Before you ask your first AAS question...read here

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I've been seeing a lot of threads from beginners asking about their 1st cycle or something along those lines.

CBB takes a more mature approach to solving your "get big" dreams.

Let us see your diet. Let us know your stats, your history with bodybuilding and anything that can help us judge how to help you.

If you're 150lbs, 6'2, training for 3 months. AAS is NOT the way to go. The hardest part of growing is your diet. Take the time to learn how to eat right, what to eat, how much to eat and how to lose fat. Once you got all those basics down and you are comfortable with them, then you should look into the more advanced stuff.

Half the time, you can get to your goals with just a proper diet and dedication. If you can't exactly say how many calories you've eaten today, then already you're being lazy and want to find a shortcut to get big. AAS may get you there but if you don't learn how to eat properly, you'll need AAS to maintain any decent size instead of just plain ol' good food. You'll lose a lot of your gains when off.

[GYMBRAT]

YES! ..A+ MP

[Talo]

Great post.

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[theboss]

werd up MP!

[Delt King]

Well spoken MP. Props

[BDH]

Well spoken MP. Propshttp://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac346/vegastitanic/attractions_titanic_gallery1.jpg

[Delt King]

Boy them are some bigguns. lol ^^

[jshort]

Based on what this beginner has read, their doesn't appear to any special diet needed except to eat lots of protein since many AAS work by increasing protein synthesis.

On the other hand, I've heard of many unhappy side-effects associated with various steroids. Rather than diet, I'd be more interested in what other drugs I should be taking to reduce these. Doctor physicals to see if I'm at particular risk for certain side effects might also be useful (in my case heart disease would possibly be one).

[tiramisu]

Based on what this beginner has read, their doesn't appear to any special diet needed except to eat lots of protein since many AAS work by increasing protein synthesis.

On the other hand, I've heard of many unhappy side-effects associated with various steroids. Rather than diet, I'd be more interested in what other drugs I should be taking to reduce these. Doctor physicals to see if I'm at particular risk for certain side effects might also be useful (in my case heart disease would possibly be one).

Yes that's right all you have to do is eat more protein and take drugs and you'll magically become muscular. Excellent research.

[natenator]

Yes that's right all you have to do is eat more protein and take drugs and you'll magically become muscular. Excellent research.
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[clicker666]

Based on what this beginner has read, their doesn't appear to any special diet needed except to eat lots of protein since many AAS work by increasing protein synthesis.


I think the diet part of the info is required along with body stats. Higher levels of body fat increase the likelihood of estrogenic side effects, because there are more receptors present. I believe that's why people ask for diet and body info - because overweight people are trying to use the AAS to cut from 20+ BF down to 9% and might get difficult to deal with sides like gyno.

The skinny bugger who doesn't know how much he's really eating, might not maximize their initial cycle gains. I'm under the impression, from what I've read, that the first cycle can produce great results if all your ducks are in a row, and that these results might not be as easily reproduced in subsequent cycles.

Granted this is all my personal opinion, based on things I've read, and I'm sure people will correct me if I'm wrong.

[jshort]

Good point.

A quick search on PubMed would seem to suggest that morbidly obese men do appear to have more estrogen.

This is an abstract I read:

Serum estrone (E1) and 17beta-estradiol (E2) were noted to be 2-fold elevated in a group of morbidly obese men. Urinary E1 and E2 production rates were elevated in proportion to the degree of obesity, with values as high as 127 and 157 micrograms/day, respectively. Although serum testosterone (T) concentrations were reduced in obese men, averaging 348 +/- 35 vs. 519 +/- 42 ng/dl in lean controls, the dialyzable T fractions were elevated and, hence, the calculated free T concentrations were normal in obese men. Further, the obese men exhibited normal serum LH, FSH, and T responses to clomiphene citrate, indicating intact hypothalamic-pituitary-Leydig cell axes. MCRs of T and peripheral conversion of T to E2 and androstenedione (delta) to E1 were all increased in obese men in proportion to the percentage above ideal weight. Although the obese mean exhibited increased blood levels and production rates of estrogens, there were no signs of feminization, increased T-estrogen-binding, globulin levels, or suppressed basal gonadotropin levels, suggesting a lack of biological effect. We postulate that obese men exhibit defective estrogen receptors, leading to decreased T-estrogen-binding globulin, increased clearance of androgenic hormones, and elevated estrogen production rates.

[nate]

Great info! Anyone from Ontario here?