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daande
10-01-2010, 07:00 PM
Is there any affect or problem if one was to use hgh that has a metal plate in there hand?

#8
10-01-2010, 07:02 PM
do you piss your pants and forget your name for 30 minutes every time someone turns on a microwave?

daande
10-01-2010, 07:20 PM
do you piss your pants and forget your name for 30 minutes every time someone turns on a microwave?

I dont know if it would cause some sort of bone growth cause pain around the pins that attach the plate to the bone.

#8
10-01-2010, 07:22 PM
^^ i guess you've never seen Christmas Vacation. No worries. Just teasing dude.

theboss
10-01-2010, 08:03 PM
i think bone growth only occurs in high doses for an extended period...
what dose are you considering?
i would be more concerned with carpal tunnel......

Praetorian
10-01-2010, 08:27 PM
Bone growth would only happen if your epiphyseal growth plates havent sealed over which occurs after puberty. This is why HGH helps children affected a pituitary problem who have stunted growth. Adults will not see this affect.
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daande
10-01-2010, 09:34 PM
i think bone growth only occurs in high doses for an extended period...
what dose are you considering?
i would be more concerned with carpal tunnel......

Carpal Tunnel is the type of thing I was concerned with and I am not considering it as of yet. I was just wondering for my own information. Thanks.

daande
10-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Bone growth would only happen if your epiphyseal growth plates havent sealed over which occurs after puberty. This is why HGH helps children affected a pituitary problem who have stunted growth. Adults will not see this affect.
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I would rep you but I cant lol.

O-Train
10-01-2010, 09:53 PM
Bone growth would only happen if your epiphyseal growth plates havent sealed over which occurs after puberty. This is why HGH helps children affected a pituitary problem who have stunted growth. Adults will not see this affect.
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I think hGH would effect his hands. It may not cause a problem and would depend a lot on the dose and duration, but I think it would.

O-Train
10-01-2010, 10:00 PM
http://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0020/ea0020s10.1.htm

Growth hormone deficiency: bone matters

Galina Götherström

Sahlgrenska University Hospital, Göteborg, Sweden.


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Growth hormone (GH) plays a critical role for longitudinal bone growth in children, the achievement of a normal peak bone mass in young adults, and it also affects bone mass and bone remodelling in adults. Among the most reported features of severe growth hormone deficiency (GHD) are abnormal body composition, in particular, increased fat mass and reduced lean body mass, osteopenia and increased risk of fracture. Low bone mass has been reported using dual energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA) and other quantitative methodologies. Bone quality in GHD adults is not studied. Reduced serum concentrations of the markers of bone turnover and the scarce histomorphometry data suggest that GHD is, probably, a state of low bone turnover.

Clinical studies have shown that GH replacement therapy accelerates bone turnover within a few weeks, whereas changes in bone mineral density (BMD) and bone mineral content (BMC) were observed much later, 1–2 years after initiating of GH therapy because of initially negative bone remodelling balance.

There are few studies determining the effects of prolonged GH replacement. Seven years of GH replacement therapy in 20 adults resulted in increased lumbar spine and forearm BMD between 1 and 6 years. In our study, 10 years of GH therapy in 87 GHD adults produced sustained increases in bone mass and density with the maximum effect after 7–10 years.

T-scores were almost normalized. As t-score in lumbar spine and femur neck is strongly related to the risk of fractures in these regions, the 10-year replacement is likely to reduce the risk of fractures in GHD adults.

The differences in the treatment responses between genders, age groups and groups of adults with different onset of GHD will be discussed.

daande
10-01-2010, 10:18 PM
I am assuming if I were to run like 2iu ED for 6 month or so I wouldnt really notice these effects. I would assume if I did like 8-10iu ED for 2 years I would have problems. Do you guys think this would be painful? As of right now I never notice the plate in my hand unless I do heavy closegrip bench.

O-Train
10-01-2010, 10:31 PM
I am assuming if I were to run like 2iu ED for 6 month or so I wouldnt really notice these effects. I would assume if I did like 8-10iu ED for 2 years I would have problems. Do you guys think this would be painful? As of right now I never notice the plate in my hand unless I do heavy closegrip bench.

I'll go out on a limb and say judging by the clinical data, you probably won't have a problem with the plate related to hGH. Who knows it may make it feel better. It's something you'll just have to find out.

Praetorian
11-01-2010, 09:55 AM
I think hGH would effect his hands. It may not cause a problem and would depend a lot on the dose and duration, but I think it would.

You woudl only see carpal tunnel type symptoms if you started with too high of a dose...starting at 2iu ED and ramping up from there would prevent this.
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Praetorian
11-01-2010, 09:57 AM
I am assuming if I were to run like 2iu ED for 6 month or so I wouldnt really notice these effects. I would assume if I did like 8-10iu ED for 2 years I would have problems. Do you guys think this would be painful? As of right now I never notice the plate in my hand unless I do heavy closegrip bench.

You wouldnt see any affects at either of those dosages. Ramping up is the key...however I dont think you really need HGH at this point in time.
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daande
11-01-2010, 10:37 AM
You wouldnt see any affects at either of those dosages. Ramping up is the key...however I dont think you really need HGH at this point in time.
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I know I do not need hgh at this time. I am not even considering doing it. I was just researching because I could not find any information on this topic.

O-Train
11-01-2010, 12:44 PM
You woudl only see carpal tunnel type symptoms if you started with too high of a dose...starting at 2iu ED and ramping up from there would prevent this.
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I meant the bones themselves. hGH doesn't influence longitudinal bone growth in adults but it will increase bone density and mass. Which takes a while (years).