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btufts
02-01-2010, 03:45 PM
Alright fellas i felt the need to jump on the band wagon with CCH and start my log for the Nova Scotia Provincial contest.

Current stats:
Age: 18
Height: 5'10
Weight: 185

Started Keto diet 3 weeks ago dropped about 20 pounds so far, fat loss is staying steady, still have IMO most if not all muscle i started with. I've been making strength gains even though theres almost no carbs in my diet.

I had an awesome Chest/ Back workout followed by 30 min treadmill. It went something like this.

1. Incline press: 3 sets- 135x10, 185x10, 225x8

2. Deadlifts: 3 sets- 135x10, 315x8, 405 FAIL, 385x1

3. Incline flyes: 3 sets- 40x10, 55x10, 70x10

4. Seated Goodmornings: 3 sets- 95x10 - -

5. Hammerstrength Press: 3 sets- 270x10, 320x6, 270x8

30 min treadmill walking.

btufts
02-01-2010, 04:21 PM
i have no idea man, whens the date? i just hope in in shape for the provincials lol

btufts
02-01-2010, 04:35 PM
Where at? do you have to qualify to be there or what

btufts
02-01-2010, 05:23 PM
foe sure i'd make the trip out there, especially if i do well at provincials :D what organization holds that event? ps information seminar on the 17th at dartmouth sportsplex for provincials at noon!

btufts
02-01-2010, 06:04 PM
For sure man, I'll take notes while i'm there and post what i remember aha its supposed to be like 2 hours long. It'll be a good chance to check out some of the competition ahead. Are you going to go to some of the posing seminars ?

gicantor
02-01-2010, 06:08 PM
Good job I can see the difference from the introduction pics @ 205lbs

btufts
02-01-2010, 06:31 PM
Thank gicantor! I'll be working on some posing tonight seeing as i'm stuck in the house with this snow and no tv woo :)

kloan
02-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Whoa! Great progress for only three weeks on the keto. Wish it worked that well for me!

marino
02-01-2010, 07:32 PM
looking good btufts

btufts
02-01-2010, 08:11 PM
Thanks guys! Appreciate the support, lets hope i look even better on next weeks update. And what happened with the keto diet Kloan?

kloan
02-01-2010, 09:32 PM
No clue, I did it the same way I did it the first time, but this time I introduced carb up meals once a week after 2 weeks. This is the only thing I did different.

I leaned out a bit but weight stayed the same. It did wonders as a prime for my cycle, but I didn't lose much fat at all.

The first time I did keto, I lost 8 lbs in 3 weeks.. mostly water I imagine, and some muscle loss as well.

Every time I asked why it wasn't working for me I was told I "wasn't doing it right". There's really little room for error with the keto diet. Either you eat what the diet dictates, or you don't. I did, and I had little results.

Having said that, I am considering to give it another go but with the help of Test, Var, T3 and Clen. But I am not 100% sure yet if I will bother. I might just do carb cutting instead.

Carb cycling is also something that interests me, but I find it confusing.

btufts
02-01-2010, 09:47 PM
No clue, I did it the same way I did it the first time, but this time I introduced carb up meals once a week after 2 weeks. This is the only thing I did different.

I leaned out a bit but weight stayed the same. It did wonders as a prime for my cycle, but I didn't lose much fat at all.

The first time I did keto, I lost 8 lbs in 3 weeks.. mostly water I imagine, and some muscle loss as well.

Every time I asked why it wasn't working for me I was told I "wasn't doing it right". There's really little room for error with the keto diet. Either you eat what the diet dictates, or you don't. I did, and I had little results.

Having said that, I am considering to give it another go but with the help of Test, Var, T3 and Clen. But I am not 100% sure yet if I will bother. I might just do carb cutting instead.

Carb cycling is also something that interests me, but I find it confusing.


Hmm maybe your calories consumed still were more than you burned off. Were you getting your cardio in daily? I agree with ya about the water loss the first few weeks, i noticed my biggest drop the first 2 weeks which was definately water. Havn't ever dabbled with the anabolics before so i wouldn't know too much about them. I personally love the keto diet and i've done low carb before. I find on low carb you'll crave more carbs, on keto i just dont care about the carbs. Everyone's different though

kloan
03-01-2010, 01:08 AM
I suspect excess calories is likely the cause. Cardio 1hr daily.

laslo101
06-01-2010, 01:39 PM
keto never worked for me either did for 6 weeks and only noticed results the first 2 weeks and then it slowed. my cardio was only 30 min a day though maybe that is why. but also was very dizzy at the gym nearing the end of my work out around 3 weeks in lasted about 2 weeks then i was just weak feeling.

btufts
07-01-2010, 08:01 PM
alright guys here's the update. a few pics up sorry for the terrible quality again lol horrible lighting too. did my carb up meal tonight these were taken after. i was 184.5lbs today things have been going great. trying to work on my calves more and more and still training heavy. feedback please!

natenator
07-01-2010, 08:11 PM
from now on pull up your undies and pull them out of your ass crack. You do not have striated gluts.

