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dremen
29-12-2009, 10:46 AM
So just to be safe while running test/deca/dbol i've got dostinex on the way for the deca, but just wondering what would be best to use to prevent estrogen related gyno? Im not going to use nolva as i don't like the fact it can make gyno worse is some cases, but i still want something on hand.

So it's aromasin, adex or clomid right, im thinking aromasin would be the best choice.

Would like some opinions here please.

Thank you cbb:)

L3
29-12-2009, 11:07 AM
aromasin

St
29-12-2009, 11:16 AM
Aromasin is great stuff.

Praetorian
29-12-2009, 11:16 AM
I would suggest aromasin and only use if necessary. If estrogen is controlled there is usually no issues with prolactin...I would avoid the dostinex unless you see sides...i doubt you will.
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gicantor
29-12-2009, 11:18 AM
Aromasin.

nitrous
29-12-2009, 12:06 PM
I would suggest aromasin and only use if necessary. If estrogen is controlled there is usually no issues with prolactin...I would avoid the dostinex unless you see sides...i doubt you will.
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does aromasin have any effect on prolactin though? just curious about this.. also why would there be a negative effect from dostinex?

manfreakca
29-12-2009, 12:08 PM
need estrogen to grow prolactin dnt know

Praetorian
29-12-2009, 12:48 PM
does aromasin have any effect on prolactin though? just curious about this.. also why would there be a negative effect from dostinex?

Most prolactin issues are seen when in an environment high in estrogen. If estrogen is controlled then prolactin is not usually a problem. Unless you are seeing sides it is unnecessary to take an AI as well as dostinex...they will reduce your gains. Having them on hand is prudent but watch for sides closely and use only if necessary.
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vakker
29-12-2009, 01:04 PM
So just to be safe while running test/deca/dbol i've got dostinex on the way for the deca, but just wondering what would be best to use to prevent estrogen related gyno? Im not going to use nolva as i don't like the fact it can make gyno worse is some cases, but i still want something on hand.

So it's aromasin, adex or clomid right, im thinking aromasin would be the best choice.

Would like some opinions here please.

Thank you cbb:)


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http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40

nitrous
29-12-2009, 01:21 PM
Most prolactin issues are seen when in an environment high in estrogen. If estrogen is controlled then prolactin is not usually a problem. Unless you are seeing sides it is unnecessary to take an AI as well as dostinex...they will reduce your gains. Having them on hand is prudent but watch for sides closely and use only if necessary.
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i was thinking of something like tren.. it does not aromatize to estrogen but it does increase prolactin. most likely you would be doing some test with it which would aromatize to estrogen but assuming it is only a moderate dosage it would be very easy to control the estrogen but you would still have a large amount of prolactin in your system (dosage dependent of course).

so controlling that small amount of estrogen would have a great effect on the prolactin?

on the topic of prolactin ever heard much about Vitex?

dremen
29-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Hmmm well im going to get aromasin and dostinex just in case.

Im very happy with the anti-e properties masteron has. Masteron is some wonderful shit i gotta say. Not only do my muscles feel hard 24/7, but my puffy nips are gone for the most part. Im thinking as soon as i drop the masteron totaly my puff problem might come back so we will see i guess.

So i will be taking aromasin with this cycle at a low dose and if i notice any breast tissue growing i will hit it with the dostinex as well.

Hmmmm now im wondering if the masteron i've been on the past 2 months has hindered my gain because it acts like an anti-estrogen and we need estrogen to build muscle right?

Damn, oh well im down 15 pounds from 3 weeks ago and starting to look a LOT leaner and harder. Man i hope the summer rocks for me....lol:lick

St
30-12-2009, 09:47 AM
Hmmm well im going to get aromasin and dostinex just in case.

Im very happy with the anti-e properties masteron has. Masteron is some wonderful shit i gotta say. Not only do my muscles feel hard 24/7, but my puffy nips are gone for the most part. Im thinking as soon as i drop the masteron totaly my puff problem might come back so we will see i guess.

So i will be taking aromasin with this cycle at a low dose and if i notice any breast tissue growing i will hit it with the dostinex as well.

Hmmmm now im wondering if the masteron i've been on the past 2 months has hindered my gain because it acts like an anti-estrogen and we need estrogen to build muscle right?

