View Full Version : Omnadren or Sust Kar 250
con_man
12-02-2008, 08:24 PM
Hey bro's need help. Have access to omna and sust kar is there a major diff between the 2. Am leaning toward trying the omna, never tried it. Tried the sust and had good results cycling with a-drol.
Any help with omna or sust
beserker
12-02-2008, 08:33 PM
I would lose the prices on those amps dude , against rule #6 !
Mr Ontario
12-02-2008, 08:35 PM
S250 is S250 Take the one that may not be faked the most or as of recently!
con_man
12-02-2008, 08:37 PM
thnx berserker, wasn't aware of rule 6, am new to this. Sorry bro's
gustavo77
12-02-2008, 10:38 PM
Omna now are the same esters as sust only much cheaper and rarely faked. Go with the omna bro, i have done them twice this past year and was very satisfied both times.
italian_muscle
12-02-2008, 10:48 PM
since when did omnadren 250 have the same esters as sustanon 250?
Turtle
12-02-2008, 11:20 PM
omnadren is no longer made! so watch out for fakes soon enough.
mcgee
12-02-2008, 11:21 PM
I only here good things about omna's
simon85
13-02-2008, 12:08 AM
omnadren is no longer made! so watch out for fakes soon enough.
Hey.
Omnas are still in production. They just reduced the quantity. That's why the price increased. Also, it's been confirmed with jelfa
gustavo77
13-02-2008, 06:15 AM
since when did omnadren 250 have the same esters as sustanon 250?
Here is a post originally posted by GearandSauce on outlaw:
"OLD OMNADREN (prior of fall 2000)
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isohexanoate 60 mg
Testosterone hexanoate 100mg
NEW OMNADREN (after fall 2000)
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone caprinicum 100mg
Caproate: Chemical Structure C6H12O2.
Also referred to as Hexanoic acid; hexanoate; n-Caproic Acid; n-Hexoic acid; butylacetic acid; pentiformic acid; pentylformic acid; n-hexylic acid; 1-pentanecarboxylic acid; hexoic acid; 1-hexanoic acid; Hexylic acid; Caproic acid. This ester is identical to isocarpoate in terms of atom count and weight, but is laid out slightly different (Isocaproate has a split configuration, difficult to explain here but easy to see on paper). Release duration would be very similar to isocaproate (levels sustained for approximately one weak), perhaps coming slightly closer to enanthate due to its straight chain. Caproate is the slowest releasing ester used in Omnadren, which is why most athletes notice more water retention with this compound.
Caproate (Caproic acid) is not the same as
Caprinicum (Capric acid) OK !!!!
Caprinicum = capric acid NOT Caproic acid
So Capronicum is different name for Deconate.
Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month, although most recently we are finding that levels seem to drop significantly after two weeks. To keep blood levels more uniform, athletes (as they have always known to do) will follow a weekly injection schedule.
SUSTANON 250
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone decanoate 100mg
Therefore: OMNADREN 250 = SUSTANON 250 formula wise at least.
SO THE ONLY REASON JELFA NAMES DECONATE AS CAPRONICUM (CAPRIC) DUE TO PATENT FORMULA HELD BY ORGANON BUT GENETIC NAMES CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE PATENTED."
Turtle
13-02-2008, 08:20 AM
Hey.
Omnas are still in production. They just reduced the quantity. That's why the price increased. Also, it's been confirmed with jelfa
hmmm i was told by someone in the know that they are no longer bieng produced but i guess he could be wrong.
ergie
13-02-2008, 09:58 AM
omnadren is no longer made! so watch out for fakes soon enough.
Not true bud, they are just harder to obtain because the maker is only selling the to legit pharms.
BIGPOPPAPUMP
13-02-2008, 05:02 PM
IMO go with omnadren, Its cheaper and works the same as sust.
Here is a post originally posted by GearandSauce on outlaw:
"OLD OMNADREN (prior of fall 2000)
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isohexanoate 60 mg
Testosterone hexanoate 100mg
NEW OMNADREN (after fall 2000)
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone caprinicum 100mg
Caproate: Chemical Structure C6H12O2.