Other than that good progress.

btufts
07-01-2010, 08:30 PM
from now on pull up your undies and pull them out of your ass crack. You do not have striated gluts.

Other than that good progress.



Not yet nate not yet... lol sorry for violating your eyes. but thanks

btufts
07-01-2010, 08:39 PM
Good definition coming in! backs looking good... especially that lat shot (2nd pic). Just try not to round out so much on your most muscular pose. You got pretty wide shoulders and you're taking away from them. Looking great though, keep it up!

ahh there's so many different ways to do most muscular, thanks man! and sorry for burning people's eyes lol waiting on the new pics CCH!

btufts
09-01-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm only gonna be doing pics every second week, so ya have a bit to wait yet. Wanna make sure there's progress :)

aha no worries there, i probably wont be posting any for about 2 weeks as progress begins to slow

Delt King
11-01-2010, 12:35 PM
Well changes are still happening...good

Keep at it.

Praetorian
11-01-2010, 05:11 PM
No clue, I did it the same way I did it the first time, but this time I introduced carb up meals once a week after 2 weeks. This is the only thing I did different.

I leaned out a bit but weight stayed the same. It did wonders as a prime for my cycle, but I didn't lose much fat at all.

The first time I did keto, I lost 8 lbs in 3 weeks.. mostly water I imagine, and some muscle loss as well.

Every time I asked why it wasn't working for me I was told I "wasn't doing it right". There's really little room for error with the keto diet. Either you eat what the diet dictates, or you don't. I did, and I had little results.

Having said that, I am considering to give it another go but with the help of Test, Var, T3 and Clen. But I am not 100% sure yet if I will bother. I might just do carb cutting instead.

Carb cycling is also something that interests me, but I find it confusing.

There is plenty of room for error ona keto diet hence all the posts you see on how "it didnt work for me".
Done correctly and with guidance from someone who has experience with it will change your physique in ways you wouldnt believe. Any program is not just diet...anyone can write a diet down and say here go to it....pretty much that will lead to failure. You need the correct amount of macros, cardio, supps, training etc...its a package plan not a simple diet on paper.
P
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btufts
24-01-2010, 11:49 PM
hey everyone, its been a little while since i updated on the contest prep. everything is going well.

for a week or two there i was stuck at 185 but with a few slight tweaks in my diet for a day or two seemed to get the fat loss moving and i'm now sitting at 182. I got my fat done with the calipers the other day and i'm at 8.4%. (how accurate these really are... i know)

everything is on track, i'm still lifting almost as heavy as before but have lost a few pound on some exercises. The diet is going great still sticking with the keto and have tons of energy. I will post up a few pics soon.

B

btufts
24-01-2010, 11:58 PM
horrible lighting and camera again sorry lol

btufts
03-02-2010, 12:15 PM
Lol I'm still going man, I did a protein and veggie day yesterday along with an hour cardio in -15 weather yesterday before breakfast. We'll see what the scale says today

btufts
10-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Well guys, havn't updated for a little while so here it goes. Sitting around 178 this morning, started a fat burner today and its great! animal cuts all the way. Me and the woman broke up the other day after 5 years she's not so much into the bodybuilding aha but i've kept it going, more motivated then ever to do well in the contest. i'm really in my last stages here for weight loss and i'm really focusing on getting my midsection as ripped as possible and bringing my hamstrings out more. posing daily now with a little help from a coach. more determined than ever for this thing and staying really positive. can't wait!

JacktheThriller
10-02-2010, 08:53 PM
hey that breakup will either shoot you skyward or drag you to new lows. a little depression can go along way depression=less social time less social pressure, increased time alone and increased reflection into oneself. Should give you tons of freetime to work on your body

btufts
10-02-2010, 09:49 PM
Haha thanks for the support guys, really I'm just more furious with the woman right now and it has put my intensity and dedication to the gym and diet through the ****ing roof. I'm more dedicated than ever especially to shove it in her face aha. Sorry cam but your going to have to watch out for me! :D I've got so much support from everyone ELSE around me . I'm ready to destroy lol I'd say i'm about 6-7% bf right now and still going hard. Oh **** in ready for war boys

btufts
10-02-2010, 10:57 PM
aahaha alright alrihgt i give you this one, its low quality for friggin sure, i wont show the legs... i'll leave them as a surprise ;)

JacktheThriller
10-02-2010, 11:53 PM
do front lat pose with hands high this one makes you look like you have no back

natenator
11-02-2010, 07:32 AM
coming along nicely. You are not 6-7% BF tho

Talo
11-02-2010, 07:38 AM
coming along nicely. You are not 6-7% BF tho

Agree.

tiramisu
11-02-2010, 07:54 AM
1 ab showing, somewhere between 10 and 12%. Assuming 11% you've got another 10 pounds of fat to go to get down to 6%.

btufts
11-02-2010, 04:25 PM
lol more than one ab showing thats just a horrible picture, i'll take one with my phone later i look really soft in this

drdnj
11-02-2010, 04:51 PM
lol more than one ab showing thats just a horrible picture, i'll take one with my phone later i look really soft in this

6, 8, 11% who cares at this point...go by what the pics tell you, not guesses at arbitrary numbers. Nice to see a young enthusiastic guy keeping at it. Good luck brother.

