Udachu - so what ever happened?

[blimp]

Did they catch up to the scammers? What ever happened to that guy rolling loonies that was pushing it up and down on the forums swearing on his mums grave that it was legit and all? Prick made a lot of us lose a lot of money. He brought that shit to us and is responsible for a lot of us getting scammed.

Anyone have any more info on this?

[guest]

uh oh. someone's in trouble.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Ugh, that word leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[69challenger]

Ugh, that word leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


yup

[BolicPower]

I think i seen posts on MN, where there were people that called it hype and seemed to know how was going to end. Most seemed to be blinded by the pretchers. "It's all good" My one bud used to know that rollindude person (from investing). From what i understand, they were burned to. He wanted to belive in making decent returns now he wished he went with his gut. He said that rollin guy was still promising back some money to him , and after a while realized the guys was, and always be a liar.

[shithead]

Did some people lose BIG on this?

What about Silvergate FOREX?

[69challenger]

yes^^^

[blimp]

Yes.

It was all lumped into one big scam no matter which one you invested in. Even as far as the money transfer thing (the replacement for egold). Some of us had funds in there and were never able to take it out. Excuse after excuse. I believe rolling loonies was in charge of that so it wasn't the udachu scammers stuff. They were all in on it from what it looks like.

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Scammers are the lowest of the low. I hope they get caught and taken care of in a bad way. Sorry to hear about your losses guys and gals.

[BolicPower]

Well, they say he came on the boards fast with lots of posts to build up a front. Then he just went on peoples trust. heard he's moved as he used to live in TO. As he's made another web page, apperantly, just dont invest if seems to good. Thats all i say. I feel sadly for the people that did loss there money, and never willl get back. A buddy of mine in TO meet him and says he seems like a lazy sob, that just wants others cash,. and then make BS emails to keep em happy. Said his ol lady is a boat. There still trying to find where he moved to.

[blimp]

Does anyone know this guys details? Name, old phone number, wifes name, old address, place of work, whatever?? From there it shouldn't be too hard to find him in Canada. Maybe he'll get lucky and get picked up by law enforcement first.

Post up if anyone knows anything and we can all start looking for him. What's the new website he put up?

[blimp]

By the way, it was all planned out from the beginning to scam everyone. We didn't see it then, but now when you take a good look at the name udachu, it really means something. They are laughing all the way to the bank.

U-DA-CHUMP

[shithead]

Well, they say he came on the boards fast with lots of posts to build up a front. Then he just went on peoples trust. heard he's moved as he used to live in TO. As he's made another web page, apperantly, just dont invest if seems to good. Thats all i say. I feel sadly for the people that did loss there money, and never willl get back. A buddy of mine in TO meet him and says he seems like a lazy sob, that just wants others cash,. and then make BS emails to keep em happy. Said his ol lady is a boat. There still trying to find where he moved to.

If his old lady is a boat then he prolly just jumped aboard and sailed abroad.

[bigben]

A Ponzi scheme usually offers abnormally high short-term returns in order to entice new investors. The high returns that a Ponzi scheme advertises (and pays) require an ever-increasing flow of money from investors in order to keep the scheme going.

The system is doomed to collapse because there are little or no underlying earnings from the money received by the promoter. However, the scheme is often interrupted by legal authorities before it collapses, because a Ponzi scheme is suspected and/or because the promoter is selling unregistered securities. As more investors become involved, the likelihood of the scheme coming to the attention of authorities increases.

The scheme is named after Charles Ponzi, who became notorious for using the technique after emigrating from Italy to the United States in 1903. Ponzi was not the first to invent such a scheme, but his operation took in so much money that it was the first to become known throughout the United States. Today's schemes are often considerably more sophisticated than Ponzi's, although the underlying formula is quite similar and the principle behind every Ponzi scheme is to exploit lapses in judgment arising from investor naïveté.

So in other words, there's nothing to suggest the people who were getting paid profits were either lying or in on the scam. They were simply being paid profits by virtue of the later investors. Was I tempted? Yes, but fortunately I resisted.

[physique]

there are a few guys on this board that i bet know all his details.

maybe one of them will pipe up.

