBaK]

you need at least 300/week a little more would be beneficial, but this is a drug that works best over an extended period of time -- 12 weeks AT LEAST.
Very good drug, eat very high amounts of good quality solid protein and you will notice quite a change in body composition.

[Houstonbc]

mine is only 100mg/ml so yeah i think ill go with 1cc eod

thanks guys

[JonnyO]

A Maintenance cycle? What are you a pro or something? You must have some guest posing spots booked eh in between shows?

Dont waste your time bro, a maintenance cycle is a total waste of gear. Use that time to clean out and stay off the gear, then hit it hard when your well and ready to.

[Turtle]

primo is over rated. too costly. I needed to run 600mg plus a week. So unless your rich and like needles with high volume injects i would go with EQ or something.

[Houstonbc]

Look i said I've had this stuff for awhile and want to use it up and asked the question hoping for some good information. Thanks to the bros who have posted some good info for me as i havent ever ran this drug and yeah this is my choice to run it right now until i receive some other stuff. No sorry im not a pro with guest posings to do but thanks for the solid advice anyways bud. Im just looking to use this stuff up and solidify some new muscle.

[BolicPower]

Not a primo fan. $ to results in my book is not worth for me, but people who use i never hear complaint (unless fake) I will say 400-600mg for optimal gains if you use alone. As you say , if you have use it up .

[JonnyO]

Bro, some people perfer to be "on" most time, we've lot of meembers that's been on 10years + but not pro. just a life style usage. but thats like saying to even do ONE cycle you'r a pro athlete as you dont need gear, people use gear for diffrent things, and if one uses to maintain all the power to him or her, there's no rule bro., we have pro's right down non compettors that on all year, all personal choice, '
like me for instance, if i want to ride on 500mg weeekly when off, then 1000+ when on, thats for me, (not you) and i never found it waist, just something to keep in me, .i never found itt waste, did i gain, well not as much as if i wnent clean then lost weight, THEN regain weight.. i prefer staying on all the time, just to do it, and i can. as most here do.. i dont' put down anyones choice in life.


Well for me I like to plan things properly, and can handle being off the gear unlike alot of people. Whether they can admit it or not, I understand. But I like to get the most out of every cycle I do. So the smarter choice for me would be to stay off the gear in between cycles, then hit it hard. People seem to respond alot better when they going on cycle after being off for a period of time, not continuing a maintenance/bridging cycle. To me that would be a more advanced thing to do if you were an advanced competitor and couldnt afford to take the time off, etc. But for the average user seems pointless and more of a crutch to me. Alot of people are afraid to come off everythign and need to be on something all of the time because they shrivel up when they are off. I dont have that problem, sure I lose some of that muscle fullness and the great pump you get when on, but I dont need to rely on it and I can maintain just fine being clean. If you cant do that naturally, you need to step back take take a look at what your doing wrong.

No offence to the starter of the thread and my appology for the smart ass first reply.

I been lifting for 17 years, competing for the last 5. I know how my body works, when I need a break and when to go on. What works and what doesnt work. A Primo only cycle for a maintenance cycle seems just a waste to me because anyone shuld be able to maintain without using anything. The purpose of using gear, no matter what amount or type, is to make gains---->Plain and simple.

[Rrrrolla]

Bro, some people perfer to be "on" most time, we've lot of meembers that's been on 10years + but not pro. just a life style usage. but thats like saying to even do ONE cycle you'r a pro athlete as you dont need gear, people use gear for diffrent things, and if one uses to maintain all the power to him or her, there's no rule bro., we have pro's right down non compettors that on all year, all personal choice, '
like me for instance, if i want to ride on 500mg weeekly when off, then 1000+ when on, thats for me, (not you) and i never found it waist, just something to keep in me, .i never found itt waste, did i gain, well not as much as if i wnent clean then lost weight, THEN regain weight.. i prefer staying on all the time, just to do it, and i can. as most here do.. i dont' put down anyones choice in life.

I do exactly what you do. I feel better while on, not depressed and I can easily afford it. If cycling on and off is better, than go for it, but I like to live my life happy and feeling like I want to go to the gym. I have depression issues when I come off too, so in my books, it's not worth comeing off for a bit better gains (if that's even true, I have no problem getting alot bigger every year and I've been on for several years now, could be the gh and igf, I dont know!).

[JonnyO]

I do exactly what you do. I feel better while on, not depressed and I can easily afford it. If cycling on and off is better, than go for it, but I like to live my life happy and feeling like I want to go to the gym. I have depression issues when I come off too, so in my books, it's not worth comeing off for a bit better gains (if that's even true, I have no problem getting alot bigger every year and I've been on for several years now, could be the gh and igf, I dont know!).

Do you know if you had depression issues before you used gear? Just curious bro.

[Rrrrolla]

Do you know if you had depression issues before you used gear? Just curious bro.


Yes, I was on a host of different anti depressants before I started using stuff. I have no need for any of that stuff now though. If I came off though, I would be messed up I think. I don't know for sure, I'm not taking the chance.

