The never ending cycle

[jacked_to_the_nine]

hey, well i have been on a great cycle since dec 1st, i'm taking 100mg prop EOD and 300mg of EQ with that EOD, and i even threw in a bottle of cyp at 100mg every 5 days, its an amazing stable and smooth cycle thus far... however i know i will have to end it soon, in the middle of febuary some time... i want to continue to acheive gains througout the year, so here's where the HGH comes in, can i, do 12 weeks of EQ/prop and then switch to 12 weeks of HGH back to back, year in year out? or will i start growing out of control, which i don't want cuz i compete in combat sports, and weight classes? i think i will do 2IU's EOD.

[pw154]

You don't want to run HGH for 12 weeks. HGH should be ran for 6 months at a minimum. Running it between cycles will do nothing. You won't start growing out of control either so don't worry about that. No matter what you're running you will still grow as fast as your genetics will allow.

[pw154]

How old are you? if you're younger than 30 even HGH especially at 2iu EOD will do nothing. You'll be pissing your money away

[PdH]

You're doing 900 mg of EQ a week? You do know that the highest recommended dosage for a 1000 pound horse is 500 mg every 2 weeks right?

[jacked_to_the_nine]

question for PW154,

i'm 28 dude, i've just read loads on the stuff, and basicaly its said to be good for athletes in general when it comes to regeneration and healing, burning fat, endurance, shit like that... and i think that i may run it all year round without the use of AAS on the side either, just HGH... can u just breifly explain to me why i'll be pissing the $$$ away, cuz i'm all ears on that!

answer for PDH,

hey dude, sorry i screwed up, the EQ i have is dosed at 300mg per ml, and i just do half that EOD with the prop, so 150mg of EQ plus the 100mg of prop, sorry about that. so basicaly i'm doing 600EQ EW and 600mg test EW, its friggen sweet, i'm so paraniod about coming off though, ****!

[tex]

You're doing 900 mg of EQ a week? You do know that the highest recommended dosage for a 1000 pound horse is 500 mg every 2 weeks right? he is a horse...and a real prize winner!

[kloan]

lol, I dunno what it is about those miniature horses but every time I see one I bust out laughing..

[Sean Summers]

or will i start growing out of control

Uh...yeah....that's exactly what's going to happen.
SS

[PdH]

the EQ i have is dosed at 300mg per ml, and i just do half that EOD with the prop, so 150mg of EQ plus the 100mg of prop, sorry about that. so basicaly i'm doing 600EQ EW and 600mg test EW, its friggen sweet, i'm so paraniod about coming off though, ****!

Bro, your math is off a bit. It's good to know exactly what dosages you're taking for proper gear usage. 150 EQ eod is 450 every 6 days or basically per week. 100 prop eod is 300.

Plus you've got the cyp in there e5d for some reason. What's up with that? All gear apart from water based should be pinned EOD for stable levels.

[Memo]

its not hard to mix all gear in one syringe eod and way easier to calculate. I compete in BJJ, and growing is quite hard. I am not sure how out of control you are talking about but its so easy to loose weight and so hard to gain it, I think you will be safe.

[nisser]

If you can't even coherently tell us your weekly dosage, then you shouldn't' ****ing use steroids.

How do people have the balls to just ****ing randomly inject shit without knowing what they're doing? You have to seriously be missing parts of your brain to feel comfortable doing this.

[Memo]

no need to be offensive.. we should help educate people. Some people are uneducated because they listen to the wrong people. Not because they are idiots..

[bongd]

Growing out of control? How can I develop this "problem"? It'd sure help out with my grocery bills.

[Blitz-Test]

You're doing 900 mg of EQ a week? You do know that the highest recommended dosage for a 1000 pound horse is 500 mg every 2 weeks right?

This is a silly comparison... Each drug reacts differently in each different animal.. 900mg of EQ is nothing crazy

[Memo]

This is a silly comparison... Each drug reacts differently in each different animal.. 900mg of EQ is nothing crazy

It's obviously not in the low end of the spectrum but still a bit high for most people.

[bigtavi8]

alright guys lets not bash the guy here. But yes hgh will not be very effective at 2iu EOD. I have read many ppls post on here and especially praetorian says in a thread that less than 6ius or 8 ius (i forget which but up there) a day is not going to make you achieve a anabolic (growing ) effect. At a low dose of even 2ius its mostly just for general health, anti aging and leaning up. As for use on PCT i dont think that is an awesome idea but then again i dont run gh at this stage of the game. But long cycles are recomended like previosuly stated and it is a whole other ball gamed J29 so id stay away until you tapped your potential with gear. Just my opinion. Plus your fairly young and lean i would just continue the way you are and do a no hormone pct and rest a bit then go back on. Just my 2 cents also if you want to go the gh route research insulin PWO and all that. That seems to be the way to run it. the pros here will likely be able to tell you that whole deal and how to run slin...

[PdH]

900mg of EQ is nothing crazy

Alright then.

[bongd]

If you can't even coherently tell us your weekly dosage, then you shouldn't' ****ing use steroids.

How do people have the balls to just ****ing randomly inject shit without knowing what they're doing? You have to seriously be missing parts of your brain to feel comfortable doing this.