D

btufts
15-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Hey guys time for the update. Feeling ****ing great this past week! Getting rid of the woman was probably the best thing I could have ever done and my strive is incredible. I'm very confident for top two placing this year aha. Sounds a
bit cocky but that's how you have to think right. I started taking animal cuts this week and holy ****! Veiny as hell, striations all throughout my chest in side chest pose, quads are looking incredible, working hams 2x week, calves are the best I've ever seen, working abs and obliques everyday alternating with weight. My workouts have been insane this week and I've consistantly pushed until I was about to puke or pass out. Very high intensity and short rest times between sets. I'm sitting about 172 right now and new goal weight is 160 SHREDDED. Started at 210 to this is amazing looking at all the hard work I've put into this. I wish the best of luck to everyone else in the show this year and remember, do this for yourself not anyone else!!

bigtavi8
16-02-2010, 12:10 AM
Coming along in your prep very nicely. Remember do not peek to soon. And i know you feel like your the leanest you can get but let me tell you, you have about 10 pounds easy than can go to that 160 goal. Id say practice your posing and find the best way to display your physique. IMO try to stand wide and really spread ur back out to appear wider albeit larger. You may be suprised by the competition and the amount of overall mass it takes to do well at even a regional show. Im in juniours as well and get up to 225 in the offseason at slightly higher bf than you are now. So be cocky by all means becuase it is good for you on stage to be confident. Dont shoot for a place especially if its your first show because you never no who could show up (you could be the best one there OR be in a class with 5 guys lean at 200-220). Just worry about yourself and staying on your diet. Your doing excellent and almost there..

btufts
17-02-2010, 11:19 PM
thanks tav man I appreciate that, I've been working on posing everyday and 160-162 is what i believe i will look my absolute leanest but we'll see, just started doing a little extra cardio this week should help, my midsection is getting more cut up everyday which feels great. 10 pounds will be nothing

btufts
26-02-2010, 07:11 PM
Yes buddy I will be there for sure

btufts
26-02-2010, 08:19 PM
Lol not yet man waiting for the tax refund to come in

Evolution31
06-03-2010, 03:52 PM
Whats your diet look like bro?

btufts
28-03-2010, 02:57 PM
well hello everyone, havn't been on the site much lately, nor the computer. just a little update i'm still on track and looking forward to the contest. 2 weeks out!! as of now i believe i'm well on track... its been rough as hell the past few weeks but i'm making it through. no carbs and constipation really make you want to go crazy thats for sure. I'd like to thank Prae for all his help these past couple weeks for keeping me on track! thank you! cam, can't wait to see ya on stage buddy its gonna be a great show. I've got my posing routine down pat and been practicing everyday. though there's only one real threat this year for me i dont want to mention any names ahaha.

JT.
29-03-2010, 03:10 PM
well hello everyone, havn't been on the site much lately, nor the computer. just a little update i'm still on track and looking forward to the contest. 2 weeks out!! as of now i believe i'm well on track... its been rough as hell the past few weeks but i'm making it through. no carbs and constipation really make you want to go crazy thats for sure. I'd like to thank Prae for all his help these past couple weeks for keeping me on track! thank you! cam, can't wait to see ya on stage buddy its gonna be a great show. I've got my posing routine down pat and been practicing everyday. though there's only one real threat this year for me i dont want to mention any names ahaha.

Only one real threat? I guess your little pre contest cycle is going to your head eh? Last time I checked you only weigh 170lbs, and your 5'10 hahahaha, See you on april 10th.....

ironwill
29-03-2010, 03:42 PM
oh! oh!.......:shock

natenator
29-03-2010, 03:54 PM
Only one real threat? I guess your little pre contest cycle is going to your head eh? Last time I checked you only weigh 170lbs, and your 5'10 hahahaha, See you on april 10th.....
Love it.

bigtavi8
29-03-2010, 04:53 PM
hahah there we go a lil shit disturbing and getting out of the buddy buddy bs. Every man for himself and may the best win. Loving the riff starting tho.

natenator
29-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Don't let him get to ya Tufts. It's an overall class of 11 competitors. It's a granted that there'll be those bigger than others.. but that doesn't mean shit! Lean is big, lean wins the show. Period.
Unless lean AND big show up.

Then you're ****ed.

If I'm judging I am going with the guy who has the size + decent level conditioning over the guy who is super peeled but doesn't have the size.

Getting ripper is easy. Putting on size is not.

Jmany
29-03-2010, 05:33 PM
Unless lean AND big show up.

Then you're ****ed.

If I'm judging I am going with the guy who has the size + decent level conditioning over the guy who is super peeled but doesn't have the size.

Getting ripper is easy. Putting on size is not.

depends how much the difference is.... but very agreed. gettin ripped is dedication, getting bigger is something else altogether

steve_d
29-03-2010, 06:26 PM
let's see some pics. I wanna see how lean you got.

JT.
29-03-2010, 08:46 PM
hahah there we go a lil shit disturbing and getting out of the buddy buddy bs. Every man for himself and may the best win. Loving the riff starting tho.

