Acne.

[Lotto]

Hey guys.

I just finished pct about. 3 weeks ago after a long 20 week test e cycle. I feel great libido is up and I kept literally all my gains. Sitting at around 230 12-15% bf.

I broke out pretty bad on cycle and even worse pct. I've started with b5 on thursday at about 3g a day and has been using benzoyl peroxide on my spots.

Now I want to run a cycle this summer most likely consisting of test prop and winny for my last 6 weeks.

Any suggestions on how to keep acne at bay ? I've read an ai does wonders because of controlling the estrogen levels along the winny this should help .

Please chime In .

[L3]

i got acne even on AI, but my diet was shit. now trying to get rid of it, nizoral daily, started tanning, and using pore cleanser on my face/shoulders... its drying up niceley

[Memo]

i heard nizoral & tersaseptic will get rid of acnee real easy. I am myself using tersa in the morning and nizoral at night before bed and I have close to no acne anymore. Tanning really helped too.

[PdH]

Accutane 20 mg a day. Nuff said.

[kry]

This is what I run through out.

Run B5 3grams
Vitamin c, d
75000iu of Beta Carotene (spelling)?
Multi-Vit
Nizoral Shampoo (every second day 1st shower)
Head and Shoulders 2 in 1 (Dry Scalp (Every day, Second showers)
Tea Tree Shampoo (every other day 1st shower)
Tea Tree oil (spot treatment)
Cetaphil Soap
Cetaphil moisturizer (apply to dry skin everyday, use instead of aftershave)
keep your sheets clean
Shower 2 times per day
exfoliate once per week

Shower immediately after exercise - This is the big one for me. Sweat clogs the pours.

Don't touch your face.

[Memo]

Accutane 20 mg a day. Nuff said.

how bad is accutane at 20mg a day for side effect.

[tiramisu]

Hormonal acne is a bitch. I did a round of accutane @ 40mg a day to bring my last big mistake under control. The body doesn't like big fast changes in either direction. I find that reducing dosages slowly as I come off and increasing dosage slowly as I go on makes a pretty dramatic difference in the acne flare ups.

erythromycin and accutane 40 mg were my big hammer for the cystic acne.

It has little or nothing to do with hygiene so all the cleansing in the world is generally a misguided effort. Not that hygiene is a bad thing or that it won't help with the symptoms but it won't make the acne go away.

[nii]

Hormonal acne is a bitch. I did a round of accutane @ 40mg a day to bring my last big mistake under control.

It has little or nothing to do with hygiene so all the cleansing in the world is generally a misguided effort.

From personal experience this is bang on.

PS - what was the mistake? Was this Pharm accutane?

[tiramisu]

The mistake was 2 grams of test and 700 mg of tren.

[dremen]

The mistake was 2 grams of test and 700 mg of tren.

WOW bro lots of gear, but me likes....lol;)

[icey_boi]

Take 5-8 grams of fish oils a day.
I find i break out less when im taking a few fish oil caps with every meal.
I dont know this works for me but it realy does seem to help.

[z83]

Hormonal acne is a bitch. I did a round of accutane @ 40mg a day to bring my last big mistake under control. The body doesn't like big fast changes in either direction. I find that reducing dosages slowly as I come off and increasing dosage slowly as I go on makes a pretty dramatic difference in the acne flare ups.

erythromycin and accutane 40 mg were my big hammer for the cystic acne.

It has little or nothing to do with hygiene so all the cleansing in the world is generally a misguided effort. Not that hygiene is a bad thing or that it won't help with the symptoms but it won't make the acne go away.

bingo !!!

[tiramisu]

WOW bro lots of gear, but me likes....lol;)

Don't like too much, for me...

The results of 2 grams of test and 700 mg of tren were no better than 750 mg of test and 500 mg of tren. Diet and genetics were the limiting factors. I can only shovel in so much food and I can only synthesize muscle so fast. After that it's just waste.

