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BAM
17-02-2008, 06:06 AM
Thoughts on M1T?

gustavo77
17-02-2008, 07:28 AM
Potent strength and good lean muscle gains but highly toxic. I have ran it twice and made decent gains but felt like shit the whole time. Never again. Way better supps out there than M1T with much less sides.

faller
17-02-2008, 08:07 AM
Same. Ran it 3 times, solid dry gains, incredible strength gains. First couple times didn't feel too bad but my last cycle i was an emotional wreck. I also won't run it again.

Canadian Bodybuilding
17-02-2008, 08:52 AM
Yuck. I hated the effect on my body.

simon85
17-02-2008, 04:44 PM
Thoughts on M1T?

I ran 40mg/ed for 4 weeks with test and I loved it. I never been as strong.

oster
17-02-2008, 05:36 PM
Great strength gains, but also flet like shit while on...

small_guy
19-02-2008, 06:09 PM
I had no probs with the product and I am planning on running it again.

physique
19-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Thoughts on M1T?

simple. if this is all u have access too, its a great product. contrary to what some people on here will say. u can gain a average of 10lbs in the first 2 weeks, your strength will go up aswell. but the gains really arent attainable. meaning when u stop u will loose most of it. also one must use the recommended dosage. 2 caps/tabs per day for 2 weeks, then take a week off. countless times i have seen people develope the beggining stages of liver launt from not taking the week off or using more then they should.

if u have access to superdrol, its a wayy better product then m1t. the gains are slower but attainable when u stop the product.

but if u have access to the real thing, then m1t shouldnt be used.

it all comes down to what u have access too.

physique
19-02-2008, 07:24 PM
oster who is the girl with the great tits!!!

Kronis
19-02-2008, 07:38 PM
oster who is the girl with the great tits!!!

step off, that's my wife...once I find out her name. :(

outshine
19-02-2008, 08:02 PM
it's cheap, made crazy strength gains, dropped fat. Put on about 10lbs of lbm and 50lbs on my bench in 2 weeks (1 week 10mg/day 1 week 20 mg/day) probably due to it being my first crack at AAS and me training like crazy. However, i felt really tired and lost my libido while i was on it . plus it couldn't have been good for my liver.

IMO, orals by themselves are a waste of time. I'd save my money and look for some test. If your gonna put your body through that kind of stress you mines well make it count . you'll see way better gains off test and you'll feel like superman.

tripleA
19-02-2008, 11:27 PM
Tried it a couple of times. Gains were good but lost most when I came off. Not worth the sides in my opinion.

Houstonbc
20-02-2008, 12:14 AM
I've ran it 2-3 times and every single time i was an emotional wreck! this stuff was about twice as bad for me as when i am cycling with tren. some of my other friends who use it love it and dont have this problem and a couple guys do.
On a side note I was in a local supplement store ( calgary) and the a$$hole there tried to sell me some m1t's i said no thanks bro too liver toxic and turn me into a loser.....this clown fires back trying to convince me they arent liver toxic and are absorbed through the lymphatic system.. needless to say i walked out of there and will not ever return.. oh ya he also told me he tells everyone to run it for at the very least 6 weeks at a minimum dose of 20mg a day!!

faller
20-02-2008, 01:23 AM
oh ya he also told me he tells everyone to run it for at the very least 6 weeks at a minimum dose of 20mg a day!!

The first time i tried it was a few years back when it was sold as a pro hormon. I bought it from a supplier in the States, and he said you had to run it for 15 weeks!! Start at 10 mg. and work your way up to 40 mg. and than taper back down to 10 mg. I used to wander if he had ever tried the stuff..

Kilburn
21-02-2008, 05:28 PM
just 20mg a day seemed to make me gain more weight than 600mg of test EW. crazy stuff. love it. best oral i've used so far.