Oh you need to stirr the pot a bit, its all part of the game. I'm just getting sick and tired of listening to this kid talk like hes already won the show. Let your body do the talking, there is no need to talk yourself up, your 18, and haven't won anything, not to mention its a jr show which means very little in the long run. You can add a new threat to the list, you better be peeled because its hard not to be lean when your 5'10" and 170.

ps, I'm done on this subject, the biggest statement will be made by my physique on april 10th.

MuSuLPhReAk
29-03-2010, 08:55 PM
Post up some pics after the show guys. You got us all interested now on the outcome.

JT.
29-03-2010, 09:15 PM
Just curious Shannon...you're what 6' and what did ya weigh-in at last year?

I'm not shannon dude, shannon is by buddy tho haha. I'm pretty sure shannon was 179 at atlantics (he got really sick right before the show), and was closer to 185-190 at provincals. He'll hit the stage at 198 this year tho, get ready for it.

LondonMuscle
29-03-2010, 09:22 PM
Well certainly an interesting thread here!

What show is this for? I don't think I caught that anywhere

natenator
29-03-2010, 09:31 PM
LM it's for the NSABBA provincials April 10th.
What compounds has he been running!? damn, guess I shoulda been juicing.. tsk tsk.. oh this'll be fun :)

pretty rude bud.

dainbramaged
29-03-2010, 09:45 PM
May be rude but a valid point. But hey, it's not a tested show, so it all levels out.

btufts
30-03-2010, 07:36 AM
Aha oh shit it's funny how these guys talk like they know my life day by day... Jeez we must have a gym snitch running around. Listen big guy.. I don't know if you feel threatened or what because you shouldn't even be worried about throwing off a first time junior who will be appearantly 30 pounds less than whoever. If I'm such a
concern you better get training. I never called first place nor will I probably make top 3, I'm doing this for me and you aren't going to stop me from coming in at MY best April 10th.. You guys get me. Biggest package wins

btufts
30-03-2010, 07:51 AM
Have you competed before Jon ?

steve_d
30-03-2010, 07:55 AM
no one can talk about height and weight like its a big thing. 170 at 5'10 could be excellent with the right proportions / definition. Hell, I was 140 at 5'6 and almost took the overall from the heavyweight at the nsabba provincials 10 years ago. Bartlett even wrote in the column that he thought I had it.

So yeah, 170, 5'10...means nothing. I have seen the pictures, I am guessing under 160 on stage if you get your conditioning and water out correctly. No disrespect, but everyone should stop caring about this winners trophy so much. It makes for a fun thread, but only if its in good fun. Seems like reading between the lines everyone here is talking as though they'll be the type of dude to throw their trophy down if its not the one they wanted. That's not what the sports all about.

btufts
30-03-2010, 07:58 AM
You've seen my recent pics Steve?

steve_d
30-03-2010, 09:02 AM
recent as in 4-5 weeks ago. You were about 172 at that time. Based on those pics, under 160 made sense if you were to be lean enough for on stage after losing water and 6-7 weeks of dieting.

natenator
30-03-2010, 09:29 AM
What do ya mean Nate? it wasn't intended to be rude.. sorry if it across that way to whomever. Whoever wins deserve it! Plain and simple, and I'll be there first to shake their hand! But a 10-15lb muscle gain in a year is damn impressive, if that's the case, wow, props!

I wasn't legitimately asking what compounds he was running, if that's what you're implying.. I was simply "thinking outloud". Internet...

...opposed to the fact that I said "oh this'll be fun", which I genuinely meant.. I can't wait!
Was the attribution that his gains were a direct result of his usage IF there was/is any.

btufts
30-03-2010, 09:35 AM
recent as in 4-5 weeks ago. You were about 172 at that time. Based on those pics, under 160 made sense if you were to be lean enough for on stage after losing water and 6-7 weeks of dieting.

Hmmm are you sure? At that time I was probably closer to 190, I'm only about 176 right now. I can send you a recent pic if you want to speculate

natenator
30-03-2010, 09:35 AM
Aha oh shit it's funny how these guys talk like they know my life day by day... Jeez we must have a gym snitch running around. Listen big guy.. I don't know if you feel threatened or what because you shouldn't even be worried about throwing off a first time junior who will be appearantly 30 pounds less than whoever. If I'm such a
concern you better get training. I never called first place nor will I probably make top 3, I'm doing this for me and you aren't going to stop me from coming in at MY best April 10th.. You guys get me. Biggest package wins
It was your assertion that you only had one competitor you had to worry about.

Confidence is a good thing but cocky is entirely different. There will always be someone bigger, better conditioned than you. Maybe not in your current show but at one down the road and that cocky attitude is what will get you into trouble.

I prefer to hold the opinion that I am the underdog and that everyone will be better than I. I use that to my advantage to ensure I have the right people in my corner helping with my prep and hauling myself hauling ass leaving no stone unturned.

steve_d
30-03-2010, 11:14 AM
Hmmm are you sure? At that time I was probably closer to 190, I'm only about 176 right now. I can send you a recent pic if you want to speculate

As below, you posted this a few days after posting your last picture. Sure, send me a recent pic to speculate. There is no harm competing at 160. It was your goal a while ago, and if you were 172 at that point, 160 is a realistic goal.


