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Sean
21-02-2008, 09:43 PM
All these years I thought it was possible to get real LEGIT Human Grade Gear off these INT sources! I was one who only used HG gear (Except for Tren ect.) and stood behind that. I honestly don't believe you can get Legit REAL HG gear without paying huge amounts for it and not from those Int sources.

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First he sells (Human Grade) knock offs silently and now he's selling HG & UG knock offs and letting everyone know it. He said something when he first came out about the knock offs. He said they all are and you'd have to dig deep to find REAL LEGIT HUMAN GRADE GEAR (I believe he was being honest). Alot of his knock offs are amazingly REAL Looking. I am officially done with buying supposibly HG gear. Now people can buy this crap and rip off there customers under the guise of real LEGIT HG Gear. UNF#CKIN BELIEVIBLE!!

SiLvErBaK
21-02-2008, 09:53 PM
un*$%&*believable is right

it's bull#$%^

gustavo77
21-02-2008, 09:57 PM
That' sucks so f**kin' bad...with all the UG's gone and now all the fake HG, we have no where left to turn to. All thanks to the US government. They have done such a wonderful thing...taken all the gear away and left all the coke and heroin on the streets...great job, great f**kin' job guys.

champcar99
21-02-2008, 10:39 PM
Don't forget the meth....love that stuff...I am getting huge from the shit..Teeth never been whiter...face never been clearer...dumpster's never been roomier, Life's good..

Mr Ontario
21-02-2008, 11:09 PM
Are you talking about british dispensary or dragon? Dragon has come and gone and people know now not to buy that stuff unless you really know your source.

Mr Ontario
21-02-2008, 11:17 PM
Seems like everyone is still talking about this same scammer...old news...

JonnyO
21-02-2008, 11:40 PM
You want some Human Grade gear? I'll give you some!!!

Sean
22-02-2008, 12:04 AM
Seems like everyone is still talking about this same scammer...old news...

No it's new news. You can now sell HG knock offs on some of these boards. Times are definitely changing, other boards from about 6 months and on all define a scammer as someone who sells KNOCKOFFS. However, the twist is he's admitting selling knock offs. Was all the gear I've purchased from different suppliers REAL? I mean are these sources walking out of these factories with thousands upon thousands of vials? Or buying Thousands of vials from the factory or Pharmacy? I think not! Logic tells me they make most of them because that's where the money is. Think about it, some sources sell 100 vials for as low as $2/Vial? Simply lower the dosage add oil and BAM, the money factory begins.. I'm sure there is one or two people selling legit products but IMHO I think it's a very thin line. I too have purchased fake HG gear and looking back on it pisses me off.

Sean
22-02-2008, 12:06 AM
You want some Human Grade gear? I'll give you some!!!

Yup, you can buy the Amp makers, Pill presses, Blister machines, you name it you can get it.

Mr.Freeze
22-02-2008, 12:07 AM
You want some Human Grade gear? I'll give you some!!!

LMAO tell them!!

Kronis
22-02-2008, 12:13 AM
You want some Human Grade gear? I'll give you some!!!

Wow, never seen that before. Didn't know it was that simple to load gear in ampules.

Houstonbc
22-02-2008, 01:38 AM
this clown needs a swift kick to the teeth

Dr.Dose
22-02-2008, 06:02 AM
About half the sources sell counterfits without even knowing this themselves. Some of these guys that sell they know that they are selling fakes as they have been told, but they still do as they know that you will not find this out! Counterfits have come a long way around. These days they are not just amps or vials filled with nothing in there. Guys that are making these counterfits now know that they will have a much longer run if they put something in there so the counterfit works. These days, I will tell you one thing. If you want to use gear, you better know your stuff inside out! There is fewer and fewer loyal people left in this business now and if a source can rip you off for that extra dollar and make 10,000 extra on 10,000 amps sold he will! Do not get me wrong, real stuff is still around and it always will be. But so it fake/counterfit stuff and it is much easier to get as well ;-). I see some of these open sources sell product left and right to people and I know it is 100% counterfit yet the feedback is great on the stuff and the source. So if you want to stop this, then educate yourself about it! But then again who wants to put all that time and effort into this, right? ;-).

MassNutrition
22-02-2008, 09:44 PM
That' sucks so f**kin' bad...with all the UG's gone and now all the fake HG, we have no where left to turn to. All thanks to the US government. They have done such a wonderful thing...taken all the gear away and left all the coke and heroin on the streets...great job, great f**kin' job guys.