SiLvErBaK
21-02-2008, 07:59 PM
m1t is methylated 1-testosterone , it is extremely anabolic and androgenic, compared to d-bol it is (this is just from memory--may be slightly incorrect), approx. 5-10 time more anabolic. Dbol is one of the highest ranking steroids when it comes to muscle building....so that should give u an idea. That said, M1T is highly hepatoxic, resulting on huge stress on the liver, not to mention your heart(ldl - hdl ratio), kidneys etc. Another interesting point is that this compund is very new and long term side effects are not know, there also aren't any reliable studies available either.Very easy to obtain yet ????????
I wouldn't use it, infact, i bought a bottle and ended up flushing it, kind of a waste of money but couldn't justify the potential harm to my body.
stick with the tried and true bro.

BAM
22-02-2008, 06:58 PM
Yeah, I've got a stockpile of various test compounds to use next time around, just curious about it M1T as some guy at the gym was talking about it like it was mana from God.

Thanks for the feedback.

tripleA
22-02-2008, 07:58 PM
The first time i tried it was a few years back when it was sold as a pro hormon. I bought it from a supplier in the States, and he said you had to run it for 15 weeks!! Start at 10 mg. and work your way up to 40 mg. and than taper back down to 10 mg. I used to wander if he had ever tried the stuff..

Your poor liver!

simon85
22-02-2008, 10:45 PM
m1t is methylated 1-testosterone , it is extremely anabolic and androgenic, compared to d-bol it is (this is just from memory--may be slightly incorrect), approx. 5-10 time more anabolic. Dbol is one of the highest ranking steroids when it comes to muscle building....so that should give u an idea. That said, M1T is highly hepatoxic, resulting on huge stress on the liver, not to mention your heart(ldl - hdl ratio), kidneys etc. Another interesting point is that this compund is very new and long term side effects are not know, there also aren't any reliable studies available either.Very easy to obtain yet ????????
I wouldn't use it, infact, i bought a bottle and ended up flushing it, kind of a waste of money but couldn't justify the potential harm to my body.
stick with the tried and true bro.

I ran all my orals with NAC. I never had any problems. I never felt the back pumps. I ran m1t at 40mg with test.

I never been as strong on m1t. It's way better than dbol IMO.

I'm about to try anadrol next week. It should be alot of fun!

That's my cycle:

1-8 anadrol 100mg/ed
1-15 tren-e 400mg/week
1-16 test-e 800mg/week
1-10 nac 600mg/ed

Slin 6weeks on/2 weeks off (Humalog 10iu Pw only)

faller
23-02-2008, 05:08 AM
Your poor liver!

No problems. I did a lot of reading on a couple boards that at the time catered more to the pro hormon croud. It didn't take long to realize that we were dealing with a pretty powerful compound, so i was only on for 4 weeks at a time.

Anatomy
24-02-2008, 05:25 PM
my first run was in the middle of a HEAVY cycle and adding in the M1T shot my strength up like crazy and I gained weight fast. I also felt like crap the entire time I took it; heartburn, insomnia and agression. It replaced tren as my love to hate steroid since I've never had gains or sides so severe.

SiLvErBaK
24-02-2008, 06:30 PM
wow, heartburn, insane aggression, nausea, liver probs, feeling like absolute shit constantly,

gimme some o' that toxic shit

:eek:

faller
24-02-2008, 08:46 PM
wow, heartburn, insane aggression, nausea, liver probs, feeling like absolute shit constantly,

Oh ya. You just know this stuff works! No denying that..

Turtle
24-02-2008, 09:30 PM
ic M1T topcis and usually just pass them over. why anyone would use this toxic chemical is beyond me.

dainbramaged
25-02-2008, 09:19 AM
ic M1T topcis and usually just pass them over. why anyone would use this toxic chemical is beyond me.

When they can't find anything better but can only find things much worse (effective-wise).