Also referred to as Hexanoic acid; hexanoate; n-Caproic Acid; n-Hexoic acid; butylacetic acid; pentiformic acid; pentylformic acid; n-hexylic acid; 1-pentanecarboxylic acid; hexoic acid; 1-hexanoic acid; Hexylic acid; Caproic acid. This ester is identical to isocarpoate in terms of atom count and weight, but is laid out slightly different (Isocaproate has a split configuration, difficult to explain here but easy to see on paper). Release duration would be very similar to isocaproate (levels sustained for approximately one weak), perhaps coming slightly closer to enanthate due to its straight chain. Caproate is the slowest releasing ester used in Omnadren, which is why most athletes notice more water retention with this compound.
Caproate (Caproic acid) is not the same as
Caprinicum (Capric acid) OK !!!!
Caprinicum = capric acid NOT Caproic acid
So Capronicum is different name for Deconate.
Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month, although most recently we are finding that levels seem to drop significantly after two weeks. To keep blood levels more uniform, athletes (as they have always known to do) will follow a weekly injection schedule.
SUSTANON 250
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone decanoate 100mg
Therefore: OMNADREN 250 = SUSTANON 250 formula wise at least.
SO THE ONLY REASON JELFA NAMES DECONATE AS CAPRONICUM (CAPRIC) DUE TO PATENT FORMULA HELD BY ORGANON BUT GENETIC NAMES CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE PATENTED."
Lol, I tried telling people this when they first switched formulas, but everyone seemed to think it was different. SAME PRODUCT, DIFFERENT NAME because of the PATENT..
gustavo77
13-02-2008, 06:35 PM
Lol, I tried telling people this when they first switched formulas, but everyone seemed to think it was different. SAME PRODUCT, DIFFERENT NAME because of the PATENT..
Yup somebody should tell those guys at MD...lol. They printed that article about Omnadren, boasting how sust was so much more superior...ya, in price that is..lol.
Dr.Dose
13-02-2008, 08:50 PM
Here is a post originally posted by GearandSauce on outlaw:
"OLD OMNADREN (prior of fall 2000)
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isohexanoate 60 mg
Testosterone hexanoate 100mg
NEW OMNADREN (after fall 2000)
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone caprinicum 100mg
Caproate: Chemical Structure C6H12O2.
Also referred to as Hexanoic acid; hexanoate; n-Caproic Acid; n-Hexoic acid; butylacetic acid; pentiformic acid; pentylformic acid; n-hexylic acid; 1-pentanecarboxylic acid; hexoic acid; 1-hexanoic acid; Hexylic acid; Caproic acid. This ester is identical to isocarpoate in terms of atom count and weight, but is laid out slightly different (Isocaproate has a split configuration, difficult to explain here but easy to see on paper). Release duration would be very similar to isocaproate (levels sustained for approximately one weak), perhaps coming slightly closer to enanthate due to its straight chain. Caproate is the slowest releasing ester used in Omnadren, which is why most athletes notice more water retention with this compound.
Caproate (Caproic acid) is not the same as
Caprinicum (Capric acid) OK !!!!
Caprinicum = capric acid NOT Caproic acid
So Capronicum is different name for Deconate.
Decanoate: Chemical Structure C10H20O2.
Also referred to as decanoic acid; capric acid; caprinic acid; decylic acid, Nonanecarboxylic acid. The Decanoate ester is most commonly used with the hormone nandrolone (as in Deca-Durabolin) and is found in virtually all corners of the world. Testosterone decanoate is also the longest acting constituent in Sustanon, greatly extending its release duration. The release time with Decanoate compounds is listed to be as long as one month, although most recently we are finding that levels seem to drop significantly after two weeks. To keep blood levels more uniform, athletes (as they have always known to do) will follow a weekly injection schedule.
SUSTANON 250
Testosterone phenylproprionate 60 mg
Testosterone proprionate 30 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone decanoate 100mg
Therefore: OMNADREN 250 = SUSTANON 250 formula wise at least.
SO THE ONLY REASON JELFA NAMES DECONATE AS CAPRONICUM (CAPRIC) DUE TO PATENT FORMULA HELD BY ORGANON BUT GENETIC NAMES CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE PATENTED."
LOL, I remeber this post ;-). But did not make it on outlaw, I guess it got around very quickly. lol
Dr.Dose
13-02-2008, 08:53 PM
Hey.