Who says all the UG's are gone? There are a few AWESOME domestic UG's still around that KNOW how to run a business... quietly, effectively, and without GREED. That's why they don't get caught. I have used the same source for years and I have never been disappointed with their shit... no underdosing, no greed.

gustavo77
22-02-2008, 10:04 PM
Who says all the ******** There are a few AWESOME ********* still around that KNOW how to run a business... quietly, effectively, and without GREED. That's why they don't get caught. I have used the same source for years and I have never been disappointed with their shit... no underdosing, no greed.


Why don;t you go on TV and announce it bro or call your local newspaper and have them write a story on it....this is the reason why all the UG's are now GONE because of all the posts like this on open boards!!!

applesauce
23-02-2008, 03:13 AM
calm down gustavo

he didnt drop lab names or any source info or **** all

you think LE is really stupid enough to believe that UG's are gone? at least give them some credit

regardless. the people that get popped are the flamboyant open-source posters that solicit rookies on internet boards. those are usually the same people that ship international and have no regard for privacy. THOSE are the people that got nailed, and will get nailed over and over again

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 03:38 AM
calm down gustavo

he didnt drop lab names or any source info or **** all

you think LE is really stupid enough to believe that UG's are gone? at least give them some credit

regardless. the people that get popped are the flamboyant open-source posters that solicit rookies on internet boards. those are usually the same people that ship international and have no regard for privacy. THOSE are the people that got nailed, and will get nailed over and over again

Let me just refer you to board rule #9: "No UG Lab discussion allowed anymore." Notice carefully it does not say "no UG lab name discussion", nor "no UG lab source discussion" etc. It clearly says NO UG LAB DISCUSSION PERIOD.

And who the f**k are you to tell me to calm down bud?? Many good bros got pinched, not because they were selling to rookies and not because they were not keeping other's and their own security in mind but because the laws of the land and the focus of LE is in the wrong place. The governments of the US and Canada cannot win the war on drugs, nor the war on terror so they need to take down easy targets to blind people from their absolute failure to keep people safe from illicit drugs and the real criminals....

You are certainly entitled to your own opinion but don't come at me when all i am trying to do is remind people of the rules and their responsibility to keep themselves and their peers on this board safe.

MuSuLPhReAk
23-02-2008, 09:53 AM
Guys, no need to get mad and fight. We are all in this together and together we will try to find the safest way to go on with our chosen lifestyles. Just be wary when you speak of UG labs. We don't need to attract any unwanted attention here. There are no more UG labs on the net, meaning the aren't around here. There will always be guys selling UG stuff via emails, sites, and streets. But we just don't want them here as that is what will lead to law enforcment coming in and giving us a headache we all don't want. If you have your source, keep him and protect him at all costs. Do not pass his name around in emails, pm's, on the street etc. You'll only get him busted eventually and at the same time put yourself in danger. Safest way is to find someone in your gym with access to the stuff. Saving a few bucks online will not result in the thousands you will have to pay for a lawyer, lost work, stress, if you get busted.

Keep yourself, and the boards safe and we'll all be around for years and years to come. Our reason to be here is to share our info and knowledge on bodybuilding. Not to find sources or discuss which UG lab has what and which is better. Times have changed and not everyone knows that yet. With a bit of patience, we'll all get along and do things in a safe and legal manner. No need to fight while we get to that point.

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 12:57 PM
You are right MP and I apologize if I offended anyone. I just believe that we need to be diligent in keeping ourselves and our bros online safe. Again i am sorry i wigged out...peace.

Mr Ontario
23-02-2008, 12:59 PM
It's a bodybuilding board..............Don't be a wimp...no need to apologize for stating your view......



You are right MP and I apologize if I offended anyone. I just believe that we need to be diligent in keeping ourselves and our bros online safe. Again i am sorry i wigged out...peace.

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 03:18 PM
It's a bodybuilding board..............Don't be a wimp...no need to apologize for stating your view......

I wasn;t apologizing for my opinion or view bro but simply the way i expressed it...I was a little cranky last night. In any case i do stand by my post, UG discussion should be kept off the boards for all of our safety.

Mr Ontario
23-02-2008, 07:34 PM
lol I was just busting your balls like Fergie's.... I was J/K


I wasn;t apologizing for my opinion or view bro but simply the way i expressed it...I was a little cranky last night. In any case i do stand by my post, UG discussion should be kept off the boards for all of our safety.

bigdaddydrew123
23-02-2008, 07:36 PM
lol I was just busting your balls like Fergie's.... I was J/Kis that an apology

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 07:38 PM
lol I was just busting your balls like Fergie's.... I was J/K

I know bro, i know....a good ball busting is healthy once in a while..lol.

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 07:38 PM
is that an apology

You're dam right that was. He knows who the big dog is...lmao.