Anatomy
25-02-2008, 03:06 PM
It's true that the sides are horrible [at 40mg/d anyway... much more tolerable at 20mg] and I haven't run it in almost 2 years because of those sides. I don't recommend it to anyone but that doesn't change the fact that it has the most positive results of any steroid I've taken. That and/or availability are the reasons someone might take m1t for anyone who's still wondering.

faller
25-02-2008, 05:24 PM
How it effects someone is a very individual thing. Like i said, my first 2 cycles were a cake walk, my last one a night mare. And i did nothing different. The one thing there is no denying, this stuff works!

Kronis
25-02-2008, 06:21 PM
is there a similar product that's injectable so as to bypass the harsh liver toxicity?

edit: just read up. Apparently there's no injectable form and there wouldn't be a point since it still goes through the liver at the same rate.

SteveMan
25-02-2008, 06:58 PM
I ran M1t with 4ad to counter the lethargy with liver support and I absolutely loved it, made amazing gains, great strength. Some days I felt shitty though but it was worth it.

SteveMan
25-02-2008, 07:01 PM
ic M1T topcis and usually just pass them over. why anyone would use this toxic chemical is beyond me.

Why? cause it works better then any other oral steroid you will ever take. Beats the shit out of dbol. I have read studies on its toxicity and it is no worse then dbol, yet people rarely mention dbol as being toxic. Additionally you are only suppose to short cycles (4 weeks or so) with it, so in the long run your body is under stress for a very short amount of time.

faller
25-02-2008, 09:45 PM
The reason for m1t having such a bad rap imo is when it first came out it was treated as a pro hormone. 4-ad is a good example, every one took a minimum of 5 times the recommended dosage, you had to or you got nothing out of it. I think the guys were doing the same with m1t with some nasty results. So the rap just stuck. Even from bro's who have no idea what the shit even looks like, they just hear its bad.

The thing also about m1t is everyone reacts differently to it in regards to side affects, Lethargy, mood swings, etc. I might try it again, when it comes to, price to gain ratio, you can't beat this product. But maybe that's just me :D

SiLvErBaK
26-02-2008, 12:32 AM
Do your research, on what little there is known about this product, because it was so recently developed by some chemist just out for a quick buck, u will find time and time again this compound is extremely toxic to the liver. It also WILL cause your ldl/hdl ratio to change drastically--for the worse. worse than d-bol, worse than anadrol, and while it may create some positive physical effects your body is paying the price.

Anatomy
26-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Not that it matters a bunch but I thought M1T was actually one of the 1st steroids synthesized but never made it into medical use [or production]. Because it wasn't in production when the Sched III list was madethe FDA didn't include it and it was able to be produced and sold OTC as a PH. When the FDA wised up it was added to the list and the practice stopped. FWIW I think Canadian law kept it from being sold OTC here all along.

It would be interesting if someone knew the facts behind the history of this bad boy.

simon85
26-02-2008, 01:45 PM
Canada banned this supplement back in 2006

Warning

2006-06
February 6, 2006
For immediate release
Health Canada warns consumers not to use supplements containing methyl-1-testosterone due to potential serious health risks

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2006/2006_06_e.html

SiLvErBaK
26-02-2008, 11:44 PM
Not that it matters a bunch but I thought M1T was actually one of the 1st steroids synthesized but never made it into medical use [or production]. Because it wasn't in production when the Sched III list was madethe FDA didn't include it and it was able to be produced and sold OTC as a PH. When the FDA wised up it was added to the list and the practice stopped. FWIW I think Canadian law kept it from being sold OTC here all along.

It would be interesting if someone knew the facts behind the history of this bad boy.

Not M1t ---1-testosterone was one of the first steroids developed, it was nasty aswell. M1t is the methylated version in other wors M1t has been changed in its chemical structure to reflect 17alpha alkylation this way it is able to stay intact through its first pass through the liver making the drug remain active in your body longer.