Damn, oh well im down 15 pounds from 3 weeks ago and starting to look a LOT leaner and harder. Man i hope the summer rocks for me....lol:lick

Masteron is a great Anti-e,i love it as my sex drive is high on it.

Praetorian
30-12-2009, 10:31 AM
i was thinking of something like tren.. it does not aromatize to estrogen but it does increase prolactin. most likely you would be doing some test with it which would aromatize to estrogen but assuming it is only a moderate dosage it would be very easy to control the estrogen but you would still have a large amount of prolactin in your system (dosage dependent of course).

so controlling that small amount of estrogen would have a great effect on the prolactin?

on the topic of prolactin ever heard much about Vitex?

Tren or deca can both increase prolactin..however if estrogen is controlled it is not usually an issue. Prolactin issue are very rare...ive never seen a prolactin issue in any client of mine or myself in the last 10 years. There are those individuals that are very sensitive that may see sides...most others will never see a thing. That is why caber is nice to have on hand but the odds of needing it are very low.

Vitex is a plant found in Asia and in Mediterranean countries. The part used medicinally is the dried fruit. Vitex does not actually contain hormones. It appears to increase progesterone by stimulating the release of luteinizing hormone from the pituitary gland. Vitex is also thought to normalize excessive prolactin levels and promote fertility.
Whether this is accurate or not is the question as supplements are not regulated so any claims made about it are only that...claims.
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dremen
30-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Masteron is a great Anti-e,i love it as my sex drive is high on it.

See im not horny 24/7 like i used to be, but when it comes time for sex i can keep going for hours. Only downside(for me) is it takes FOREVER to cum. Honestly i could be banging the hottest chick around and i would STILL need to think about something kinky while plowing the chick in order to bust a nut.

I have no use for viagra or cialis, but i would love to find something besides hcg to get my balls bigger and loads bigger while on cycle.

Not sure if this happens to anyone else, but my bells get so small they seem to ride higher up then normal? When a chicks on top and im trying to orgasm my ****ing balls are like right beside my dick and there have been a few times the bells get smashed from humping....lol

Please god let me not be the ONLY one this happens to;)

L3
30-12-2009, 10:48 AM
ya when im giving her 133% my boys back the **** up

nitrous
30-12-2009, 11:28 AM
Tren or deca can both increase prolactin..however if estrogen is controlled it is not usually an issue. Prolactin issue are very rare...ive never seen a prolactin issue in any client of mine or myself in the last 10 years. There are those individuals that are very sensitive that may see sides...most others will never see a thing. That is why caber is nice to have on hand but the odds of needing it are very low.

Vitex is a plant found in Asia and in Mediterranean countries. The part used medicinally is the dried fruit. Vitex does not actually contain hormones. It appears to increase progesterone by stimulating the release of luteinizing hormone from the pituitary gland. Vitex is also thought to normalize excessive prolactin levels and promote fertility.
Whether this is accurate or not is the question as supplements are not regulated so any claims made about it are only that...claims.
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gotchya... thanks for the reply bro

nitrous
30-12-2009, 11:30 AM
See im not horny 24/7 like i used to be, but when it comes time for sex i can keep going for hours. Only downside(for me) is it takes FOREVER to cum. Honestly i could be banging the hottest chick around and i would STILL need to think about something kinky while plowing the chick in order to bust a nut.

I have no use for viagra or cialis, but i would love to find something besides hcg to get my balls bigger and loads bigger while on cycle.

Not sure if this happens to anyone else, but my bells get so small they seem to ride higher up then normal? When a chicks on top and im trying to orgasm my ****ing balls are like right beside my dick and there have been a few times the bells get smashed from humping....lol

Please god let me not be the ONLY one this happens to;)

lol you arent on your own.. i can cum when i want to on cycle but when i was doing HCG i had a real hard time cumming.. as for the boys riding up like that yeah i had that too near the end of my 17.5 week cycle.. i was like oh shit that isnt comfortable bitch you are gettin off me and we're switchin positions haha

Chaps
31-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Aromasin for sure, use as needed cabergoline at .5 mg twice weekly would be fine, if your having troubles getting off sounds like cabergoline would be wise. Their is also pramipexole but it's sides aren't worth it imho.