should I ?

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a buddy is suggesting that i try some product he can get that's not exactly HRT but very close, he told me that GNC had it for like a month then dropped it. it's pill form and would be bought through him only, he also told me that i should use a liver milk product to keep things working right and then in cycle two add in a herbal test booster to make sure my body is still stemmed to make it's on test.
sorry i don't remember the name of the stuff but has anyone heard of such a product that was carried by GNC for a very short time that fits this description?

any other suggestions would be helpful too.

[L3]

sounds like a methylated pro hormone... stay away, your inj test is way more effective

[waderow]

a buddy is suggesting that i try some product he can get that's not exactly HRT but very close, he told me that GNC had it for like a month then dropped it. it's pill form and would be bought through him only, he also told me that i should use a liver milk product to keep things working right and then in cycle two add in a herbal test booster to make sure my body is still stemmed to make it's on test.
sorry i don't remember the name of the stuff but has anyone heard of such a product that was carried by GNC for a very short time that fits this description?

any other suggestions would be helpful too.

I would sooner just spend my money on food, whey, and a new lifting belt

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inj test ?

[L3]

sorry, i thought you were already on HRT and were looking for a boost. reading through your previous posts, that appears to not be the case.

if youre going the oral route, there are better alternatives than what your friend wants to push you. the prohormones are just as harsh if not harsher than the real deal...but it all depends on availability i guess right?

imo, you will need more than a herbal test booster after youre done with your first cycle.

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intresting, he's saying that he got 10lbs of growth in a two bottle cycle; what's the diffrences between the prohormones and the real deal? i wouldn't mind trying somthing mild for a newbe.

[L3]

i think you need to do some more reading :)

[Memo]

most ph after you are done you loose 80% of it anyway...

[PdH]

a buddy is suggesting that i try some product he can get that's not exactly HRT but very close, he told me that GNC had it for like a month then dropped it. it's pill form and would be bought through him only, he also told me that i should use a liver milk product to keep things working right and then in cycle two add in a herbal test booster to make sure my body is still stemmed to make it's on test.
sorry i don't remember the name of the stuff but has anyone heard of such a product that was carried by GNC for a very short time that fits this description?

any other suggestions would be helpful too.

I think your "buddy" is trying to soak you. Also, you really need to know what you're doing before you take the step you're thinking of. Do some research. Lots of research, before you damage yourself.

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will do guys, thanks. better get some new reading glasses.

[theboss]

will do guys, thanks. better get some new reading glasses.

lots to learn when it comes to this....
unfortunatly too many people dont take the time to learn before poking themselves and do it wrong.

[daande]

GNC...I think it was cell-tech by muscletech apparently it contained trace amounts of steroids.

[Repmeister]

GNC...I think it was cell-tech by muscletech apparently it contained trace amounts of steroids.

traces of steroids?? That would be interesting. I'm using this stuff now in post work-out shake along with protein and waxy maze. It's basically just a creatine complex. Maybe I should double up my dose LoL.

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the stuff is called M1T

[PdH]

the stuff is called M1T

I'd suggest you stay away from it. It's very toxic.

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even with the milk thistle consumption?.

Milk thistle (Silybum marianum) has been used since Greco-Roman times as an herbal remedy for a variety of ailments, particularly liver problems. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries physicians in the United States used milk thistle seeds to relieve congestion of the liver, spleen, and kidneys. Today, several scientific studies suggest that active substances in milk thistle (particularly silymarin) protect the liver from damage caused by viruses, toxins, alcohol, and certain drugs such as acetaminophen (a common over the counter medication used for headaches and pain; acetaminophen, also called paracetamol, can cause liver damage if taken in large quantities or by people who drink alcohol regularly).
Milk Thistle Powder, standardized for 80% Silymarin, is used as a liver detoxifier and tonic. It is especially helpful when using orally active prohormones to protect the liver from damage.
Many professional herbalists recommend milk thistle extract for the prevention and/or treatment of various liver disorders including viral hepatitis, fatty liver associated with long term alcohol use, and liver damage from drugs and industrial toxins such as carbon tetrachloride.

[L3]

look into anavar and turinabol, or winstrol if you're hard up for $. all 3 are far superior to M1T

[PdH]

M1T is simply methylated 1-test and it will make you feel like crap and poison you. I'm not sure why you're not accepting our advice, which YOU asked for. If you prefer the advice of your good buddy, who uses M1T, then by all means go ahead. You can do what you want with your liver and kidneys.

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i meant no desrespect pdh, just wanted everyones thoughts; just new to the prohormone area, been working out for years with out crossing that line. thanks for your addvice.

[PdH]

Honestly Bro, stay away from M1T. I think the majority of vets would concur with this. I can get a little terse sometimes in order to make my point if I think someone is going to hurt themselves because of bad advice given by those without any knowledge. There are a lot of much safer options that have been mentioned in your thread. Don't damage yourself. :)

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thanks guys.

[dremen]

intresting, he's saying that he got 10lbs of growth in a two bottle cycle; what's the diffrences between the prohormones and the real deal? i wouldn't mind trying somthing mild for a newbe.

The methyl shit out there know as prohormones are WAY WAY harder on your system compared to test injections and most of the people i have seen on the boards with gyno got it from prohormones. That shit is just poison IMHO.

Get some needles and some test along with some nolva and do a proper cycle bro.

Just my .o2

[rob66679]

a buddy is suggesting that i try some product he can get that's not exactly HRT but very close, he told me that GNC had it for like a month then dropped it. it's pill form and would be bought through him only, he also told me that i should use a liver milk product to keep things working right and then in cycle two add in a herbal test booster to make sure my body is still stemmed to make it's on test.
sorry i don't remember the name of the stuff but has anyone heard of such a product that was carried by GNC for a very short time that fits this description?

any other suggestions would be helpful too.

I see the same mentality with the young guys at my gym. They figure needle= bad..... pill = not so bad. Until they turn yellow and get tits.

That stuff is worse than the real deal. Harsher on your body, and possible sides IE gyno..... which you wouldn't be prepared for. Dreman's right, ****ing poison.... Stay away from it.
At least do some research, its not to hard.

Everybody else pretty much nailed it. You need to do WAY more research, and you need to realize just because its an OTC pill doesn't make it safe.