Anatomy
27-02-2008, 11:48 AM
I'd love to see your source for that; I've read a number of times that M1T was developed in the 50s, methylated and all; it was just never produced on a wide scale until recently. There was a lot of steroid development and testing in the 50s and those guys were methylating everything they could [not to mention other methods for oral delivery] trying to make them easier to administer and therefore more marketable

rated_rko
27-02-2008, 01:00 PM
anyone run this after a cycle just to bridge or not lose gains made???

Anatomy
28-02-2008, 12:59 AM
anyone run this after a cycle just to bridge or not lose gains made???

as I recall, on it's own this stuff made my nuts atrophy so quickly they hurt! You could run it as a bridge but you're not fooling anyone, you're still on cycle and even a low dose of this stuff won't give your body the break it probably needs.

If you aren't worried about recovering your natural test try running a hormone replacement dose of test [100mg/week ish] or even bump a little higher to 200mg/w... should be pretty safe and with a proper diet you shouldn't have much trouble hanging on to your solid gains

Mr.Freeze
28-02-2008, 01:13 AM
I'd love to see your source for that; I've read a number of times that M1T was developed in the 50s, methylated and all; it was just never produced on a wide scale until recently. There was a lot of steroid development and testing in the 50s and those guys were methylating everything they could [not to mention other methods for oral delivery] trying to make them easier to administer and therefore more marketable

me too!

rated_rko
28-02-2008, 07:14 AM
as I recall, on it's own this stuff made my nuts atrophy so quickly they hurt! You could run it as a bridge but you're not fooling anyone, you're still on cycle and even a low dose of this stuff won't give your body the break it probably needs.

If you aren't worried about recovering your natural test try running a hormone replacement dose of test [100mg/week ish] or even bump a little higher to 200mg/w... should be pretty safe and with a proper diet you shouldn't have much trouble hanging on to your solid gains


thanks for the reply dude

SiLvErBaK
28-02-2008, 06:49 PM
I'd love to see your source for that; I've read a number of times that M1T was developed in the 50s, methylated and all; it was just never produced on a wide scale until recently. There was a lot of steroid development and testing in the 50s and those guys were methylating everything they could [not to mention other methods for oral delivery] trying to make them easier to administer and therefore more marketable

here's quik one, plenty more info on the net as well....

http://www.delano.com/Articles/1-Testosterone.html

M1t was just recently developed. A chemist by the name of Patrick Arnold(also responsible for andro, 1-ad, 4-ad,ect.)created this compund. Basically a "designer steroid" it becomes active quik and leaves the body quik. one of many products designed to beat detection.

SteveMan
28-02-2008, 07:53 PM
It cost me about $130 to run 2 cycles of 2 weeks on 2 weeks off of 20mgM1T and 400mg of 4AD all in the same pill. Looking at the results achieved spending only $130 were pretty amazing. I put on like 20lbs, my BF went up only 1% and I kept about 14lbs. It was the most rapid weight gain I have ever put on, strength went through the roof and the sides were not bad at all. Dbol doesn't even touch it M1T imo. It may have a bad rap, but the shit works amazing.

Anatomy
28-02-2008, 08:26 PM
here's quik one, plenty more info on the net as well....

http://www.delano.com/Articles/1-Testosterone.html

M1t was just recently developed. A chemist by the name of Patrick Arnold(also responsible for andro, 1-ad, 4-ad,ect.)created this compund. Basically a "designer steroid" it becomes active quik and leaves the body quik. one of many products designed to beat detection.

you should read the links before you post "This led to the rediscovery by Patrick Arnold of 1-Testosterone, 1-Androstenedione, and other long-forgotten compounds that (in some countries, at least) were not covered by anti-steroid laws"

When I was in school "rediscovery" meant you didn't actually discover something. BTW, there was no mention of methyl-anything in that article. I'm not saying the real story isn't out there or that you're wrong... just that your link and statement still don't hold water. Don't bother wasting any more time on it... I was just curious anyway, I've already devoted more time to it than it's worth