View Full Version : Just watch the starting strength vids
JacktheThriller
17-12-2009, 12:02 AM
These are a wealth of information of form on major lifts. My form is terrible in comparison. Over the years ive been slowly getting away from proper form. This was a wake up call and i cant wait to get to my next workout to see how much easier things get in my compounds.
Request
17-12-2009, 11:11 PM
I have never actually purchased the DVD, although I'm thinking about it. Ive always been a visual learner rather than a reading learner so I think that they would be a great help for me.
Also I did find this on youtube and found it quite interesting on Hip Drive during the Squat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yha2XAc2qu8&feature=related
JacktheThriller
17-12-2009, 11:44 PM
you should pick it up legally or otherwise, especially if u are starting out
form is the key to staying injury free and maximizing your strength
the videos are escentially him training 6 people from all walks of life how to squat, press, deadlift, bench, and clean
after watching it a few times you should be able to teach a vet something about these compouds
Request
21-12-2009, 08:50 PM
you should pick it up legally or otherwise,
I will be purchasing this video come the new year. A bit straped for cash right now as it is the holiday season.
I have a feeling with me being new with all these compound movements it will be greatly beneficial to me. :beer
JacktheThriller
21-12-2009, 08:53 PM
def great investment for any level
Shortdave
21-12-2009, 09:38 PM
I have never actually purchased the DVD, although I'm thinking about it. Ive always been a visual learner rather than a reading learner so I think that they would be a great help for me.
Also I did find this on youtube and found it quite interesting on Hip Drive during the Squat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yha2XAc2qu8&feature=related
That video is why I don't like Rippetoe. The guy never fully completes the squat and if he was using any amount of weight he would have ended up doing a good morning to finish the lift, and looking down is just a bad idea it makes it so much harder to stay tight.
ta-kid
21-12-2009, 09:53 PM
Yes you should drive with your hips,but being a tall bodybuilder ,6 foot 3,if I left my back that far over that late into the lift I would end up with a lower back injury real quick.I think a more shorter lifter would benifit more using this technic but I guess that could be argued also.
Shortdave
21-12-2009, 10:10 PM
I am a short lifter and I squat with my head looking straight ahead or SLIGHTLY up and my head pushed back into the bar. I do drive with my hips, but I am driving them up and forward not just up.
O-Train
21-12-2009, 10:14 PM
That video is why I don't like Rippetoe. The guy never fully completes the squat and if he was using any amount of weight he would have ended up doing a good morning to finish the lift, and looking down is just a bad idea it makes it so much harder to stay tight.
I think I know what Ripptoe is trying to get at but I know what you mean too. If a guy just focuses on hip drive and forgets what his upper body is doing he better be able to do a good morning w/ as much weight as he can squat.
Maybe it's just me but I think you can drive with your hips while also straightening your upper body at the same time.
The other thing he says is that the hamstring is being shortened but tension is decreased (@ 1:56)? Then he starts talking about hip end and knee end...anyone care to explain. To me it makes no sense, maybe he made a mistake. Or he just doesn't know what he's talking about because he didn't explain it well at all.
tiramisu
21-12-2009, 10:19 PM
I'm pretty comfortable with Rippetoes cues. The book is better than the DVD as it explains why and how cuing and form should work and the example vids can be found on youtube. There are different cues that can be used to teach the low back squat his method works if you don't already know someone elses.
Request
22-12-2009, 10:11 AM
Yeah the DVD is definately a companion to the book as it would explain alot of these questions, that I cannot.
I still find the book and vids a great tool for learning good technique... sure it may be embelished (sp?) a bit on the hip drive vid etc, but following his guidance is alot better than stumbling around in the dark not knowing good technique for compound movements if it flew up and hit ya right in the face.
evser
25-12-2009, 03:15 AM
I also found it odd that he was saying to look at the floor, drive only with the hips etc. It really does seem like heavier weight will lead to an injury inducing good morning;
I also just saw the guy from westside barbell louie simmons in a vid and the way he explains the squat as well as the technique used are really different from this vid. Actually it's in a thread on the same page as this one lol just noticed.
Request
25-12-2009, 01:55 PM
I also found it odd that he was saying to look at the floor, drive only with the hips etc. It really does seem like heavier weight will lead to an injury inducing good morning;
I also just saw the guy from westside barbell louie simmons in a vid and the way he explains the squat as well as the technique used are really different from this vid. Actually it's in a thread on the same page as this one lol just noticed.
Your not talking about the wide squat vid are you?
evser
26-12-2009, 01:29 AM
Yeah that video. I know he was talking about wide squats but he was saying it was better than regular squats because strength gained there carries over. I know they may not be the same type of squat in both vids.
I just really don't get why he says to look at the ground?
It's not like he wants you to look at the floor between your feet. He wants you to keep a neutral neck/spine alignment by looking at the floor in front of you.
JacktheThriller
28-12-2009, 11:41 PM
^^
yep
buildinthaskinnys
29-12-2009, 02:16 AM
I'm starting to dislike this rippetoe figure. I watched some of his "theory" videos and I was left as confused as hell. I would be curious as to what bobbyorr has to say about form like that. I think its rubbish and an injury in waiting.
"The spine is best at bearing a load in an arch".
Thats an interesting quote, now, I wonder if he could convince a guy with 1000 lb on his back to arch like that at parallel?
this may work for crossfit ppl but if you squat like this with any amount of weight you will get hurt. it sounds like he is making this shit up as he goes along........this kids knees are tracking over his toes by a foot....this video demonstrates how Not to squat.....
Request
30-12-2009, 09:31 PM
Found this vid of Mark... looks like he is doing alright...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKEl4Wxoqc
315x10 Squat
For a guy over 50, thats alright in my book.
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