Drinking eggs?

[Neavris]

Hey I was wondering if it was as good to drink egg whites (pasteurized) than to cook and eat them?

[LonelyBedouin]

I drink egg whites its much easier and since there pasteurized its pretty safe without worries, Ive been doing for over a year and nothing wrong with me... yet lol

I just find it much easier to drink them then eat em

[The Brick]

I mix pasteurized egg white with protein powder all the time. No problems.

[rated_rko]

i drink mine all the time...with cottage cheese no worries there

[ta-kid]

I started drinking whole raw eggs after watching Rocky when it came out many years ago.I stopped after a couple months after reading the risks involved.Like drinking snot.:eek::eek:

[CanadianIron]

I would if I could... I have the strongest gag reflex ever.

[Reaver.]

I started drinking whole raw eggs after watching Rocky when it came out many years ago.I stopped after a couple months after reading the risks involved.Like drinking snot.:eek::eek:

That, and your body only absorbs about 50% of the protein when its raw.

[tiramisu]

As above. Cooked egg is more digestible but what the heck if it makes you feel good to drink it the worst that is likely to happen is nasty egg farts.

[nisser]

Reference to raw egg digestion?


Please and thank you.

[tiramisu]

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716

[nisser]

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716

"Five ileostomy patients were studied,..."

Got something else?

[Reaver.]

Any place on the web says the same bro.

Just type into Google: Raw Egg Digestion or something

[Sean Summers]

Just get the pasteurized ones and you will be fine. Add a packet or two of Crystal Lite and you're good to go.
SS

[nisser]

Any place on the web says the same bro.

Just type into Google: Raw Egg Digestion or something

Not really. It's just random blogs and hearsay, stating the 50% figure which comes from that silly paper.

Show me literature on healthy individuals.

I'm at home so the only thing I could find was this excerpt from 1922:


Wolf and Osterberg . . . found in one case with a total intake
of 23 gm. of nitrogen 70 per cent of which was derived from raw egg white,
the loss of nitrogen in the feces was 41 per cent of the intake; but in another
period, with a total intake of 14 gm. and 51 per cent of the nitrogen from
the egg white, the loss was only 15 per cent of the total intake. . . . .


It's actually an erratum to the original paper and this is the following commentary:

"This is not so. In the second experiment alluded to, where 444
gm. of cooked white of egg were consumed at breakfast, the utilization
was 85 per cent, substantially the figure which these authors
found in their own experiment.
This is quite a different experiment from the first, where 1,000
cc. of uncoagulated white of egg were taken at a single meal."

In other words, when an individual ingested A LITER of raw egg whites, 41% of it was found in the poop. The authors go on and say that this would not be so if it was a lesser amount.


I hate when misinformation is spread around namely because it makes me backtrack and waste time on useless shit.

Next time someone posts shit that may have big consequences to someones diet, training or healthy, ****ing make sure you have good stuff to back up the shit with.


P.S. http://www.jbc.org/content/52/1/207.full.pdf

[Praetorian]

Cooked or raw you are still getting the protein in about the same amounts. Salmonella is usually found in the yolk not the whites and if the egg whites are pasteurized then there is no issue. The only other issue would be a biotin deficiency. Egg whites contain a glycoprotein called "avidin" which binds biotin - one of the B vitamins - very effectively. Thus eating plenty of uncooked eggs can lead to a biotin deficiency. The cooking process deactivates the avidin in the egg.
P

[waderow]

Not really. It's just random blogs and hearsay, stating the 50% figure which comes from that silly paper.

Show me literature on healthy individuals.

I'm at home so the only thing I could find was this excerpt from 1922:


Wolf and Osterberg . . . found in one case with a total intake
of 23 gm. of nitrogen 70 per cent of which was derived from raw egg white,
the loss of nitrogen in the feces was 41 per cent of the intake; but in another
period, with a total intake of 14 gm. and 51 per cent of the nitrogen from
the egg white, the loss was only 15 per cent of the total intake. . . . .


It's actually an erratum to the original paper and this is the following commentary:

"This is not so. In the second experiment alluded to, where 444
gm. of cooked white of egg were consumed at breakfast, the utilization
was 85 per cent, substantially the figure which these authors
found in their own experiment.
This is quite a different experiment from the first, where 1,000
cc. of uncoagulated white of egg were taken at a single meal."

In other words, when an individual ingested A LITER of raw egg whites, 41% of it was found in the poop. The authors go on and say that this would not be so if it was a lesser amount.