[shithead]

I think I can remember ppl getting paid.

[physique]

some did see money. dr. m from Mn and a few others. but they got out before the big change over. i think a few others got out too when it was all going down and actually saw money. the rest like me are S.O.L

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Count me in. Was a huge setback for me :(

[69challenger]

Count me in. Was a huge setback for me :(

ditto

[D-S]

Way back I told a few people I wouldn't trust money with a cokehead...before he came up with this investment I used to email back and forth with him(canadian thumper) and he'd always be tryin to get me to split his coke shipments from Dr. Juice whos servin some serious time right now down south....I wanted nothin to do with that shit...but when I found out rollinloonies was candian thumper, I told some people and they flipped out and called me a liar sayin hes a great guy, trust him etc...oh well I didn't invest!

[shithead]

How did you meet him? on the forums?

[Canadian Bodybuilding]

Sorry to hear about all this shit. If someone does have this guys details, they should post it anywhere and everywhere to stop him from doing it again. They have a tendency to repeat the scamming if they don't get caught.

[BolicPower]

They have a tendency to repeat the scamming if they don't get caught. Now this is very true, now threw some Pm's, i'm told he moved to London area, and already making a web site, and i'm sure to rip people off in end. I heard it was two people here pushing but the one jackass, as always saying to everyone it's all good and he'll back. lol. and diversify. Losser probably still thinks he'll be rich in year...lol but bascily sit at home look at what people write, and just lay low as seems to be his rep. Coward ,thief and looking to rip off more.. my buddy is trying to find out name of his page. But lol heard he has to live with mommy. One dude online said he was to have good money last year, and still trying to get outta debt. All cause rollin didnt , honour anything he said, the more i find out bout ths guy i hate him.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

U-DA-CHUMP

Ya, feels like it too.

[blimp]

Ya but rollingloonies/thumper gave us his word it was legit. He was the factor most of us invested as he was referred to as a trusted guy. This is why a lot of us hold him personally responsible. If he didn't bring it to us and push so hard to invest, we probably wouldn't have. I know it's my fault I did but it goes to show you what happens when you put trust in someone. He got us all screwed. And not for a little either. I hope karma does exist, but if ever someone finds this guy, I'm all in to report him to authorities. They don't take this thing lightly anymore. What's the most recent sentence for fraud crimes?? 28 years it was I believe?

[BolicPower]

Ya but rollingloonies/thumper gave us his word it was legit. He got us all screwed. And not for a little either. I hope karma does exist, but if ever someone finds this guy, I'm all in to report him to authorities. They don't take this thing lightly anymore. What's the most recent sentence for fraud crimes?? 28 years it was I believe?
I don't know if you can get someone like him (with law), but i didn't like to hear of members loseing hard earned cash.

[BolicPower]

Well, as i can see from some people , NO ONE has filled any claim to Rod! wtf. IF your out, then you shouldnt be bitching but sueing. From info from his bitch:
Skip and Mary (rods parents who were involved in some of Rods scams): 11790 Royal Tee Court, Cape Coral Florida 33991 (239) 283-7575 (best place to start looking)
> Spiller's Irrigation, 109 Hancock Bridge Parkway West, Cape Coral, FL (239) 246-2212
> Christine Mamone (Spiller): Rods current wife and son Caullin (currently living in North Carolina)
> Andrew Spiller; (Rods oldest son who was involved with all of Rods stuff) Cape Coral, FL
> Irene Kaplan (rods former wife/girlfriend who started the scams with Rod as she is on the paperwork) 124 Chatham Place, Lansdale PA 19446
> Tracylyn F. Spiller (rods former wife who he owes child support to) wanted in South Carolina
> Thomas Brockman: Boquete Panama lives in Valle Escondido (admin of Udachu Fund and laundered the money to Rods personal account)
> Old addresses of Rod Spiller that we were able to track down:
> 325 S main Ave Erwin Tn 37650
> 200 Four Seasons Cir Apt A3 Erwin Tn 37650
> 812 Buffalo Rd. Blountville Tn 37617
> 605 Saude Ave Essington Pa 19029
> 118 Saude Ave, Essington PA 19029, tel. (484) 494-4027
> 552 Jansen Ave, Essington PA 19029, tel. (484) 494-4546
> Note: Origins in South Philadelphia: All three of these addresses are located within a few mile radius just west of the airport, south of the highway, and north of the river. Rodney M. Spiller was living in this area until just a few years ago. This is the area where Rodney was living while working as a flight attendant, where he was dating Irene Kaplan, and where he got connected with Thomas Brockman.
> 702 Farview Ave Newtown Square Pa 19073 (Note: This is the address where Rodney M. Spiller was living while working as a flight attendant in the 2004 timeframe.)
> 303 E Oak Ave Knoxville Tn 37917
> 1801 Brantley Rd Apt 1504 Fort Myers Fl. 33907
> 1125 Lenox Ct. Cape Coral Fl. 33904
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has anyone that has lost REALLy tryed to find Rod? he better have cash if i find over the cryers, so my buds taken care of.