Hey guys time for the update. I'm sitting about 172 right now and new goal weight is 160 SHREDDED.

ultmjunior
30-03-2010, 01:35 PM
Alright boys this is shannon now.

Btufts goes around telling everyone hes won juniors. I've seen his progress pics, and btufts has been doing extremely well coming down from 205.
He has told people he will be a national jr. AND CCH why dont u ask brandon about his stack before you comment on mine. I compete and am sponsored naturally.

I am a powerlifter and with a natural raw 455 bench, 635 deadlift and 585 squat. Thats how i got to 250. I now weigh 215 at under 5 percent. Ill be onstage at 197 or 198, whether i choose to do heavy or lightheavy at atlantics.

Brandon keep working hard. Stop running your mouth because unless you come in leaner than me (doubtful) and somehow gain 50 pounds, yiou should stop talking so much.

JT is making a point not that hell beat you, but that you should be more modest instead of working your jaw. Hop on that inclined treadmill and shut the **** up.

natenator
30-03-2010, 01:44 PM
Alright boys this is shannon now.

Btufts goes around telling everyone hes won juniors. I've seen his progress pics, and btufts has been doing extremely well coming down from 205.
He has told people he will be a national jr. AND CCH why dont u ask brandon about his stack before you comment on mine. I compete and am sponsored naturally.

I am a powerlifter and with a natural raw 455 bench, 635 deadlift and 585 squat. Thats how i got to 250. I now weigh 215 at under 5 percent. Ill be onstage at 197 or 198, whether i choose to do heavy or lightheavy at atlantics.

Brandon keep working hard. Stop running your mouth because unless you come in leaner than me (doubtful) and somehow gain 50 pounds, yiou should stop talking so much.

JT is making a point not that hell beat you, but that you should be more modest instead of working your jaw. Hop on that inclined treadmill and shut the **** up.
I heart you already

phatty
30-03-2010, 01:50 PM
Shit just got real son!!

MuSuLPhReAk
30-03-2010, 01:52 PM
Talk about generating hype for a show!

Most of the people now reading this thread want to see the outcome.

natenator
30-03-2010, 02:00 PM
Shit just got real son!!
I lol'd

Delt King
30-03-2010, 02:04 PM
Oh to be a young buck again!

laslo101
30-03-2010, 03:35 PM
can't wait to see all the pics of who takes the show even between these guys..definitely entertaining and exciting

btufts
30-03-2010, 05:04 PM
Alright boys this is shannon now.

Btufts goes around telling everyone hes won juniors. I've seen his progress pics, and btufts has been doing extremely well coming down from 205.
He has told people he will be a national jr. AND CCH why dont u ask brandon about his stack before you comment on mine. I compete and am sponsored naturally.

I am a powerlifter and with a natural raw 455 bench, 635 deadlift and 585 squat. Thats how i got to 250. I now weigh 215 at under 5 percent. Ill be onstage at 197 or 198, whether i choose to do heavy or lightheavy at atlantics.

Brandon keep working hard. Stop running your mouth because unless you come in leaner than me (doubtful) and somehow gain 50 pounds, yiou should stop talking so much.

JT is making a point not that hell beat you, but that you should be more modest instead of working your jaw. Hop on that inclined treadmill and shut the **** up.


dude you just love finding me online don't you. I never claimed first place and you keep claiming i'm running my mouth to people about you. Whoever is telling you about things i'm saying must be highly exadurated because i've been keeping to myself about this whole ordeal. This is my first show, i do powerlifting in the off season as well. Like I said and cch agrees. Doing 4 months of prep for a show is grueling enough; competing against 15 others doing the same thing is even tougher, thats why i'm not focusing on placements. This is all a personal challenge for myself, juicing or not its still tough as hell. And you havn't seen my progress pictures except for the ONE i posted up weeks ago which doesn't even compare to my conditioning right now. trust me. I'm doing welterweight this year instead of worrying about competing against people 30 pounds heavier than me. Shannon, I've never met you buddy but i wish you all the luck this year and I know you train hard. Just don't act like everyone else doesn't.

btufts
30-03-2010, 05:34 PM
either way i'll get ****ed up with ya that night, cause some shit downtown and eat a few donairs when its all said and done

MuSuLPhReAk
30-03-2010, 05:40 PM
That's the spirit. Green for you.

maxpower
30-03-2010, 07:07 PM
dude you just love finding me online don't you. I never claimed first place and you keep claiming i'm running my mouth to people about you. Whoever is telling you about things i'm saying must be highly exadurated because i've been keeping to myself about this whole ordeal. This is my first show, i do powerlifting in the off season as well. Like I said and cch agrees. Doing 4 months of prep for a show is grueling enough; competing against 15 others doing the same thing is even tougher, thats why i'm not focusing on placements. This is all a personal challenge for myself, juicing or not its still tough as hell. And you havn't seen my progress pictures except for the ONE i posted up weeks ago which doesn't even compare to my conditioning right now. trust me. I'm doing welterweight this year instead of worrying about competing against people 30 pounds heavier than me. Shannon, I've never met you buddy but i wish you all the luck this year and I know you train hard. Just don't act like everyone else doesn't.