I hate when misinformation is spread around namely because it makes me backtrack and waste time on useless shit.

Next time someone posts shit that may have big consequences to someones diet, training or healthy, ****ing make sure you have good stuff to back up the shit with.


P.S. http://www.jbc.org/content/52/1/207.full.pdf


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to nisser again

[tiramisu]

http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/277/5/G935


Am J Physiol 1999 Nov;277(5 Pt 1):G935-43 Related Articles, Links


Amount and fate of egg protein escaping assimilation in the small intestine of humans.

Evenepoel P, Claus D, Geypens B, Hiele M, Geboes K, Rutgeerts P, Ghoos Y.

Department of Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology, Gastrointestinal Research Centre, University Hospital Leuven, B-3000 Louvain, Belgium.

Studies attempting to evaluate protein assimilation in humans have hitherto relied on either ileostomy subjects or intubation techniques. The availability of stable isotope-labeled protein allowed us to determine the amount and fate of dietary protein escaping digestion and absorption in the small intestine of healthy volunteers using noninvasive tracer techniques. Ten healthy volunteers were studied once after ingestion of a cooked test meal, consisting of 25 g of (13)C-, (15)N-, and (2)H-labeled egg protein, and once after ingestion of the same but raw meal. Amounts of 5.73% and 35.10% (P < 0.005) of cooked and raw test meal, respectively, escaped digestion and absorption in the small intestine. A significantly higher percentage of the malabsorbed raw egg protein was recovered in urine as fermentation metabolites. These results 1) confirm that substantial amounts of even easily digestible proteins may escape assimilation in healthy volunteers and 2) further support the hypothesis that the metabolic fate of protein in the colon is affected by the amount of protein made available.

[tiramisu]

Cooking works.

[slick rick]

Cooked or raw you are still getting the protein in about the same amounts. Salmonella is usually found in the yolk not the whites and if the egg whites are pasteurized then there is no issue. The only other issue would be a biotin deficiency. Egg whites contain a glycoprotein called "avidin" which binds biotin - one of the B vitamins - very effectively. Thus eating plenty of uncooked eggs can lead to a biotin deficiency. The cooking process deactivates the avidin in the egg.
P

I remember reading that Salmonella was more likely found on the actual shell, not sure if there is any truth to that. I always make sure i wash my hands well after cracking eggs, i have been eating raw eggs almost everyday for a couple years and never had any issues.

[tiramisu]

0 risk of salmonella with the pasteurized egg whites.

[Big D]

i've been drinking 2 x 500ml of egg whites everyday

[slick rick]

0 risk of salmonella with the pasteurized egg whites.

true... i drink the pateurized egg whites post work out or before bed but i like sucking back a few raw eggs in the morning when i am rushed for work. i find drinking too much egg whites makes for nasty SBD's.

[nisser]

http://ajpgi.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/277/5/G935


Am J Physiol 1999 Nov;277(5 Pt 1):G935-43 Related Articles, Links


Amount and fate of egg protein escaping assimilation in the small intestine of humans.

Evenepoel P, Claus D, Geypens B, Hiele M, Geboes K, Rutgeerts P, Ghoos Y.

Department of Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology, Gastrointestinal Research Centre, University Hospital Leuven, B-3000 Louvain, Belgium.

Studies attempting to evaluate protein assimilation in humans have hitherto relied on either ileostomy subjects or intubation techniques. The availability of stable isotope-labeled protein allowed us to determine the amount and fate of dietary protein escaping digestion and absorption in the small intestine of healthy volunteers using noninvasive tracer techniques. Ten healthy volunteers were studied once after ingestion of a cooked test meal, consisting of 25 g of (13)C-, (15)N-, and (2)H-labeled egg protein, and once after ingestion of the same but raw meal. Amounts of 5.73% and 35.10% (P < 0.005) of cooked and raw test meal, respectively, escaped digestion and absorption in the small intestine. A significantly higher percentage of the malabsorbed raw egg protein was recovered in urine as fermentation metabolites. These results 1) confirm that substantial amounts of even easily digestible proteins may escape assimilation in healthy volunteers and 2) further support the hypothesis that the metabolic fate of protein in the colon is affected by the amount of protein made available.

That's a much better study even though the authors do discuss and mention that "Malabsorption might be overestimated in the present study due to tracer recycling". Even then, a 30% difference isn't that big and is probably much smaller if you incorporate the raw eggs with some additional whole food.