Precontest Planning

[bigtavi8]

Well got my second contest coming up in about 3 months and have been doing a lot of research on an effective precontest cycle. I have done 2 previous cycles that have included test e, dbol, var, winny, ECA(of course). Stats before starting the precontest run...5'11' 219.5lb 10,11% BF. Last contest my weight was at 180 on stage (carb and water depleted). I read P threads on precontest cycles and they are very good. Does anybody have any ideas on a precontest cycle. The only substance im not comfortable with is tren mainly. I want to keep something in the reserve for next show so... Im comfortable with ED or EOD injections, do solid pcts, and am working with my coach for my diet.

Thinking something like Test Prop, EQ from 6 weeks out to the show.
4 weeks out Var, winny
3 weeks out Clen, or ECA (eca doesnt do shit for me but)

Anybody have any cycles precontest that are effective or any links to precontest cycles they can share?

Aldactone for diuretic due to potasium sparing and its advantages over lasix.

[ironwill]

Aldactone sucked as a diuretic for me...To unpredictible as it is an aldersterone in hibitor, which messes with your bodies salt storing abilities, and i believe it does something to your androgens....As it can be prescribed for acne etc.....

I would run the test right through the contest, at maybe 200 mg eod..
var at 8 weeks out, and winnie the last 4 weeks......
var at 30 mgs/day, and winnie at 25-50 mgs/day.....
I maybe would add 100 mg eod of masteron the last 6 weeks as well, when you are nice and lean...
adex, at 1 mg eod, or aromasin at 12.5 mg /day for the last 8 weeks, maybe 12 weeks....

I cant do tren, so these are the weapons i would choose....
Id do the clen, but why eca if it does nothing for you....If it is for energy, just do 200 mgs of caffeine prior to workout, and upon rising.....

[Big D]

^^ very good advice

[troy_trinity]

the more mast the grainer you look. Therefor I would bump it up to 100mg's ed.

you really need to re-think the tren. There is a reason everyone uses it pre-contest :)

var for 8 weeks as IW stated- but no winny (let the diuretic look after the water). Forget winny and run halo 20-30mg's ed for the last 3 weeks up till contest.

start the clen at week 8 and run it up until contest date.

as far as test you have 2 options. drop the test 4 weeks out (or) run the test up until the last week and use letro starting 3 weeks out- increase by 1.25mg's for 10 days, 2.5mg's for 14 days.

Not sure how people on this forum feel about pgcl for a diuretic but that shit does empty you out- you have to play around with it to find out when you peak though.

EQ 6 weeks out won't do crap all so forget that.

If you give us an idea of what substances you have run and at what doeseages and how you handled them we can help you out a hell of a lot more with exact compounds and doseages.

P.S.- are you only running the pre-contest cycle for 6 weeks?

[bigtavi8]

Thank you all for your input. Greatly appreciated. IW u make a hell of a lot of sense. I dont know what i was thinking with the EQ the cycle is not nearly long enough. The reason i chose to do maybe only a 6 weeker is i need time to recover from my go right now and want to do the old time on=time off so i recover fully. The adex will be EOD at 1mg to keep water weight at bay. ECA is out of the question and clen is in. I hear your advice on tren and halo but to be honest im not advanced enough to properly benifit from those compounds. I want something simple and effective. I react very well and make good gains no matter what i take. As for the question about dosages ive used in the past. I have done a 15weeker of Test E (500mg EW), with dbol synergy (40mg ED 4 weeks), also have used up to 60mg var ED and 75 winny. None of the compounds seem to be a problem besides the fact that i cant go over 500 of test or the acne is unbearable on my delts. Going to do some serious research on Masteon because i would like that grainy look. Thanks again brothas. :tu

[Praetorian]

A few tips:

Fat burners such as clen, T3 if used should be started day one...not a few weeks out...thats too little too late. You also ramp up very slowly ie every two weeks increased slightly.
Never use Aldactone as a diuretic....ever. Your diuretic of choice should be Dyazide.
Avoid ECA...it is not as effective as clen and will compete for the same receptors thus slowing fat loss.
You are better off with long ester test such as enanthate with an AI....prop may cause less water retention but with an AI it is obselete.
Var may help slightly with strength the last few weeks but winstrol/masteron will have a much more pronounced cosmetic effect...judges care about what you look like....not how strong you are in the gym. winny can be started 6 weeks out without issues...50mg EOD and increased to 50mg ED at 4 weeks out.
An AI should be utilized from day one...reducing estrogen not only controls water retention it also helps with fat oxidation. Aromasin at 12.5mg ED 1-12 and 25mg ED 13-16.
For more advanced BB's tren started 8 weeks out and halo the last 3 weeks.
Also....you never drop things like clen, T3, test etc until after the show or you are asking for trouble.
P