[leeroy]

Anyone have any personal info on the rollingloonies guy? He was in canada is much easier to get at than rod.

[wan2lrn]

Did anyone else receive an email from Tom Brockman regarding a 14.51% refund of total deposits into the udachufund.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Yes, here it is in full.

Dear Udachufund Members, I know this may come as a surprise to many of you after not receiving any news from the Udachufund Administration for such a long time, but Ihave taken it upon myself to produce a small refund for all of you. I was able to sell a piece of property located in Panama in which theUdachufund had purchased some time ago. It has taken me a long time to get the title of this property, put it in my name, and secure a buyer for it.By the end of this month, I expect to have the sum of $220,000.00 (after all expenses, taxes, fee's etc. are paid) to refund to the almost 500members of the fund. The refund amount will work out to be 14.51% of your deposits minus your withdraws. I know this is not a lot, but it is certainlybetter than nothing as many of you have probably already written off any chance of getting any of your money back for the Udachufund, RodSpiller, or any of the other funds that were under the "Udachu" umbrella. I want to make it clear that I have nothing to do with the Udachuinvest, Silvergate, PDP, etc.. I was the administrator of the Udachufund only, and Ifeel that it is my duty to refund people if it is within my power. This money will be used to refund only Udachufund members. Please do not emailme and ask for information from any other fund because I do not have any. I am not now, nor have I been in contact with Rod Spiller and companyfor a long long time. I need all of you that would like to participate in this refund process to send me the foillowing information. Udachufund Customer ID:Your Full Name or company name: (in which a check can be written out to)Your mailing address:Your phone number: (needed by my bank in the US) In order to save time and postage, I will wire the funds to my US bank account and everyone will receive a check from my personal WachoviaBank N.A. account. I am doing this because the postage alone would cost thousands of dollars if mailed from Panama and if I use my personalaccount in the states, it will be free. I do not want to use E-gold or any other Online payment method as I am afraid of having my account hackedwhich has happened in the past. For those of you not residing in the US, please give me your address and phone number anyway and I will check on international mail deliveryfrom the US or make other arrangements. I WILL NOT SEND BANK WIRES TO PEOPLE IN THE US. I will have to manually create an account for each one of you, but I cannot do that without your addresses. Rest assured that I still have a copy ofthe Udachufund database which is balanced to the penny so I know exactly how much to send to everyone. I hope to have everyone put into the system by the end of September and then checks will go out within 7 days. Example for payout. If you invested 10,000.00 and never requested a withdraw, you will receive a check in the amount of $1,451.00. If youinvested $100.00 and never requested a withdraw, you will receive $14.51. If you invested $10,000.00 and withdrew $5,000.00, you will receive acheck for $725.50. For those who took monthly withdraws of your interest, good for you, but I have nothing for you. Please do me a favor and place "UF - and your Customer ID" in the subject portion of the email. This will make it much easier to find you in the500 emails I expect to receive. For example, if your Udachufund Customer ID is 1201, please put UF-1201 in the subject portion of the email. The ONLY email account that can be used to send this information to is ufrefund@yahoo.com. Please do not mail the information to my personaladdress or the address where this email was mailed from. One last request. Please place the information at the top of the email. If you want to ad comments, that is fine, but I do not want to have to scrollthrough a large email to obtain your information.