Mr Ontario
23-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Sure why not...his Avatar is bigger then mine. lol :)


is that an apology

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 08:47 PM
Sure why not...his Avatar is bigger then mine. lol :)

Yes it is....lol.

Mr Ontario
23-02-2008, 10:00 PM
K Will were going to call you Mr Big Shot from now on.....I will find a new title. lol :)


Yes it is....lol.

gustavo77
23-02-2008, 10:07 PM
K Will were going to call you Mr Big Shot from now on.....I will find a new title. lol :)

I actually prefer the Big Kahuna or the Big Lebowski...:D

MassNutrition
23-02-2008, 10:12 PM
Let's see... would it be wrong to mention roid rage too? That was a perfect example if I've ever seen one...

...UG labs exist, plain and simple. I don't give a **** who they are, where they come from, or what they do. All I did was point out a simple fact that EVERYONE already knows anyway...

...and btw, you apologized to the wrong guy.

srt8
24-02-2008, 02:45 PM
Who says all the UG's are gone? There are a few AWESOME domestic UG's still around that KNOW how to run a business... quietly, effectively, and without GREED. That's why they don't get caught. I have used the same source for years and I have never been disappointed with their shit... no underdosing, no greed.

list me douche bag.

gustavo77
24-02-2008, 06:23 PM
Let's see... would it be wrong to mention roid rage too? That was a perfect example if I've ever seen one...

...UG labs exist, plain and simple. I don't give a **** who they are, where they come from, or what they do. All I did was point out a simple fact that EVERYONE already knows anyway...

...and btw, you apologized to the wrong guy.

Roid rage, ya ok buddy, i see that you are up on the latest, sensationalized, misconceptions regarding gear.

Yes, UG labs do exist but continuing to discuss it over and over on open boards does nothing but put everyones safety at risk, hence the board rules bud...

...by the way you can suck that apology out of my a**..

Sean
24-02-2008, 08:16 PM
About half the sources sell counterfits without even knowing this themselves. Some of these guys that sell they know that they are selling fakes as they have been told, but they still do as they know that you will not find this out! Counterfits have come a long way around. These days they are not just amps or vials filled with nothing in there. Guys that are making these counterfits now know that they will have a much longer run if they put something in there so the counterfit works. These days, I will tell you one thing. If you want to use gear, you better know your stuff inside out! There is fewer and fewer loyal people left in this business now and if a source can rip you off for that extra dollar and make 10,000 extra on 10,000 amps sold he will! Do not get me wrong, real stuff is still around and it always will be. But so it fake/counterfit stuff and it is much easier to get as well ;-). I see some of these open sources sell product left and right to people and I know it is 100% counterfit yet the feedback is great on the stuff and the source. So if you want to stop this, then educate yourself about it! But then again who wants to put all that time and effort into this, right? ;-).

I hear ya Dr.D. I think now and maybe even then there is alot more fakes being sold then there is real legit gear IMHO. I know there are guys selling legit gear, but it is alot of work (Especially now a days) in Identifying what's real and what's not. The fakes are almost identicle in appearance. The shocker is now a guy can put up a banner saying "I'm selling Knock offs" on those source boards. I have a major problem with this, and I would think the community would stop this. Again money and greed will prevail...

As for UG lab talk, ya it's best kept off the boards. Too much fighting on these sites about who has the best this or buddy put down that ect.. It just draws to much attention. Let's keep everyone safe and get along.

By the way, if anyone feels left out you could always join my team:D (I'm the guy with the hand on his stomach)

Mr Ontario
24-02-2008, 08:18 PM
Looks like a Pride Parade!?


I hear ya Dr.D. I think now and maybe even then there is alot more fakes being sold then there is real legit gear IMHO. I know there are guys selling legit gear, but it is alot of work (Especially now a days) in Identifying what's real and what's not. The fakes are almost identicle in appearance. The shocker is now a guy can put up a banner saying "I'm selling Knock offs" on those source boards. I have a major problem with this, and I would think the community would stop this. Again money and greed will prevail...

As for UG lab talk, ya it's best kept off the boards. Too much fighting on these sites about who has the best this or buddy put down that ect.. It just draws to much attention. Let's keep everyone safe and get along.

By the way, if anyone feels left out you could always join my team:D (I'm the guy with the hand on his stomach)

Mr Ontario
24-02-2008, 08:19 PM
and I heard that is a big ass at that! :)



Roid rage, ya ok buddy, i see that you are up on the latest, sensationalized, misconceptions regarding gear.

Yes, UG labs do exist but continuing to discuss it over and over on open boards does nothing but put everyones safety at risk, hence the board rules bud...

...by the way you can suck that apology out of my a**..