[guest]

Well for me I like to plan things properly, and can handle being off the gear unlike alot of people. Whether they can admit it or not, I understand. But I like to get the most out of every cycle I do. So the smarter choice for me would be to stay off the gear in between cycles, then hit it hard. People seem to respond alot better when they going on cycle after being off for a period of time, not continuing a maintenance/bridging cycle. To me that would be a more advanced thing to do if you were an advanced competitor and couldnt afford to take the time off, etc. But for the average user seems pointless and more of a crutch to me. Alot of people are afraid to come off everythign and need to be on something all of the time because they shrivel up when they are off. I dont have that problem, sure I lose some of that muscle fullness and the great pump you get when on, but I dont need to rely on it and I can maintain just fine being clean. If you cant do that naturally, you need to step back take take a look at what your doing wrong.

No offence to the starter of the thread and my appology for the smart ass first reply.

I been lifting for 17 years, competing for the last 5. I know how my body works, when I need a break and when to go on. What works and what doesnt work. A Primo only cycle for a maintenance cycle seems just a waste to me because anyone shuld be able to maintain without using anything. The purpose of using gear, no matter what amount or type, is to make gains---->Plain and simple.

excellent post, actual 'bodybuilders' would be wise to heed that advice. i have seen JonnyO on stage and the results speak for themselves. others that do juice for fun or are addicted....well, you are not really abiding by a plan or adhering to a bigger picture anyway so it really doesnt apply to you.

[RJ*]

id sell the primo and buy some eq

[Houstonbc]

too late now!

It angers me a bit that i put up a post here looking for advice on the best way to use a certain compound and get some smart ass bullsh-t comments. No offence to you bro but thats the type of stuff that turns alot of people off these boards. If you think I'm not planning on "making gains" off of this you are wrong guy. sorry maybe my term "maintenance cycle" got you a bit twisted what i meant was a light cycle to tighten up and gain some more muscle maturity.

[Rrrrolla]

I compete, and plan to be at the National level very soon. I don't come off cause it's bad for me psychologically, I have made tremendous gains by eating right and cycling in the right compounds at the right time. I don't know where you guys are coming from saying you have to come off to make great gains. I completely disagree, but maybe you guys know something I don't know. It's a win/win situation if you ask me. I don't know what kinda gains you guys make in the run of a year, but gains have way more to do with diet than gear anyways, I would challenge anyone on this site to prove they made better gains than me since I have started to stay on full time. I have a 4 year progress pic posted on CJM, 3 of which I did not come off steroids. Anyways, doesn't really matter, food and consistency is the key, not juice, juice is the easy part of being a bodybulder, and serious bb'er knows that.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

i'd think you'd need at leeast 4-6hunred a week to notice... GOOD result... i'ts a good steroid but just not so noticable for me . eat rght, and you'll see some gains if you stack with sus

I agree and HI MONKA!!!

As for me i cycle eq and winny thoughout spring and summer, and in the winter its test,deca,dbol. I come off steroids about 3 months out of the year around august to nov.

[St]

too late now!

It angers me a bit that i put up a post here looking for advice on the best way to use a certain compound and get some smart ass bullsh-t comments. No offence to you bro but thats the type of stuff that turns alot of people off these boards. If you think I'm not planning on "making gains" off of this you are wrong guy. sorry maybe my term "maintenance cycle" got you a bit twisted what i meant was a light cycle to tighten up and gain some more muscle maturity.

Ya i seen some people come and go from many sites,but take it from me i know a very good bro here in town and all the guy is on is 300-400mg a week of Primo and he looks about the best shape and size out of my people i know,only wish this guy would compete,and before the primo he was fat and bloated(eq&dbol).He put on some major size over the past couple of years from many long cycles of just primo,not the cheapest compound gear to be taking.Everytime i see this guy all i want to take is just Primo for a cycle.

[Houstonbc]

Right on cant wait to see how this works for me i got a bit too sloppy for my liking a little fat and bloated so its time to take care of business

[Houstonbc]

too sloppy from my last bulking cycle i forgot to type in sust deca and way too much of the wrong foods

[JonnyO]

what i meant was a light cycle to tighten up and gain some more muscle maturity.

You dont need Primo to do that. Mature muscle comes with time. And diet and cardio will tighten you up.


I don't know where you guys are coming from saying you have to come off to make great gains.

Not sure where that was said. We all know that's not true. But physiologically speaking, time off doesnt hurt. No offence, you havent been off for a long time, so you don't really know if the gains you have made would be better the way your doing it or not. But your reasoning for not coming off as previously stated was valid. Coming off for me is also to get my vitals back in check. After a long contest cycle it messes everything up big time, I want to get my ldl/hdl back to normal, blood pressure in check, resting heart rate to normal, liver and renal values back to a normal level, etc, etc. I personally, and many other's I know and train, respond alot better to drugs after being off for a while. And it makes sense. Say you "maintain" on 500mg a week of test, how much are you going to need to have a productive test only cycle??? 750mg? I dont think so, now that would be like only taking in 250mg if you did come off.


food and consistency is the key, not juice, juice is the easy part of being a bodybulder, and serious bb'er knows that.

Bingo!!!


I would challenge anyone on this site to prove they made better gains than me since I have started to stay on full time.

Kevin Levrone, lol.

[Houstonbc]

I realize i dont NEED it to do this. You have totally misunderstood everything i have posted on this thread man. Im not new to this stuff at all ive been at it for 10 yrs now the last 5 very serious. thanks for the posts anyways bro