What gives? injections leaking now?

[C-money]

Hey bros, just chiming in to see if any of you experienced this.... k prior to about 3 weeks ago ive never had 1 injection leak.. now my delts, glutes, sometimes quads are leaking almost every injection... Im using the same gear/pins, shooting it the same depth, using same size injections, rotating spots all the time, letting the oil absorb and pulling the pin out after about a minute.. could this have something to do with increased muscle mass creating more pressure or something, cause i am alot thicker.. i have no idea, any ideas lol:p

[Kronis]

is your gear ethyl oleate?

either way, it takes time for oil to absorb into the muscle, in the case of EO it's absorption half-life is 10 days, so after 10 days if you injected 2mL into your shoulder there's still 1mL left. If you're injecting the same spot every 10 days with 2mL then at the second shot you'd have 1.5mL, then 1.75ml, so if you've been on for a long time theres a chance you keep hitting oil pockets. Add in the fresh 2cc and at the 4th shot you've actually got 3.75mL (1.75+2) of liquid in that muscle.

Just a theory.

[Ritch]

At least your ass isn`t leaking! By the way, how`s that going Dremen?

[pseclint]

I have had a few buddies with this problem, I would say it happens because of two things.

1. The more muscle your packing on the denser it is becoming in that zone, therefore there is less permeability in the muscle for the oil to go, so it comes back out
2. Scar tissue, sounds like you might be building up some scar tissue shooting same depth, same spot, etc.... rotate some sites see how it feels

[C-money]

LMAO ritch! Kronis ive been using S*****x from day 1, they use some special type of oil thats lighter, its not EO as far as i know
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[C-money]

I have had a few buddies with this problem, I would say it happens because of two things.

1. The more muscle your packing on the denser it is becoming in that zone, therefore there is less permeability in the muscle for the oil to go, so it comes back out
2. Scar tissue, sounds like you might be building up some scar tissue shooting same depth, same spot, etc.... rotate some sites see how it feels

Thanks Ps, ill try different areas in the spots and see what happens...

[kloan]

I'd say it's scar tissue... the same thing's been happening to me injecting my left glute. In one spot, the needle is smooth going in til about 3/4 of the way in, then it sort of stops and I have to push a bit harder.. and I feel a slight pinch when that happens.

After I shoot, I notice a bit of oil leaks out. I try to put the alcohol pad on as quickly as possible and massage deeply to try and move the oil around so it stops leaking out asap.

I have noticed if I inject a bit higher than that spot, I don't seem to hit the hard spot and oil doesn't leak out.

[daande]

Try using a Z-track injection technique. Very hard to do if you are giving them yourself. Another tip would be once you have injected all the oil in keep the pin in you for 5 seconds or so before pulling out.

[bongd]

This sometimes happens. It's not the gear either, we've both been using this particular stuff. But I've had the same thing happen where I have scar tissue and tighter muscles. I've tried the z-track method but I don't like the way the tip of the needle feels when it's scratched across the muscle.

I like sucking in a tiny bit of air and pushing it in after the oil. As long as you're aspirating there's no danger. Leaving the needle in for a few seconds afterwards also helps. I hate when I get tiny leaks and have to make a mad dash for my alcohol wipes.

[C-money]

Try using a Z-track injection technique. Very hard to do if you are giving them yourself. Another tip would be once you have injected all the oil in keep the pin in you for 5 seconds or so before pulling out. Ill give the z track a go, as well as different areas, im leading to think it is scar tissue building, usually i leave the pin in for like a minute after all the oil is in...

[C-money]

This sometimes happens. It's not the gear either, we've both been using this particular stuff. But I've had the same thing happen where I have scar tissue and tighter muscles. I've tried the z-track method but I don't like the way the tip of the needle feels when it's scratched across the muscle.

I like sucking in a tiny bit of air and pushing it in after the oil. As long as you're aspirating there's no danger. Leaving the needle in for a few seconds afterwards also helps. I hate when I get tiny leaks and have to make a mad dash for my alcohol wipes.

I hear ya buddy, i never had issues the whole time till lately... its the worst with my f ing delts bro... id like to think they are getting so dense and ****ing massive there is no room for the gear ha ha! :yeah Ill try some different areas and maybe give that little air trick a try

[rated_rko]

for sure scar tissues happens to me in my right glute all the time

[daande]

Ill give the z track a go, as well as different areas, im leading to think it is scar tissue building, usually i leave the pin in for like a minute after all the oil is in...

Before next time you pin take a hot shower right before and massage the area you are going to inject into pretty hard. I would be interested to see if this would help breakup scar tissue so the oil stays in.

[GYMBRAT]

simple, before injecting stretch your skin hard to one side then inject,.....it then does not have straight line of access to work its way out.....works every time 4 me when I was having the same issue

[bigboy999]

^^ exactly wat im doing, works great.