Regards, Tom BrockmanBoquete, Panama

[MuSuLPhReAk]

BTW, it may be in your spam folder.

[ZeOne]

"Please do not mail the information to my personaladdress or the address where this email was mailed from"

Did anyone verify the source of this e-mail? email addresses can be easily spoofed.

Try replying to same email address, or write to the author himself asking for the legitimacy of the email.

You know what the proverb says: "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

[wan2lrn]

I believe Tom Brockman is a "stand up" guy as I received a cheque for just under 1k. My brother, mother and mother-in-law also received cheques for much smaller amounts as they were not as stupid as I was when initially depositing into this scam.

Has anyone else received a cheque?

[St]

I believe Tom Brockman is a "stand up" guy as I received a cheque for just under 1k. My brother, mother and mother-in-law also received cheques for much smaller amounts as they were not as stupid as I was when initially depositing into this scam.

Has anyone else received a cheque?

Wonder how many people from Nexus can post on here that they got some coin.

[ZeOne]

I believe Tom Brockman is a "stand up" guy as I received a cheque for just under 1k. My brother, mother and mother-in-law also received cheques for much smaller amounts as they were not as stupid as I was when initially depositing into this scam.

Has anyone else received a cheque?

Hey guys,

Did anyone else ended up receiving a cheque?

I still have that uneasy feeling that something is not kosher when I read that email MP pasted.



-Z-

[physique]

there are a few guys at Mn that did receive checks from Tom, including the above CBB member who is really from nexus. wan2lrn

[ZeOne]

there are a few guys at Mn that did receive checks from Tom, including the above CBB member who is really from nexus. wan2lrn

Nice! I thought nothing good would come of that email. Glad to see that the good folks of MN did get some of their money back.

The only question remaining since they basically received a piece of paper, is are these cheques backed with provisions, or are they rubber cheques :D

[wan2lrn]

The money was only in my account for 2 weeks. Supposedly our Canadian banks require that cheques from Panama must be certified. I emailed Brockman and he said that he will issue another cheque but from an American bank. Am I naive? 69challenger tells me this every day. But who listens to their spouse/significant other anyway. A thousand bucks is a good chunk for me these days (2 small cycles) so I have to believe that Brockman is a good man and that he will make it happen. I'll let you guys know.

[ZeOne]

The money was only in my account for 2 weeks. Supposedly our Canadian banks require that cheques from Panama must be certified. I emailed Brockman and he said that he will issue another cheque but from an American bank. Am I naive? 69challenger tells me this every day. But who listens to their spouse/significant other anyway. A thousand bucks is a good chunk for me these days (2 small cycles) so I have to believe that Brockman is a good man and that he will make it happen. I'll let you guys know.

wan2lrn, so you're the lucky bastard who is happily married to 69C :D

I don't think your being naive. It is never easy to lose any sum of money, and as humans we always tend to hope for the best in the worst of situations.

But the guys behind this operation, they don't think like you and me, they are crooks with little or no remorse that they might well have ruined the lives of many good people. And these guys will be very good at keeping people at bay, giving them false promises, "your cheque is in the mail" type of replies, and seasons passes, and nothing ever comes.

I had to deal with such persons in the past, although not in the same context, and trust me, these guys are not thinking of anyone but themselves. I was owed money, and I would always hear the same thing. I did get 2 rubber cheques which bounced soon after and worst, cost me money in bank fees! and this person was my boss!

So I say, don't expect anything out of this whole ordeal, and don't stress yourself anymore. I am pretty sure that the lesson was learned for everyone involved in this scam. If you do get a check, deposit knowing very well that it might bounce, and if it does don't lose sleep over it.

[69challenger]

So I say, don't expect anything out of this whole ordeal, and don't stress yourself anymore. I am pretty sure that the lesson was learned for everyone involved in this scam. If you do get a check, deposit knowing very well that it might bounce, and if it does don't lose sleep over it.

Agreed

[BryanWilliams]

i know several americans whos cheques went through no problem (10's of k worth altogether)