GH + T3 or not ?

[N2J]

guys, quick question, I am about to start a neutropin AQ GH cycle at 2 IUs per day probably will put include the 4-5 iu`s of insulin after my workouts, someone recommened me taking 25 mcg of cytomel with my GH, my goal here is to gain mass so would the cytomel be any beneficial ??
Thanks!

[daande]

guys, quick question, I am about to start a neutropin AQ GH cycle at 2 IUs per day probably will put include the 4-5 iu`s of insulin after my workouts, someone recommened me taking 25 mcg of cytomel with my GH, my goal here is to gain mass so would the cytomel be any beneficial ??
Thanks!

I don't think cytomel would be of any benefit for trying to gain mass.

[N2J]

what if it would be for trying to lean out ? would it be THAT much more beneficial??

[daande]

what if it would be for trying to lean out ? would it be THAT much more beneficial??

Using T3 is beneficial when trying to lean out. You have to do a slow ramp up and a slow ramp down, when using it. It won't really help though if you arent on a calorie deficient or keto diet plus doing cardio.

[theboss]

first of all...

2iu of GH wont help you gain mass......T3 wont either...you will be burning fat..and without AAS possibly muscle.

stats and experience please...and while you are at it post of your diet.

[N2J]

my diet wont be contest like but very very clean as usual....

roughly 6 meals a day, an easy 300 gr of protein with clean carbs....

be running with tren which I always love along with test and maybe some masteron ....... giving dostinex a try for the first time too.....

Ive ran UG and chinease GH before and always had great results mainly on the fat loss and skin condition.... this time Im treating myself a little....Ive heard so many great things about HG GH....

we'll see what happens

[daande]

my diet wont be contest like but very very clean as usual....

roughly 6 meals a day, an easy 300 gr of protein with clean carbs....

be running with tren which I always love along with test and maybe some masteron ....... giving dostinex a try for the first time too.....

Ive ran UG and chinease GH before and always had great results mainly on the fat loss and skin condition.... this time Im treating myself a little....Ive heard so many great things about HG GH....

we'll see what happens

How long are you running the GH for? I also don't think you will notice anything in terms of muscle gains due to only running 2iu/day. I think you would be more beneficial to not use it at 2iu a day and save more money and try to run it at 5-6iu/day. But I am not an expert on GH. I have also read that you need to run it for atleast six months.

[juced_porkchop]

How long are you running the GH for? I also don't think you will notice anything in terms of muscle gains due to only running 2iu/day. I think you would be more beneficial to not use it at 2iu a day and save more money and try to run it at 5-6iu/day. But I am not an expert on GH. I have also read that you need to run it for atleast six months.

bumppp!

yoru probibly better with the chinise HGH and doubleing the dose in terms of $ and gains. (if its good hgh)

[N2J]

Yeah chinease GH isnt has reliable anymore, Ive ran GH at 2 IUs before and what I find is that with enough calories you make lean gains without adding the bodyfat that a normal bulk would do..... plus the muscle seems to be fuller all the time....,.
the only thing with CND GH is that it`s pricy !!!!

[oldcanada]

"The average cycle of HGH is 5 to 8 months with 1 to 2 daily injections. For this time period it is usually used 7 days a week, then tapered off to either a 5 on 2 days off or a 6 on one day off schedule. It has a shelf life of about 30 to 45 minutes and peak blood concentrations in the body are recognized about 2 to 6 hours after injection. For quick fat loss, a cycle of 4 weeks is generally used.The amount of HGH to take varies. It really all depends on the individual. For anti aging and and fat metabolization, 2 to 3 IUs a day is generally used, and for substantially increasing lean muscle mass and body composition, a minimum of 4 to 8 IUs is taken. For the greatest anabolic results, it is not uncommon to take amounts as high as 10 to 12 IUs per day."

So if you are using to bulk and get huge....you need other gear ie. Test is best. T3 is a waste and added danger when on HGH, Fat burning is the first thing you will see when using HGH. When used with higher amounts of Test, you will see a good size gain.

[rickyboy36]

guys, quick question, I am about to start a neutropin AQ GH cycle at 2 IUs per day probably will put include the 4-5 iu`s of insulin after my workouts, someone recommened me taking 25 mcg of cytomel with my GH, my goal here is to gain mass so would the cytomel be any beneficial ??
Thanks!

Yes..Ive heard this on numerous boards that when taking GH or insulin it can help although it isnt "necessary".There are two reasons:1..its helps with protein synthesis and second HGH can have a slight inhibitory effect on your thyroid. For most people this is minimal and does not require any additional thyroid be taken, but if you wish to augment protein synthesis as well as give yourself a slight metabolic boost in thyroid without shutting down your own production, you can add 12.5 to 25mcg of T3 daily to your stack.

[Praetorian]

Yes..Ive heard this on numerous boards that when taking GH or insulin it can help although it isnt "necessary".There are two reasons:1..its helps with protein synthesis and second HGH can have a slight inhibitory effect on your thyroid. For most people this is minimal and does not require any additional thyroid be taken, but if you wish to augment protein synthesis as well as give yourself a slight metabolic boost in thyroid without shutting down your own production, you can add 12.5 to 25mcg of T3 daily to your stack.

Actually Gh does not inhibit thyroid....what it does is increase the T4 to T3 conversion rate...thus you will end up with lower T4 (inactive thyroid) but an increase in T3 (active thyroid). By doing blood work you will see a decrease in TSH levels....this is most often interpreted as low thyroid when in essence low TSH (thyroid stimulatiing hormone) means an overall increase in thyroid. By addding T3 to the mix the hypothalmus will sense yet another increase in T3 and thru the feedback loop will drop T4 production and T4 to T3 conversion.
If you were looking to raise thyroid slightly without running into feedback loop issues then you could add a bit of T4 to allow more to be available for conversion to T3 via the GH.
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