I'm fairly sure I will never be bodybuilder big (I keep trying but diminishing returns are setting in). I've reached a point where I should be ~200 @ 8% @ 5' 9" which is pretty good for an underwear model but to me is a good 30 pounds short of what I think looks like a bodybuilder. I'm kind of partial to the McGrath look. After 2 years I'm dramatically bigger and stronger than I was but I haven't magically developed 18+" arms. It's taken me this long to reach the 300/400/500 strength range and it will probably take me another 2-3 year to reach the 400/500/600 level.

Sorry for the derail on the acne but don't get too excited about megadosing. Unless there is something genetically special there are diminishing returns in dosages and diet/genetics will constrain the result.

[BAM]

3 Apple Cider Vinegar capsules 3 times a day until acne starts scabbing up then drop to 2 capsules 3 times day.

This wont cure it completely, but it will definitely reduce it.

[PdH]

how bad is accutane at 20mg a day for side effect.

Not bad bro. Just try to keep some knowledge on your liver values. 20 mg shouldn't give you you much trouble.

[CanadianIron]

I had bad acne last cycle, I got a bar of benzyl peroxide soap and I wash my entire chest/neck/face every day, as long as I do it everyday I have almost NO acne. It works extremely well. It keeps your skin extremely dry.

[bigboy999]

try minocycline for the acne, its an antibiotic for the skin, it cleared up my acne which was pretty bad after my first cycle, but ever since then i never break out except for the occasional pimple here and there.

[tiramisu]

don't mix any of the "...cyline" antibiotics w/ accutane. Any of the vitamin A derivative antibiotics need to be avoided in combination.

[BenT]

My problem isn't so much the acne itself, but the hyperpigmentation afterwards. During a cycle I will get 1 or 2 pimples on my shoulders at a time, which isn't so bad. The problem is each pimple leaves a red mark that lasts for say 6 months. So right now the skin on my shoulders looks terrible, covered in little red marks, but the skin is perfectly smooth. Any suggestions on what to do about that? I can't get rid of this problem, it's driving me nuts.

[gsxr750]

^ Tan

[tiramisu]

I'm just dealing with hyperpigmentation on the back of my arms and shoulders myself.

I've done 3 weekly 50% glycolic peels and am going to do another 5, This seems to be evenng out the skin colour and tone slowly. Tanning only made it worse for me, as the hyperpigmentation tanned darker than the surrounding skin.

I may go for a stronger peel after 8 weeks if the result is not adequate but it's looking like this is going to provide a good enough solution.

[Kronis]

I've been doing 30% glycolic peels. The hyperpigmentation has been evening out but I think I need to go up to 50 or 60 for the arms.

The skin on my face looks amazing though, I didn't have any blemishes or anything there but figured I'd use it since I had the acid peel anyways. I'd recommend 30% peels just to keep the skin looking vibrant and healthy, and probably a higher concentration for hyperpigmentation.

[BenT]

I'm just dealing with hyperpigmentation on the back of my arms and shoulders myself.

I've done 3 weekly 50% glycolic peels and am going to do another 5, This seems to be evenng out the skin colour and tone slowly. Tanning only made it worse for me, as the hyperpigmentation tanned darker than the surrounding skin.

I may go for a stronger peel after 8 weeks if the result is not adequate but it's looking like this is going to provide a good enough solution.

Yeah, I was tanning a lot a couple of months ago prior to a vacation, which helped hide the marks a little bit, but now the tan has faded and they're just as visible as before.

I just started last week with E2D microdermabrasion (from shoppers), and daily vitamin E - not sure if it's helping. What's the glycolic peel you're using? Is it a home kit of some sort?

[BAM]

Are you guys havig these peels done professionaly or are you using a home kit version.

If the latter.. which brand and where did you buy it?

[tiramisu]

I bought the glycolic acid off of ebay for cheap. Spa treatments are obscenely expensive. Buy the strongest stuff you can find and water it down to the level you want. I bought 50% and cut it in half for the face and use it full strength on the shoulders/back.