[JonnyO]

Hey bros, just chiming in to see if any of you experienced this.... k prior to about 3 weeks ago ive never had 1 injection leak.. now my delts, glutes, sometimes quads are leaking almost every injection... Im using the same gear/pins, shooting it the same depth, using same size injections, rotating spots all the time, letting the oil absorb and pulling the pin out after about a minute.. could this have something to do with increased muscle mass creating more pressure or something, cause i am alot thicker.. i have no idea, any ideas lol:p

Look up Z-track injections.

[kloan]

How do you guys do z-track with any site other than quads??

I just don't see how it's possible.

[C-money]

thats what i was kinda thinking to kloan...i barely can reach my delt with 1 hand as is lol

[ironwill]

simple, before injecting stretch your skin hard to one side then inject,.....it then does not have straight line of access to work its way out.....works every time 4 me when I was having the same issue

Do this C-money, guaranteed to work like a charm.....GBs a smartfeller...:D

[daande]

simple, before injecting stretch your skin hard to one side then inject,.....it then does not have straight line of access to work its way out.....works every time 4 me when I was having the same issue

Isnt that a Ztrack?

[JifeLacket]

Yes it is, and to the guy that feels the 'needle scraping over the muscle' you are doing it wrong!

[gsxr750]

thats what i was kinda thinking to kloan...i barely can reach my delt with 1 hand as is lol

Lol.. must be nice!

But seriously you don't have to reach your delt to make the skin on your delt move just try pushing your upper chest or front delt skin to the side with your thumb :)

[LIVEHARD]

Try slower injections take 20-30 seconds to push the plunger in all the way.

Give the quads a try I remember you hate the thought of pinnin your thighs. Up and out works well

??? does gear freeze in the - 4000 weather lol It must be F'kin freezing out you way

Best 7 happy new year

[C-money]

Try slower injections take 20-30 seconds to push the plunger in all the way.

Give the quads a try I remember you hate the thought of pinnin your thighs. Up and out works well

??? does gear freeze in the - 4000 weather lol It must be F'kin freezing out you way

Best 7 happy new year

actually ive been doing quads lately, i just pin slooooooow, havent had any issues yet (knock on wood) ... **** man its so cold here LH i cant handle it buddy! Dying to get on the crotch rocket! Happy New years to you to!, good to see you around again!:greet

[bongd]

Yes it is, and to the guy that feels the 'needle scraping over the muscle' you are doing it wrong!

Naw, even pinning completely parallel I can move my pin a microscopic amount and I can feel the tip dragging against my muscles.

I use a fresh pin after drawing but I have extremely thick skin. I have to ****ing jam needles in myself. I had a friend and a nurse friend pin me out of curiosity and they both commented on it too.

[GYMBRAT]

Do this C-money, guaranteed to work like a charm.....GBs a smartfeller...:D

thats very nice of you my friend. I get the smartness from you :beer

[jacked_to_the_nine]

Hey bros, just chiming in to see if any of you experienced this.... k prior to about 3 weeks ago ive never had 1 injection leak.. now my delts, glutes, sometimes quads are leaking almost every injection... Im using the same gear/pins, shooting it the same depth, using same size injections, rotating spots all the time, letting the oil absorb and pulling the pin out after about a minute.. could this have something to do with increased muscle mass creating more pressure or something, cause i am alot thicker.. i have no idea, any ideas lol:p

ya i've noticed a little leakage as well with my prop/EQ injections, 6 weeks in now and it seems that scar tissue and dense muscle is inevitable... i freeze the area before injection, i figure this would make the oil more viscous after it sits in the frozen muscle, this making it less likley to run out, plus you don't even feel the injection, and after week 5-6, that's not to bad of a bonus... also i hold pressure on the stopper as i pull the needle out at the end of my injection... seems like this works for me.

[L3]

when you guys are pinning in a high use area, does it feel like the needle is passing through different "layers"? kinda like styrofoam....

and to stop leaks im quick on the draw with an alcohol pad :)

[C-money]

when you guys are pinning in a high use area, does it feel like the needle is passing through different "layers"? kinda like styrofoam....

and to stop leaks im quick on the draw with an alcohol pad :)

Ya its like hard layers.. like crunchy/hard tissue.. sometimes takes a good push to bust thru it

[natenator]

Ya its like hard layers.. like crunchy/hard tissue.. sometimes takes a good push to bust thru it
scar tissue

[dremen]

Ill give the z track a go, as well as different areas, im leading to think it is scar tissue building, usually i leave the pin in for like a minute after all the oil is in...

Ya bro it's just scar tissue combined with extra muscle mass. Also if you do not heat the oil pre-injection once it's inside your body it will warm up and expand thus it will leak out of injection site at times. However if you heat the plastic syringe when filled with oil under the tap with hot water it will expand in the syringe and once injected into your body it will contract due to your body temperature being lower then the temp of the oil and leaking from injection site should stop altogether.

This is just my o2 bro.