I understand your point/concern regarding competing in an open weight class...the same potential gap occurs in the masters class as well. For example, the difference between the lightest and the heaviest in the masters class last year was around 70 lbs. However, the lightest placed higher than the heaviest. Imagine that... David beating Goliath :) My suggestion...compete where you truly belong (juniors) and have a freakin' blast! I am going to be the oldest and the lightest in the heavies this year...giving up 50lbs to one of the competitiors...I CANT WAIT! See you next week!

btufts
30-03-2010, 07:43 PM
Thanks max! cch has been hyping you up this whole time i can't wait to see the finished product haha maybe I will do juniors.............. i'm undecided still.

natenator
30-03-2010, 08:41 PM
It's just a different type of muscle/look/maturity/grain... really, it's just a different ball game when you start to consider competing against those who've done this for years! If you look at Chris Johnson or Chris O'leary, past winners.. it's just no comparison. All that matters is that you get on stage. You've done a hell of a job thus far, you deserve to be proud of yourself! But in terms of competing I'd stay to stick with jr's, although it is an open weight class you'll be in with your own and more competitive!

Here's a buddy of mine who one the Sask jr's twice, @ 165 and natural! vvv It was the same thing. He was up against guys 180-90+ and destroyed umm! Conditioning my friend...
he also has some size on him it looks like. Short?

natenator
30-03-2010, 08:49 PM
5'10" !
Good proportions then.

Still content size + decent conditioning wins the majority of the time. At least here in Ontario it generally does.

If you look liek a swimmer and are ripped you lose.

steve_d
30-03-2010, 08:51 PM
I'm doing welterweight this year instead of worrying about competing against people 30 pounds heavier than me.

don't do that...compete in junior. Don't worry about juniors that weigh more than you. Like I said before, weight doesn't matter.

What no one has really mentioned yet that I think alot of you first timers are forgetting is that its not just leanness, or size, or proportions. but if your posing sucks, then all those things wont matter. Or, if your posing is awesome, you can get away with less of those things being bang on.

natenator
30-03-2010, 08:53 PM
don't do that...compete in junior. Don't worry about juniors that weigh more than you. Like I said before, weight doesn't matter.

What no one has really mentioned yet that I think alot of you first timers are forgetting is that its not just leanness, or size, or proportions. but if your posing sucks, then all those things wont matter. Or, if your posing is awesome, you can get away with less of those things being bang on.
this is very true. Many do not know how to pose let alone pose for their body to best display it. Very true!

JT.
31-03-2010, 10:19 AM
Alright boys this is shannon now.

Btufts goes around telling everyone hes won juniors. I've seen his progress pics, and btufts has been doing extremely well coming down from 205.
He has told people he will be a national jr. AND CCH why dont u ask brandon about his stack before you comment on mine. I compete and am sponsored naturally.

I am a powerlifter and with a natural raw 455 bench, 635 deadlift and 585 squat. Thats how i got to 250. I now weigh 215 at under 5 percent. Ill be onstage at 197 or 198, whether i choose to do heavy or lightheavy at atlantics.

Brandon keep working hard. Stop running your mouth because unless you come in leaner than me (doubtful) and somehow gain 50 pounds, yiou should stop talking so much.

JT is making a point not that hell beat you, but that you should be more modest instead of working your jaw. Hop on that inclined treadmill and shut the **** up.

Thank god you finally joined the fourm you gongshow, I don't think you could have said that any better ahaha. Shannon is good shit, I gotta hand it too him hes been living the bodybuilding lifestyle. In my offseason I drank my face off and ate whatever, and missed workouts, thus my 225lbs on a 5'8 frame offseason weight lol. If you wanna take it to the next level you really need to live bodybuilding 24/7 even if you aren't doing a contest diet.

btufts
12-04-2010, 07:26 PM
well guys, contest is over now... came up 6th place. not quite what i was hoping for but i came in quite a bit more bloated than i wanted to. I was 190 at the weigh in. everyone was looking great that night! congrats to cch and shannon and the rest of the boys who came top 5. here are a few pictures of when i was at my best condition about 2 weeks out. i weighed about 172.5 here...

bigtavi8
12-04-2010, 08:15 PM
Helluva job for first show and you had some realll tough competition no BS. You did your absolute best but what happened in the last weeks leading up to cause the sudden weight influx. Got in trouble with carb loading or water depletion? Got sick?

btufts
12-04-2010, 08:17 PM
ran out of a few things at a bad time, terrible digestion problems, water retention... just poor preparation on my behalf. its okay, it was my first show and everyone was looking great, i had a great time and everyone was awesome. i'm just focusing on putting some serious lean mass on this year in the off season to really play with for next year. a whole lot of heavy heavy basic lifting should do the trick. 3 more years of juniors cant complain ahah

Delt King
12-04-2010, 10:06 PM
It's too bad the last couple weeks didn't pan out for you but the pics you just posted is a remarkable accomplishment, i'm actually quite impressed. Your waist came down very well. work on those wheels in the offseason and the class will be yours.

countrychic
13-04-2010, 08:47 AM
Great job, you worked your ass off, did the best you could and got up on stage be very proud!! It is all a learning experiance that is for sure. Figuring out what works and what doesn't.