Omnas are still in production. They just reduced the quantity. That's why the price increased. Also, it's been confirmed with jelfa
Really, and who confirmed this with Jelfa??? Did you or is this one of those things, "well I heard it has been confirmed"? There is still real omna left on the market as the production was not stopped that long ago. But currently nothing is being produced by Jelfa!
ergie
13-02-2008, 09:33 PM
^^ why is is still listed as avalible on the Jelfa web site then?
Mr Ontario
13-02-2008, 10:02 PM
True!
Really, and who confirmed this with Jelfa??? Did you or is this one of those things, "well I heard it has been confirmed"? There is still real omna left on the market as the production was not stopped that long ago. But currently nothing is being produced by Jelfa!
Dr.Dose
13-02-2008, 10:18 PM
^^ why is is still listed as avalible on the Jelfa web site then?
The product is still available on the market bro, it will be available till 2011 as that was the last EXP date that they stamped. It is still available in pharmacy as well. Availability and production are two separate things here keep in mind. Also this is a general guide line of Jelfa products that were manufactured, you cannot just go and buy from Jelfa online or anything. Another thing to keep in mind is that Jelfa does not update their website all that often either. Trust me, a lot of people are hurting that Jelfa stopped the production and but as it is right now nothing is being produced still. Same goes for Test Prolongatum and Metanabol as well.
Dr.Dose
13-02-2008, 11:22 PM
Dr.Dose is the man...
Thanks bro
PUMPON
14-02-2008, 12:34 AM
That was my first cycle the old omna's the blue box and black print right on the amps, Then they changed to the new formula they went with the pink boxes with the paper on the amp. The old omna's never gave me the sust flu either even though there was only a slight change.
gustavo77
14-02-2008, 02:03 AM
LOL, I remeber this post ;-). But did not make it on outlaw, I guess it got around very quickly. lol
Sorry bro, i did not know that it was your post...your right though good info travels fast.
Dr.Dose
14-02-2008, 02:54 AM
Sorry bro, i did not know that it was your post...your right though good info travels fast.
hey bro, :-). All good, I did not mean it like that at all. It was just funny as I remembered when I was writing this post and had pics and all with it on MN there. It was one of my very first posts there, like 4 years ago.
gustavo77
14-02-2008, 11:35 AM
hey bro, :-). All good, I did not mean it like that at all. It was just funny as I remembered when I was writing this post and had pics and all with it on MN there. It was one of my very first posts there, like 4 years ago.
I hear ya bro, i just like to give credit for good info where credit is due. :)
shithead
14-02-2008, 12:20 PM
Now ancedotal reports say that Karachi sust have been discontinued. Any truth to this?
Mr Ontario
14-02-2008, 12:28 PM
Discontinued or not..they are still obtainable! :)
Now ancedotal reports say that Karachi sust have been discontinued. Any truth to this?
ergie
14-02-2008, 01:18 PM
I love human grade gear but I hate worrying about fakes :(
Mr Ontario
14-02-2008, 02:21 PM
Bullshitter ..You love your underground! :)
I love human grade gear but I hate worrying about fakes :(
ergie
14-02-2008, 02:42 PM
Bullshitter ..You love your underground! :)
lol some of it's ok but I prefer amps
Dr.Dose
14-02-2008, 09:03 PM
Now ancedotal reports say that Karachi sust have been discontinued. Any truth to this?
Incorrect! They are still made, so not to worry :-)
Mr Ontario
14-02-2008, 09:06 PM
For fack sakes find a better source instead of all these overseas scammers. lol :)
I love human grade gear but I hate worrying about fakes :(
gustavo77
14-02-2008, 09:39 PM
For fack sakes find a better source instead of all these overseas scammers. lol :)
You never know anymore....but the guy did finally make good with Ferg.
Mr Ontario
14-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Ya bro,,,I'm just bugging him. lol
You never know anymore....but the guy did finally make good with Ferg.
gustavo77
14-02-2008, 10:57 PM
Ya bro,,,I'm just bugging him. lol
I know..lol...i like bustin' his balls too....lol.
Canadian Bodybuilding
15-02-2008, 03:17 AM
I love omna's and the twinking sound when the amps hit eachother.
phatkid77
28-04-2008, 03:21 AM
they are officially done now tho, correct?
Juicy_brucy
28-04-2008, 03:33 AM
I love omna's and the twinking sound when the amps hit eachother.
Me too, it's music to my ears.
I also love the way they all look soo pretty, like christmas lights.
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