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Milehi
26-01-2010, 12:17 AM
Any thoughts on gaining muscle mass and losing the gut at the same time or should a person concentrate on just one at a time.
My stomach is currently sticking out an inch from my chest if I stand relaxed and look sideways in the mirror with out flexing.

I had a six pack all through my 20's but in my 40's now and the gut is expanding.... lol

My measurments are.
Chest 42 (with lats flexed)
Arms 13 3/4
Waist 37 3/4
Thighs 21 3/4

5' 9'' 167lbs


Thanks guys

#8
26-01-2010, 12:45 AM
i think they can be accomplished simultaneously absolutely. dont aim for a calorie deficit but eat MORE of the right foods and you can build SOME mass and burn fat at the same time. you wont turn into a body builder but you can transform your physique with both goals in mind.

Keep your carbs low to moderate, and try to keep their consumption near your training times (ie. before and immediately after). this will help your body burn fat and still replenish some glycogen to build a modest amount of strength and size.

every 1lb of muscle you add to your frame burns 50 add calories per day just for being there. you will transform your body's metabolism to one that wants to burn fat when you consume the RIGHT foods, and plenty of them.

Lots of raw veggies, and whole wheat everything. Lean meats and properly timed meals make a huge difference. Good luck.

Milehi
26-01-2010, 01:06 AM
Thanks for the info.
Carbs before a workout is something I forgot about, I used to do that years ago with oatmeal before a workout.

Ciao

chiplin
28-01-2010, 01:52 PM
Just be aware that you won't see a significant increase in size because the calorie deficit required to lose the gut/fat is a perfect contrast in the extra calories you need to build muscle. Good luck, be patient !

Delt King
28-01-2010, 01:59 PM
You're going to have mediocre results trying to train for both at the same time. Since you're not looking to be huge, concentrate your efforts toward one goal at a time.

natenator
28-01-2010, 02:13 PM
You're going to have mediocre results trying to train for both at the same time. Since you're not looking to be huge, concentrate your efforts toward one goal at a time.
agreed.

Talo
28-01-2010, 02:21 PM
I do agree that you should focus on one goal at a time , but if you eat right ( even at a surplus ) and try to control your insulin levels ( get rid of the whites )you should be able to lose that gut or atleast a few inches. If your looking for a six pack ( which I'm sure you are ) then you would be better focusing on lowering your calories and trying to maintain as much muscle as you wont be able to add NEW muscle while in a deflict.

natenator
28-01-2010, 03:11 PM
I do agree that you should focus on one goal at a time , but if you eat right ( even at a surplus ) and try to control your insulin levels ( get rid of the whites )you should be able to lose that gut or atleast a few inches. If your looking for a six pack ( which I'm sure you are ) then you would be better focusing on lowering your calories and trying to maintain as much muscle as you wont be able to add NEW muscle while in a deflict.
are you sure he won't be able to add NEW muscle while in a deficit? lol

Talo
28-01-2010, 03:23 PM
I don't see how it's possible to add new muscle while your body isin't getting enough cals to grow.

You may look bigger and think your putting on muscle , but I don't see it.

And yes my spelling and grammer suck , but I'm ok with that :)

natenator
28-01-2010, 03:35 PM
I don't see how it's possible to add new muscle while your body isin't getting enough cals to grow.

You may look bigger and think your putting on muscle , but I don't see it.

And yes my spelling and grammer suck , but I'm ok with that :)
just playing dude. I agree with you but there are a few here who believe otherwise and that's cool. To each their own :D

Talo
28-01-2010, 03:46 PM
Yeah , I had a feeling you agreed . Some of the posts you put up told me that :)

It still baffles me that people think they can do both. Usually they end up quitting all together , because they think their getting smaller , lol .

tiramisu
28-01-2010, 06:47 PM
.... are you guys saying that just because I dropped 10 pounds in the last 3 weeks I shouldn't expect my deadlift to go up and to maybe put on an extra 5 pounds of muscle?

woo hoo!!!! phhhhhht!!! Sorry, I couldn't help myself people often believe the oddests things.

With 13" arms and a 37" waist on a 42" chest I wouldn't be surprised if the original poster saw some measure of body recomposition during the first 12-16 weeks. The chest girth suggests he is undermuscled and overfat. A solid workout program and a cleaned up diet can do some pretty remarkable things in the first 3-4 months.

After that I would say yes he should pick a direction but for the first 4 months a general conditioning program and a good workout routine will make him both less fat and much stronger. I wouldn't be shocked if his body puts meat on and takes fat off during this period and I would clean the existing diet up (remove crap) rather than go on a restrictive diet to start.

JacktheThriller
28-01-2010, 07:14 PM
do a clean bulk start with 200 or 300 cals above maintenaince and then once you have some muscle on you frame losing weight will become that much easier due to you increased metabolism you can eat more food while dieting, dieting now would be like 2000 cals to 1500 cals and u would be hungry all the time