You look great :)

btufts
13-04-2010, 12:22 PM
Thanks everyone! its these kind of comments that keep me wanting to push harder and further to really bring out my potential. This year is going to be great. I'm preparing for this show as of now, everything will be planned out. Can't wait!

Andre
13-04-2010, 01:26 PM
Thanks everyone! its these kind of comments that keep me wanting to push harder and further to really bring out my potential. This year is going to be great. I'm preparing for this show as of now, everything will be planned out. Can't wait!

Really impressive! One bit of advice, I would focus on doing alot of unilateral arm excersises... will help even out your left/right symmetry!

btufts
13-04-2010, 01:33 PM
haha yeah i knoww about my arms, completely different bicep heads, the funny part is the smaller bicep (left) is stronger than the right!


Really impressive! One bit of advice, I would focus
on doing alot of unilateral arm excersises... will help even out your left/right symmetry!

laslo101
13-04-2010, 04:22 PM
insane man your waist really looks small compared to before great work !!

CreatineAmonster
14-04-2010, 10:54 AM
I don't know how much difference there was between those pics and when you did the show but I want to say congrats on not backing out. It must have been tough mentally to realize you were not going to be as ready as you were a week or 2 earlier and it would have been easy to say screw it and not did the show so congrats on seeing it through man that says alot to your character. :greet

btufts
14-04-2010, 02:30 PM
I don't know how much difference there was between those pics and when you did the show but I want to say congrats on not backing out. It must have been tough mentally to realize you were not going to be as ready as you were a week or 2 earlier and it would have been easy to say screw it and not did the show so congrats on seeing it through man that says alot to your character. :greet


It was a bit of a blow to the ego thats for sure, but i just went out on stage and did my very best, smiled at everyone and rocked my routine. i figured i came this far theres no way i'm backing out now even if i was too bloated. plus i'll have the experience for next year and i met a ton of new people which is great! it was a great weekend thats for sure

Praetorian
16-04-2010, 10:36 AM
It was a bit of a blow to the ego thats for sure, but i just went out on stage and did my very best, smiled at everyone and rocked my routine. i figured i came this far theres no way i'm backing out now even if i was too bloated. plus i'll have the experience for next year and i met a ton of new people which is great! it was a great weekend thats for sure

17lbs of water is a huge issue...if you got 6th looking like that you would have done much better if you had gotten your digestion under control and were not dealing with any rebound effects.
P

btufts
16-04-2010, 10:54 AM
Think about how I would have placed at 168 or so p.... I would have made top 3 easily. We'll have a good bulk season this year and have everything gotten in advance so we don't run into these proplems again. 3 more years of juniors we'll do very well next year

natenator
16-04-2010, 11:10 AM
Think about how I would have placed at 168 or so p.... I would have made top 3 easily. We'll have a good bulk season this year and have everything gotten in advance so we don't run into these proplems again. 3 more years of juniors we'll do very well next year
I personally wouldn't step on stage again until last year of junior. Gain slow and steady over the next 2.5 yrs and step on stage and blow shit away.

I know junior guys who competed 3 and 4 years in a row and I felt it really killed their growth potential to the point where they looked average on stage with guys their age.

steve_d
16-04-2010, 02:51 PM
^agreed. I competed when I was 17, 18, 19, and 20. and even though I looked better each year, and enjoyed it like crazy, I am sure it slowed my progress. No biggy though. Back in those days, we didn't need to be as crazy ripped, so it didn't really effect my progress as much as it could have.

btufts
17-04-2010, 11:04 AM
haha what would i even do in those 2 or so years.... i love the feeling and all the hype coming up to the contest it would be strange not doing it again next year. PS thanks for the title change admin!!

natenator
17-04-2010, 11:18 AM
haha what would i even do in those 2 or so years.... i love the feeling and all the hype coming up to the contest it would be strange not doing it again next year. PS thanks for the title change admin!!
its called growing and getting those chicken legs up to par.

Competing every year is stupid. Its ego. Bodybuilders take the time to make the improvements and step on stage again when they've made those improvements over their last showing.

2 years is a lot of growing time. Use it unless your ego gets the best of you (as it does with younger competitors).

bigtavi8
17-04-2010, 11:27 AM
btufts i no the feeling. Working towards a goal such as a show makes me so focused. Last year as soon as i finished i was like ok whats next. But then i decided to take a full year off to grow and like yourself my legs needed some work (dont everyones). So i focused on fixing my lagging areas and staying relatively lean and now my prep is unveiling all my hard work.

Everyone is basicly just warning ya not to overdo it with shows so you dont limit your bulk by consistently dieting. Its productive to have a offseason where you put on great mass then do a diet for the show. I agree tho 2 full years is a long time to not do shows but its up to you its your life and you know your body.

btufts
17-04-2010, 11:46 AM
its called growing and getting those chicken legs up to par.

