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muskate
22-01-2010, 07:43 PM
anyone ever try this stuff? what were your experiences? would you use it again?

Ritch
24-01-2010, 07:31 PM
I think someone made a thread on this product once. I don`t think anybody even tried it, so as far as I can recall there`s no feedback on that product around here.

But the ingredients are a complete mysetery to me:

60 Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size1Capsule
Servings Per Container60

Humanofort™ 100mg †
Embryonic Peptide Matrix Yielding Naturally Occurring IGF-1, IGF-2, FGF (Fibroblast Growth Factors), NGF (Nerve Growth Factors), EGF (Epidermal Growth Factors), CTGF (Connective Tissue Growth Factors).

† Daily Value not established



Green to anybody who can explain to me what the hell those ingredients are.

muskate
24-01-2010, 08:32 PM
ive found a couple of reviews on bodybuilding.com, promuscle and what not. every review is very positive. im debating to give it a try or not.

seems like probably just another overhypered supplement but you never know. dunno if i want to blow 25 bucks on a jar

Timbo89
24-01-2010, 10:23 PM
Fibroblast growth factors, or FGFs, are a family of growth factors involved in angiogenesis, wound healing, and embryonic development. The FGFs are heparin-binding proteins and interactions with cell-surface associated heparan sulfate proteoglycans have been shown to be essential for FGF signal transduction. FGFs are key players in the processes of proliferation and differentiation of wide variety of cells and tissues.

Nerve growth factor (NGF), is a small secreted protein which is important for the growth, maintenance, and survival of certain target neurons (nerve cells). It also functions as a signaling molecule.[1][2] It is perhaps the prototypical growth factor, in that it is one of the first to be described. While "nerve growth factor" refers to a single factor,[3] "nerve growth factors" refers to a family of factors also known as neurotrophins.[4] Other members of the neurotrophin family that are well recognized include Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF), Neurotrophin-3 (NT-3), and Neurotrophin 4/5 (NT-4/5).

EGF results in cellular proliferation, differentiation, and survival.[5] EGF is a low-molecular-weight polypeptide first purified from the mouse submandibular gland, but since then found in many human tissues including submandibular gland, parotid gland. Salivary EGF, which seems also regulated by dietary inorganic iodine, also plays an important physiological role in the maintenance of oro-esophageal and gastric tissue integrity. The biological effects of salivary EGF include healing of oral and gastroesophageal ulcers, inhibition of gastric acid secretion, stimulation of DNA synthesis as well as mucosal protection from intraluminal injurious factors such as gastric acid, bile acids, pepsin, and trypsin and to physical, chemical and bacterial agents.[6]

CTGF (connective tissue growth factor) is a cysteine-rich, matrix-associated, heparin-binding protein. In vitro, CTGF mirrors some of the effects of TGF beta on skin fibroblasts, such as stimulation of extracellular matrix production, chemotaxis, proliferation and integrin expression. CTGF can promote endothelial cell growth, migration, adhesion and survival and is thus implicated in endothelial cell function and angiogenesis[1].



I got all of this from wiki. Hope it helps.

warlock
24-01-2010, 10:44 PM
Emeric Deczegh send the stuff to me.

He is the guy that supplies Labrada.

The only real difference that I felt was improved sleep quality.

I have long lasting adrenal issues and that stuff should help but I saw no great improvement.


Emeric send a some info sometime ago and the science behind it and the claims are congruent but at the end of the day what really matters is how your body reacts to a certain compound therefore if I where you I'd try the product and keep my expectations low and after one month reevaluate.

Good luck

Ritch
25-01-2010, 12:13 AM
Keep in mind if you decide to use this product, you`ll need 2 bottles a month if you weigh over 200lbs. That`s going to cost you $60 for one month. Seems pricey to me.

But seeking feedback on products is a good thing, but don`t forget muskate, most the guys on bodybuilding.com (at least from what I see in their avatars ) are not big. Plus most have used and use pro hormones to get to that level of size. A level which is not even close to being impressive, the fact they used prohormones makes them even less impressive. So any reviews they have to say, I`d take lightly to say the least...