Mixing Milk with Whey Protein?

[Paully25]

I generally have 2 protein shakes a day (one PWO, the other mid afternoon), and am wondering if I'm losing any effectiveness/harming my ability to reach my goal of losing weight? What's your opinion? I am using skim milk FWIW.

Appreciate any advice/insight.

[GYMBRAT]

I use skim/1% milk, or water mostly and never had an issue thus far

[Ritch]

When losing fat you want to eliminate useless calories, especially liquid one`s. I wouldn`t mix the whey in milk. You could easily take over 200 cals out of your diet by taking out the milk.

[519Muscle]

u should not add milk to ur pwo shake it will take alot longer to absorb the protein.

[btufts]

Takes a lot longer to absorb just mix with water. I cut out milk all together as I've read we can't even process milk as adults

[Paully25]

When losing fat you want to eliminate useless calories, especially liquid one`s. I wouldn`t mix the whey in milk. You could easily take over 200 cals out of your diet by taking out the milk.

I DO find I feel more full after milk, but I'll go with water based on some of the advice here - especially post-workout. Thanks guys.

[Delt King]

If you're trying to build muscle i'd keep the milk in the shake on the one that isn't post workout. The reason being to slow down the absorption rate. The opposite is wanted PWO---quick absorption.

[Paully25]

If you're trying to build muscle i'd keep the milk in the shake on the one that isn't post workout. The reason being to slow down the absorption rate. The opposite is wanted PWO---quick absorption.

I am trying to build muscle, but my MAIN goal is to lose weight (fat). Would you still recommend that? Thanks DK.

:D

[Delt King]

First Paully you need to figure out which way you're going to go with your diet. In order to lose weight you'll need to run a caloric deficit meaning you're burning more calories than you're consuming forcing your body to utilize your fat stores (stored energy) in order to balance itself out. In this state you won't be able to add new muscle because in essence you're catabolic not anabolic. Your goal would be to maintain your lean body mass.

Now to build you need to be slightly above your daily caloric requirements, so for example if with your metabolic rate plus exercise etc you burn 2500 calories per day then you want to eat around 2700 to 3000 calories in order to build.

[Paully25]

First Paully you need to figure out which way you're going to go with your diet. In order to lose weight you'll need to run a caloric deficit meaning you're burning more calories than you're consuming forcing your body to utilize your fat stores (stored energy) in order to balance itself out. In this state you won't be able to add new muscle because in essence you're catabolic not anabolic. Your goal would be to maintain your lean body mass.

Now to build you need to be slightly above your daily caloric requirements, so for example if with your metabolic rate plus exercise etc you burn 2500 calories per day then you want to eat around 2700 to 3000 calories in order to build.

Ya - I'm running a caloric deficit. I'm using fitday.com to track my diet...that really helps me in not only tracking calories, but also keeping myself accountable. i.e. I know I have to record it, so the guilt factors into my decision making. I guess I should say I want to maintain as much lean mass as I can while I run a deficit to burn fat.

The biggest obstacle I have is my job - outside sales = a few lunches at restaurants a week. On those days, I really try to avoid sodium as restaurant meals are packed with it. Aside from that, I'm pretty good at making healthy choices - egg whites, tuna, chicken, lean beef. I'm not a carb lover, so it's easy to keep starchy foods to a minimum.

[Delt King]

Ya - I'm running a caloric deficit. I'm using fitday.com to track my diet...that really helps me in not only tracking calories, but also keeping myself accountable. i.e. I know I have to record it, so the guilt factors into my decision making. I guess I should say I want to maintain as much lean mass as I can while I run a deficit to burn fat.

The biggest obstacle I have is my job - outside sales = a few lunches at restaurants a week. On those days, I really try to avoid sodium as restaurant meals are packed with it. Aside from that, I'm pretty good at making healthy choices - egg whites, tuna, chicken, lean beef. I'm not a carb lover, so it's easy to keep starchy foods to a minimum.

In that case cut the milk then...
but don;t stress about sodium, you need at least 4grams per day if you're training hard. just make sure to drink 3 litres of water per day.

[Paully25]

In that case cut the milk then...
but don;t stress about sodium, you need at least 4grams per day if you're training hard. just make sure to drink 3 litres of water per day.

Thanks DK!

[jsv22]

u should not add milk to ur pwo shake it will take alot longer to absorb the protein.

although this is technically true, i don't think the effect is going to be that significant (appearance in the blood takes at least 15 mins) and definitely doesn't dictate what is happening at the muscle.

this thread has an article attached that summarizes much of the findings on maximizing muscle protein anabolism....
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5867

"ingestion of full fat whole milk (3.5% milk
fat) postexercise resulted in greater amino acid net
uptake across an exercised leg, suggesting whole milk
is superior to fat-free fluid milk in its ability to build
muscle after exercise [27]."

[GYMBRAT]

good post jvc22! kinda what I was getting at as well..

..AWESOME info DK as always bro!!!!!!