20 week test cycle debating going 25

[Lotto]

Hey guys I've just came to the end of 20 weeks on test e and have made some nice gains and am still gaining. I have 10ml of test c left and I'm debating just going the other 5 weeks. If not I start clomid on the 26th of dec.

Does anyone think I should just cruise into pct or would another 5 really matter.

Thanks in advance .

[waderow]

what was your dose and what age and how many cycles and HCG?

[Lotto]

500mg a week. 24 yrs old...first cycle.

A couple of my friends including my source says hcg isn't necessary...do u suggest it ?

[theboss]

what made you do 20 weeks for a 1st cycle ????????

i believe you need a new source....i would be taking hcg being on that long...and coming off nolva & clomid even though its only test.

what are you doing for PCT ???

[Delt King]

That long without Hcg run throughout was not a great idea...the longer the shutdown the harder it is to restart. Gotta do research before jumping into things.

[waderow]

being your first cycle and your young age, I would probably come off and do your pct. Try the clomid only pct out and see how you do but int he future, I suggest for PCT commencing immediately after final shot:

HCG 2500iu eod for eight doses (16days)
clomid 50mg twice daily (100mg ed) for 30 days
nolva 20mg ed for 45 days.

This is an expensive protocol, but will return you to normal.... Medically proven too

[Lotto]

Ok so I'm not going 25 lol. I have clomid already and nolva available if need it . Would it be pointless to get hcg now ?

[waderow]

you might be fine without the HCG.... You weren't running a really surpressive cycle so go with what you have.

[Lotto]

Its weird to my balls didn't really shrink. I was expecting them to but they didn't.

Do u suggest anything for libido. Because I'm with a hot broad right now and I want to keep her lol.

[Delt King]

you might be fine without the HCG.... You weren't running a really surpressive cycle so go with what you have.

You really think that 5mths on test isn't that suppressive? come on now. He's been totally shut down for at least 4mths straight. Good luck without hcg. It may or may not work.

[waderow]

Its weird to my balls didn't really shrink. I was expecting them to but they didn't.

Do u suggest anything for libido. Because I'm with a hot broad right now and I want to keep her lol.

during pct you might have some issues, but that comes with the turf. Get some tadafil citrate and keep it handy incase you cant get wood. Its a good fail safe

[waderow]

You really think that 5mths on test isn't that suppressive? come on now. He's been totally shut down for at least 4mths straight. Good luck without hcg. It may or may not work.

yes, I do, especially compared to some tren, deca, and multi-gram cycles out there. Being his first cycle, he will likely recover well, but who knows. Its up to him to find out. Many bodybuilders over the years recovered quite well with nolva only pct, clomid only pct, and many more without pct. I dont know how old you are, but pct was rare 15 years even

[Delt King]

yes, I do, especially compared to some tren, deca, and multi-gram cycles out there. Being his first cycle, he will likely recover well, but who knows. Its up to him to find out. Many bodybuilders over the years recovered quite well with nolva only pct, clomid only pct, and many more without pct. I dont know how old you are, but pct was rare 15 years even

Agreed there are more suppressive cycles and pct is relatively new to the gear game but the point is DO IT RIGHT if the information is available. I've got a half dozen friends who need HRT now because no matter what the endocronologist tried nothing worked to get them back to normal. When i started 15 years ago, there wasn't even an internet back then, our info was an underground handbook full of mistakes. You gotta be informed now and do all the prerequisite research do to things responsibly is all i'm saying to him.

[waderow]

Agreed there are more suppressive cycles and pct is relatively new to the gear game but the point is DO IT RIGHT if the information is available. I've got a half dozen friends who need HRT now because no matter what the endocronologist tried nothing worked to get them back to normal. When i started 15 years ago, there wasn't even an internet back then, our info was an underground handbook full of mistakes. You gotta be informed now and do all the prerequisite research do to things responsibly is all i'm saying to him.

he doesnt have hcg.... so he is going to have to make the best with what he has. I too would recommend it, but in this case he is just going to have to do clomid @100ed for a week then 50mg ed therafter

[daande]

This might help with libido...take alot of tribulus.

[troy_trinity]

interested as to why anyone hasn't suggested some aromasin and some igf?

something like:

1-6 50mg clomid/day
1-4 25mg's aromasin/day
5-6 12.5mg's aromasin/day
1-4 30-50mcg's igf pwo

igf get's your nut's swinging.

tomorifene citrate as well if one could afford it

I also think hcg would be a good idea...

[waderow]

interested as to why anyone hasn't suggested some aromasin and some igf?

something like:

1-6 50mg clomid/day
1-4 25mg's aromasin/day
5-6 12.5mg's aromasin/day
1-4 30-50mcg's igf pwo

igf get's your nut's swinging.

tomorifene citrate as well if one could afford it

I also think hcg would be a good idea...

all he has is clomid

[troy_trinity]

all he has is clomid

that's going to be one hell of a shitty pct for OP then :(

[waderow]

that's going to be one hell of a shitty pct for OP then :(

how so

[troy_trinity]

how so

20 weeks first cycle... so he doesn't know how his body recovers...

Going to be shutdown no matter how you look at it- and no hcg during 20 weeks of being on is deffinately not a good thing...

clomid is not the gold standard anymore for pct either...

clomid only for this pct is like using a band-aid for something that requires stitches

[GYMBRAT]

^ agreed

[waderow]

20 weeks first cycle... so he doesn't know how his body recovers...

Going to be shutdown no matter how you look at it- and no hcg during 20 weeks of being on is deffinately not a good thing...

clomid is not the gold standard anymore for pct either...

clomid only for this pct is like using a band-aid for something that requires stitches

So you never read the thread then?

[MikeyFXD35]

Agreed there are more suppressive cycles and pct is relatively new to the gear game but the point is DO IT RIGHT if the information is available. I've got a half dozen friends who need HRT now because no matter what the endocronologist tried nothing worked to get them back to normal. When i started 15 years ago, there wasn't even an internet back then, our info was an underground handbook full of mistakes. You gotta be informed now and do all the prerequisite research do to things responsibly is all i'm saying to him.

I wouldnt point the finger at cycles for the need for HRT. Never touch AAS when I was younger and I am on HRT. The whole HRT thing is new and more doctors are seeing the benefit so you are seeing more men on it. IMO

[troy_trinity]

So you never read the thread then?

OP was talking about running 25 week cycle instead of 20 week- somewhere he stated it was his first cycle.

everyone said go into pct now

i suggest a pct protocol

you say he only has clomid

i say he's not going to have a fun pct

what did I miss?

Not trying to be a dick here srsly- I'm just saying OP is not going to have fun doing a clomid only pct after 20 weeks of being on- no matter what substances he was on. (even just test)