Combining short and long test esters

[Repmeister]

Hi guys
I'm planning out my next cycle which will incorporate a short ester test to eliminate the front end lag before the long esters kick in. I have only used long esters til now and would appreciate some help. My question is when starting with a short ester like prop used every other day do you also start the long ester at the same time or do you simply start taking the enanth after about three weeks when test levels have built up? In other words, would it like like example 1 or 2 below

Example 1
Week 1 to 15 test enanth
Week 1 to 3 test prop

Example 2
Week 1 to 3 test prop
Week 3 to 15 test enanth

Also, would it make sense to incorporate an oral like dbol or anadrol for the first four weeks or is that just too much possible estrogen conversion.

[waderow]

1-2 test prop
1-15 test e

Dbol IMO s/b 8-12 or something.

[gicantor]

1-2 test prop
1-15 test e

Dbol IMO s/b 8-12 or something.

^^^this

[St]

You can take Sus the perfect stack 4 ester,4 times the growth.;)
But for a oral i would take T-bol,or Var with your cycle.The problem with d-bol,or anadrol it mostly all water and once you come off the stuff you lose most of it if not all ,and plus many people get Acne for d-bol.

[GYMBRAT]

this ^^ .....I'm runnin 100mgs prop eod along with my test e/eq through out this 20+ wk cycle, sure is keeping the libido up to par!!

[Repmeister]

Thanks alot guys. I really appreciate the input.
Happy new year to you all.

[Repmeister]

I have just read up on the Anavar and it sounds good. I am seriously thinking about trying it. I like the mildness and the fat burning characteristics. So, with this in mind, where would this be introduced into the cycle - beginning or end and for how long? I am planning a blast-cruise-blast that will run about 36 weeks in total. Obviously I can't use it throughout but I would like to use it in each of the blasts along with test E, test P and Tren E. The test P will only be used for the first two weeks of the first blast as a kick start.

[theboss]

wade nailed it............kudos

[Solo59]

I generally run the prop for 3 weeks, rather than two, while simultaneously running the enanthate. End of week 3 is often ... interesting.

Solo

[St]

I have just read up on the Anavar and it sounds good. I am seriously thinking about trying it. I like the mildness and the fat burning characteristics. So, with this in mind, where would this be introduced into the cycle - beginning or end and for how long? I am planning a blast-cruise-blast that will run about 36 weeks in total. Obviously I can't use it throughout but I would like to use it in each of the blasts along with test E, test P and Tren E. The test P will only be used for the first two weeks of the first blast as a kick start.

You can run var the last 8-12 week of your cycle.

[Repmeister]

"End of week 3 is often ... interesting."

Care to elaborate Solo?