Competing every year is stupid. Its ego. Bodybuilders take the time to make the improvements and step on stage again when they've made those improvements over their last showing.

2 years is a lot of growing time. Use it unless your ego gets the best of you (as it does with younger competitors).

haha nate you talk like you've been in this position before ;).... i keep hearing about bodybuilders who don't "bulk" at all, but rather maintain their leanness all year around... would this build quality lean muscle or what? i just don't want to be a big fat **** like i was last year haha. i was 210 last december with a lot less knowledge before i started dietting for the show and now i'm about 200, way leaner, but i still feel outta shape. Also, its strange not following a strict diet anymore... i've been keeping the carbs pretty low still but i went out for dinner last night and felt like i was cheating myself. i was full all night. my appetite is disgustingly large since the show

btufts
17-04-2010, 11:51 AM
btufts i no the feeling. Working towards a goal such as a show makes me so focused. Last year as soon as i finished i was like ok whats next. But then i decided to take a full year off to grow and like yourself my legs needed some work (dont everyones). So i focused on fixing my lagging areas and staying relatively lean and now my prep is unveiling all my hard work.

Everyone is basicly just warning ya not to overdo it with shows so you dont limit your bulk by consistently dieting. Its productive to have a offseason where you put on great mass then do a diet for the show. I agree tho 2 full years is a long time to not do shows but its up to you its your life and you know your body.

I know what your saying tav, although its hard keeping lean when your bulking! especially when you want to eat everything in sight ahah

natenator
17-04-2010, 12:00 PM
haha nate you talk like you've been in this position before ;).... i keep hearing about bodybuilders who don't "bulk" at all, but rather maintain their leanness all year around... would this build quality lean muscle or what? i just don't want to be a big fat **** like i was last year haha. i was 210 last december with a lot less knowledge before i started dietting for the show and now i'm about 200, way leaner, but i still feel outta shape. Also, its strange not following a strict diet anymore... i've been keeping the carbs pretty low still but i went out for dinner last night and felt like i was cheating myself. i was full all night. my appetite is disgustingly large since the show
nope I haven't but I've seen lots of my friends who compete every year and they barely look any different the following years. They maintain a lean physique year round because they like the attention they get from girls.

Staying lean is fine when you have an appreciable amount of mass. Not be a dick but you definitely do not have that. I say bulk. Do it smartly but bulk and grow. Yes you will get fat but if you can put on 8-15lbs of MUSCLE in the next 2.5yrs it will completely change your look.

Plan this out and you'll be able to stay semi lean AND grow at the same time. You need time to grow because I can assure you if you plan to compete out of Juniors then you will get ass raped. Guys who are older, bigger and more experienced. They've taken the time to add the required size over time. You do it right and you'll be able to stand on stage with them and not look out of place.

Competing every year hinders growth.

btufts
17-04-2010, 12:17 PM
nope I haven't but I've seen lots of my friends who compete every year and they barely look any different the following years. They maintain a lean physique year round because they like the attention they get from girls.

Staying lean is fine when you have an appreciable amount of mass. Not be a dick but you definitely do not have that. I say bulk. Do it smartly but bulk and grow. Yes you will get fat but if you can put on 8-15lbs of MUSCLE in the next 2.5yrs it will completely change your look.

Plan this out and you'll be able to stay semi lean AND grow at the same time. You need time to grow because I can assure you if you plan to compete out of Juniors then you will get ass raped. Guys who are older, bigger and more experienced. They've taken the time to add the required size over time. You do it right and you'll be able to stand on stage with them and not look out of place.

Competing every year hinders growth.

thats what i find hard is planning out how to bulk up. i end up eating a ton, gain 10 pounds and plateau. I'm VERY carb sensitive and i hold a ton of water/ fat when i over consume, especially in my stomach... i need a plan

natenator
17-04-2010, 12:28 PM
So, create yourself a plan and stick to it. Adding calories every couple weeks as progress stalls.

Or hire someone to create the plan for you.

btufts
17-04-2010, 12:35 PM
So, create yourself a plan and stick to it. Adding calories every couple weeks as progress stalls.

Or hire someone to create the plan for you.

that sounds like the plan... I'll have p help me out after i get back from cubaa

natenator
17-04-2010, 12:38 PM
btw, I'm not saying to bulk 24/7 for 2 years straight as I do think a quick 6-8 weeks of dieting in betweeen to drop a bit of BF and get at'er again is beneficial but its a far cry from dieting for a show twice in that 2 year period.

btufts
17-04-2010, 12:45 PM
btw, I'm not saying to bulk 24/7 for 2 years straight as I do think a quick 6-8 weeks of dieting in betweeen to drop a bit of BF and get at'er again is beneficial but its a far cry from dieting for a show twice in that 2 year period.

absolutely... 32 weeks is just a little longer than 16 weeks over 2 years haha. i really just want to change my physique completely this year... i'l definately be training smarter and eating smarter rather than killing a few donairs every week and eating whatever i want. more wholesome foods, less shakes too