Chill the **** out. Perhaps you should reevaluate the use of androgens because you clearly can't keep your shitty attitude to yourself.

It's the internet. People just type shit and if someone mistypes something it means sweet **** all. You need to stop surfing the internet if you're going to shit your pants over something so insignificant.

[nisser]

It's the internet. People just type shit and if someone mistypes something it means sweet **** all. You need to stop surfing the internet if you're going to shit your pants over something so insignificant.

yeah steroids are totally insignificant. i poke myself like it's running out of style.

[pw154]

question for PW154,

i'm 28 dude, i've just read loads on the stuff, and basicaly its said to be good for athletes in general when it comes to regeneration and healing, burning fat, endurance, shit like that... and i think that i may run it all year round without the use of AAS on the side either, just HGH... can u just breifly explain to me why i'll be pissing the $$$ away, cuz i'm all ears on that!I said pissing money away because at 28 your pituitary gland should still be producing more than enough HGH to make supplementing exogenously not worthwhile. Especially at 2iu. You would need doses much higher to make notable gains, but with high doses come side effects. Swelling of joints and water retention/edema, as well as arthritis is not something you want if you compete in combat sports.

[jacked_to_the_nine]

Thanks for the honest info thus far dudes... to clear things up about my dosages, i'm simply doing

-100mg of prop EOD
-150mg of EQ EOD
-100mg of test C E5D
(so 500mg test and 600mg EQ each week in total)

and yes as random as it sounds i do an injection of 100mg of test C every 5 days or so, it just feels really good adding in that base of a long ester circulating in my system constantly... for some reason i feel that the test prop is just in and out too quick, but i just love how i can take it 2 hours before i train or compete and the effects are increadible... i will be cutting out the test c and the EQ 2 weeks before the test prop... everything feels really good and the gains made are mostly in strength and endurance and not to much in weight, maybe 8lbs, and i am much leaner and harder, so i figure these are just your typical gains from a moderate dose of Test/EQ, so great, i'm happy!

but it seems venturing into the world of HGH is still to be decided... i know i will make great gains from cycling Test/EQ for some time to come, but i would love it if i could just stay on something for like 6 months at a time..., if i feel like i have a hard time maintaining my gains after this cycle then i will consider HGH, does that sound sensible?

any more IMO's are welcome, thanks!

[Blitz-Test]

It's obviously not in the low end of the spectrum but still a bit high for most people.

For sure


Alright then.

Go to any bb forum and youll see guys running 2g of test, or 600mg of tren, or 100mg of dbol...

EQ is pretty mild all in all in humans so 900mg isnt bad... 600mg is the average...

[GYMBRAT]

For sure



Go to any bb forum and youll see guys running 2g of test, or 600mg of tren, or 100mg of dbol...

EQ is pretty mild all in all in humans so 900mg isnt bad... 600mg is the average...

either way bro, them dosages are still not needed and whom ever uses that amount is just looking for sides and looking to give us "normal" users a bad name.... :D

[bongd]

yeah steroids are totally insignificant. i poke myself like it's running out of style.

What someone types on a forum isn't written on stone, dude. Chill the **** out. If you're going to take everything out of context and exaggerate it to no end, have fun. There are trillions of websites out there to keep you busy while you meltdown all over the place. Have fun being angry at the world!

:puff

[jacked_to_the_nine]

I said pissing money away because at 28 your pituitary gland should still be producing more than enough HGH to make supplementing exogenously not worthwhile. Especially at 2iu. You would need doses much higher to make notable gains, but with high doses come side effects. Swelling of joints and water retention/edema, as well as arthritis is not something you want if you compete in combat sports.

ya i've read this, actualy from the profile on this site, now my question is, would these sides be expected from 2iu's EOD for 6 months, or is it diffrent for everyone. i know its expensive, but for the next few years i'm looking at it from a investment sort of stand point.

[grader]

If you can't even coherently tell us your weekly dosage, then you shouldn't' ****ing use steroids.

How do people have the balls to just ****ing randomly inject shit without knowing what they're doing? You have to seriously be missing parts of your brain to feel comfortable doing this.

you would be suprised how many people i know have been using for years and have no idea what the **** they are doing or putting into themselves. theres alot to be read on the internet and alot of idiots posting advice, how many times did i read NEVER EVER go over 500 p/w of test only to find out that yeah, sure thats a good place to start but then work your way up. i mean theres alot of shit to sift through but people need to do the work for themselves because taking advice from somebody who may or may not just be repeating what some other idiot told them, isnt the best advice to be taking.

[nitrous]

You're doing 900 mg of EQ a week? You do know that the highest recommended dosage for a 1000 pound horse is 500 mg every 2 weeks right?

horses are more sensitive to AAS then humans are

[pw154]

ya i've read this, actualy from the profile on this site, now my question is, would these sides be expected from 2iu's EOD for 6 months, or is it diffrent for everyone. i know its expensive, but for the next few years i'm looking at it from a investment sort of stand point.The definition of investment implies that you eventually get more back than you put in. 2ius EOD for 6 months (especially at your age) will get you nothing and does not fit the definition of investment