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Yazz
11-01-2010, 08:35 AM
Hey everyone, I just came back from the supplement store where I decided to use this new machine (Impédancemètre) to calculate my BMI and guess what? I just lost 11 lbs of bone & lean mass and gained them in fat mass!!

I went from 153 lbs lean mass to 141 lbs & 37.5 lbs to 48.5 lbs fat mass in just two weeks.

I can't tell you how frustrated I am since I've been bulking for Three months lifting heavier each session trying to cut on carbs to lower my fat mass!

I try to eat six meals a day I Supp with Amino 2222 tabs and Isocool protein shake 0% carb 90% protein
My workout rarely exceeds 1 hour
I try to get 8 hours of sleep and power naps. But not good quality though.

My diet during these two weeks looks like this:

Meal #1 : A glass of skim milk 2 tbs of peanut butter and a plain yogurt.

Meal#2 : 100 gr of fried chicken breasts with some vegie soup

Pre workout meal:
100 gr of fried flat sole fish with a medium size sweet potatoe and plain yogurt

Post workout : protein shake & amino tab + medium size banana

Meal #5 : 100 gr oil tuna 2 egg whites & baked green beans + plain yogurt

Meal #6 100 gr fried flat sole fish.


I would substitute the chicken breast with Turkey escalopes from time to time.

What am I doing wrong guys? I really don't get it!
Thanks for your time.

tiramisu
11-01-2010, 08:51 AM
no you didn't. you did not burn off 10% of you muscle in two weeks. your numbers are messed up.

... your food choice are interesting. Can you post the macro breakdowns of your meals? pro/carb/fat. It looks to me like you are undereating and are low on protein but I'm not 150 pounds. This is definitely not a "bulking diet". It's a weight loss diet with some odd selections.

RagingRandy
11-01-2010, 09:10 AM
I suspect the numbers are messed as well. I do not speak french but I think you are using a Tanita type scale. These are notoriously inaccurate. They can be used for tracking purposes but can not be relied upon for one off measurements. I too am perplexed by your diet. Are you looking to cut weight? The calorie count seems light.

Yazz
11-01-2010, 09:34 AM
Thx for the reply Tira!

Well, I try to get 30 grms of protein per meal. And 6 is the best I could do.

I weigh 196 lbs 177 cm tall.

As for the nutrients

The sole fish :100g (1 slice); Calories: 90, Total Fat: 4g, Carbs: 2g, Protein: 32.3g

Turkey escalope 100 gr : Calories 110, total fat :2.7 gr, Carbs :21, Protein:
27 gr

Canned tuna : 100 g : calories: 280, total fat: 15 gr, Carbs :5, Protein:
25 gr

Plain yogurt : 110 gr : calories: 66, total fat: 3.5gr, Carbs :4.5, Protein:
4 gr

Are you saying that the machine could have given me wrong numbers?
You've got to forgive me cause I'm new with the calories and carbs calculations.
Thx again.

Yazz
11-01-2010, 09:39 AM
I suspect the numbers are messed as well. I do not speak french but I think you are using a Tanita type scale. These are notoriously inaccurate. They can be used for tracking purposes but can not be relied upon for one off measurements. I too am perplexed by your diet. Are you looking to cut weight? The calorie count seems light.

You're right man!! It is a Tanita!!
Man I almost quit because of these damn results!

As for the calories I'm trying to put on lean muscle and lose fat!

waderow
11-01-2010, 09:46 AM
what does the mirror say?

_Ragnar_
11-01-2010, 09:49 AM
^That is exactly what I was thinking.

tiramisu
11-01-2010, 09:54 AM
So adding muscle and losing fat simultaneously is generally extremely inefficient or not possible depending on the level of training.

If you want to see results you should pick one.

I'm not sure where you are getting your breakdowns from
100 g of sole = 117 cal, 24.2 g protein according to fitday.com

protein should be 1-1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight.

total calories for normal weight loss should be maintenance calories - 500 per day and for weight gain maintenance calories + 500. There are more extreme approaches but to gain muscle without gaining excessive fat (+500). Big "B" bulking and Big "C" cutting requires more.

You are eating fried foods and soup but no green vegetables and no fibre. this makes no sense. Your fat selections are questionable.

You need to rethink you diet pretty significantly.

jsv22
11-01-2010, 09:56 AM
ya it sounds like you measured using bioelectrical impedance (BIA) which measures total body water....if you dont' use the right protocol, i.e. don't eat for a few hours and consume 2 glasses of water before the test (there may be others, i forget) then it wont give you an 'accurate' measurement.

BIA is only mediocre at best and can vary like 10% from day to day lol

Yazz
11-01-2010, 10:10 AM
what does the mirror say?

It looks like I'm putting on a little mass but not losing any fat.

Weight on scale hasn't changed for three weeks.

I usualy get confused between the pump I get from the gym and the real mass I gain.

Yazz
11-01-2010, 10:20 AM
So adding muscle and losing fat simultaneously is generally extremely inefficient or not possible depending on the level of training.

If you want to see results you should pick one.

I'm not sure where you are getting your breakdowns from
100 g of sole = 117 cal, 24.2 g protein according to fitday.com

protein should be 1-1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight.

total calories for normal weight loss should be maintenance calories - 500 per day and for weight gain maintenance calories + 500. There are more extreme approaches but to gain muscle without gaining excessive fat (+500). Big "B" bulking and Big "C" cutting requires more.

You are eating fried foods and soup but no green vegetables and no fibre. this makes no sense. Your fat selections are questionable.

You need to rethink you diet pretty significantly.

So you think I should start the Big B before the Big C?
More calories, fiber and vegetables!

but how can I increase the protein intake knowing my body can only absorb 30 grs per meal! And I eat every 3 hours 6 times a day??

I hope I don't sound foolish. Thx again!

Sean Summers
11-01-2010, 12:02 PM
You need to rethink you diet pretty significantly.

x2

Your body can absorb more than 30g Protein per meal.
SS

Yazz
11-01-2010, 02:25 PM
Thanks for the help everyone!!

tiramisu
11-01-2010, 03:14 PM
So you think I should start the Big B before the Big C?
More calories, fiber and vegetables!

but how can I increase the protein intake knowing my body can only absorb 30 grs per meal! And I eat every 3 hours 6 times a day??

I hope I don't sound foolish. Thx again!

Whether you choose to bulk or cut is up to you and your goals.
Once you make that decision then you can adjust your diet appropriately.

In either case you want:
1-1.5 grams of protein
fiber and greens
good fat choices (no deep fried)

If you were me I would recommend small "c" cutting if you were close to 20% body fat otherwise small "b" bulking if you were around 12%. The hormonal response to bulking is far better if you are under 10% but it may take you a few tries to get there.

You said you wanted to put on muscle so I would say small "b" bulking. 500 calories per day more than you need to maintain your weight. This gives you the potential to add about a pound a week depending on the lifting program you are using.

beretta96
20-01-2010, 03:20 PM
I put absolutely no faith in the Tanita machines. I tried 3 weeks in a row on a Monday before workout to prove a point to the "instructors" at the gym. I was not the same number twice and was 17% from week 1 to week 2 and week 3 was 6% off. That's quite a swing!

A friend of mine swears by going by your waistline and scale. If your caloric intake is putting on weight but inches at the waist then it's too high. If your caloric intake is putting on weight but say slimming at the waist then it's lean gains. If there's no gains then that's your maintenance level. Mind you this only works if you're training and eating right.