... This isn't a perfect fix by any stretch but after 3 tries I'd say it's improved by 20% kind of thing. I'm hoping after 8 peels it might get to 50% improved. The more aggressive peels, ala TCA might be more effective, faster but you can burn the skin right off the meat with a stronger peel and I prefer to take the slow route.

[Kronis]

I bought mine from 30glycolic.com . Was the cheapest I could find.

Start at about 10 minutes for a 30% peel and go up from there. I can handle about an hour on my arms. As I said, going up to a 50%-60% for the arms soon and will start again at about 10 minutes.

Professional sessions are insanely overpriced.

I see noticeable results after every use.

[tiramisu]

I haven't gone over 5 minutes with 50% and the first time I went 2 minutes. If you are going for an hour you don't have 30% glycolic acid otherwise you'ld likely end up damaging your skin and creating hyper pigmentation. I'd guess what you have is closer to 10% if you are able to leave it on that long without causing damage.

Here is a decent set of instructions...
http://www.glycolicsolutions.com/glycpeelin2.html

[Kronis]

I haven't gone over 5 minutes with 50% and the first time I went 2 minutes. If you are going for an hour you don't have 30% glycolic acid otherwise you'ld likely end up damaging your skin and creating hyper pigmentation. I'd guess what you have is closer to 10% if you are able to leave it on that long without causing damage.

Here is a decent set of instructions...
http://www.glycolicsolutions.com/glycpeelin2.html

I built up a tolerance fairly quickly, I've done at least 10 peels. I can only do about 20 minutes on my face before it burns.

P.S. 10% can be left on all day.

[tiramisu]

I just finished doing a peel.

... again I can feel distinct burning within 2 minutes and skin redness within 5 and I have thick leather type 3 skin with 50%. No one recommends >10 minutes with glycolics of 30+ %.

To recommend that someone put a true 30% or greater on for an hour is similar to recommending someone scar their faces for life.

This is an acid and it can and will cause scarring in the form of hyperpigmentation if misused. 1 hour falls in the category of misuse.

[Kronis]

To recommend that someone put a true 30% or greater on for an hour is similar to recommending someone scar their faces for life.

This is an acid and it can and will cause scarring in the form of hyperpigmentation if misused. 1 hour falls in the category of misuse.

You're right actually, I think I started at 1 or 2 minutes for face and it burned.

Either way, I now use 20 minutes for face and 40-60 for arms.

Starting regiment for the 60% is 20 seconds or something like that.

[tiramisu]

I just don't want to hear about anyone here scarring themselves because I said glycolic is helping me. I've read quite a few stories of people using the higher percentage acids for long durations and ending up ****ed up and claiming that the stuff is crap, when truthfully the problem is just that they are ****ing stupid.

[Kronis]

LOL, if there's one thing I should have learned from bodybuilding message boards it's that what works for one person may severely **** up another.

Conclusion, try glycolic acid peels, but follow the directions they come with.

[kloan]

Anyone have experience with Retin-A cream?

[z83]

Anyone have experience with Retin-A cream?

Yes, it's great but the first days it can aggravate the acne. It will dry the skin few days later

Stievamycin is same kind of cream but actually feel like 70% alcool while applying. It started working the very first times for me.

[BenT]

Yes, it's great but the first days it can aggravate the acne. It will dry the skin few days later

Stievamycin is same kind of cream but actually feel like 70% alcool while applying. It started working the very first times for me.

Stievamycin is very effective for preventing acne, and even making it heal quicker. But, it has done nothing for hyperpigmentation - my dermatologist said it would help, but it hasn't. Maybe it's just my skin type.

I ordered some 50% glycolic. I'll make sure to start slow at 1-2 minutes.

[Kronis]

I ordered some 50% glycolic. I'll make sure to start slow at 1-2 minutes.

There will be instructions with whatever you ordered but like Tira said, start really low with 50%. Like 30 secs to a minute for your first test.

I literally used a stop-watch my first few peels.