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daande
16-12-2009, 02:44 AM
Currently on 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ. I had been having trouble sleeping for the past 2-3 weeks. Whenever I would lay down I would have racing thoughts and my mind would race and I would think so much that I could not sleep. Anyways, last night before bed I downed a glass of milk some ZMA and a melatonin and had the best sleep I have had in 3 weeks.
gsxr750
16-12-2009, 02:48 AM
Cool. How's libido been while running the EQ higher than the Test?
i take 1000mg of ZMAX (zma) by sportlab . Alomst every night.
The dreams I get are a bit crazy , but I've always been told that , that is the REM sleep. Always feel refreshed. ALso the added B12 shot helps too.
melatonin or some of bc's finest cash crop will work......dont mix them tho.....crazy ****ing dreams.....
kloan
16-12-2009, 03:41 AM
Gonna try the ZMA. That along with the adrenal support supp I've ordered, I'll cross my fingers I can start to get some uninterrupted sleep. Something I've not had since I was a wee tyke....
theboss
16-12-2009, 08:42 AM
1) rub one out
2) gravol/travel tabs/dimenhydrinate
natenator
16-12-2009, 09:31 AM
gravol for the win.
I have prescription sleeping pills but I on;y take those in extreme cases where I literally have not slept in 4-5 days.
i take 1.5mg of melatonin and get good sleep. gravol make me feel like shit
Delt King
16-12-2009, 10:37 AM
try 50mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride (canadian benadryl) or GABBA and melatonin 6mg works like a charm.
daande
16-12-2009, 02:17 PM
Cool. How's libido been while running the EQ higher than the Test?
Libido is normal as in if I wasnt on cycle. When I did a kickstart with 100mg of test prop EOD for 4 weeks with this juice I literally was jerking off 8 times a day. Now I am probably only killing it once a day which is good for me right now...no gf lol.
daande
16-12-2009, 02:20 PM
Also, I was taking some tylonal cold and sinus nighttimes a few nights but I am trying to keep it natural as far as the sleeping aids go. 3mg of Melatonin + 2 ZMA pills I dont know what the exact dose is and I am falling asleep within 30 minutes whereas before I could lay there forever. One night I laid in my bed trying to sleep from 1am - 730am when I said **** this and took two tylonal cold and sinus nighttimes and I was out within 30 minutes.
trainharder
16-12-2009, 03:49 PM
Currently on 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ. I had been having trouble sleeping for the past 2-3 weeks. Whenever I would lay down I would have racing thoughts and my mind would race and I would think so much that I could not sleep. Anyways, last night before bed I downed a glass of milk some ZMA and a melatonin and had the best sleep I have had in 3 weeks.
Don't drink milk with ZMA.
ZMA should not be taken with calcium (cheese,milk,etc.), the reason being that calcium blocks the absorption of zinc.
turboturist
16-12-2009, 05:29 PM
Zoplicone.
bongd
16-12-2009, 05:33 PM
Zoplicone.
Shieet the 7.5mg make me pretty much black out for the last little while before actually sleeping. Be careful with this shit. It's serious business.
I like Benadryl before bed. Don't take too much though. 25mg for the first couple nights is fine. 50mg after that, but I don't go beyond 75mg. It's anticholinergic which basically means you'll start becoming groggy and stupid after a while. Works in a pinch though.
rickyboy36
16-12-2009, 05:45 PM
try 50mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride (canadian benadryl) or GABBA and melatonin 6mg works like a charm.
Bingo!!!I use 75mgs however(3tabs) and it works everytime.I littlerly get knocked out with this.You can alternate nights using that and melatonin.Another fun part about benadryl(dimenhydrinate) is that if your dieting and using CLEN it will not only help you sleep better it will also regulate the receptors(not sure what those receptors are called.Beta?) that are involved with using Clen and therefore will enable you to use it longer without adapting to it.
turboturist
16-12-2009, 05:54 PM
Shieet the 7.5mg make me pretty much black out for the last little while before actually sleeping. Be careful with this shit. It's serious business.
I like Benadryl before bed. Don't take too much though. 25mg for the first couple nights is fine. 50mg after that, but I don't go beyond 75mg. It's anticholinergic which basically means you'll start becoming groggy and stupid after a while. Works in a pinch though.
I use 1.5 tabs when I am at work. Can't shut my head off without it. Don't need it at home.
bongd
16-12-2009, 06:14 PM
I use 1.5 tabs when I am at work. Can't shut my head off without it. Don't need it at home.
What line of work are you in - sleeping?? lol
I can actually stay awake on that stuff though. Pretty much any sleeping med, if you fight off the nods then you'll be wired afterward. Feels nasty and disturbing though.
I just take half a tab when I can't sleep. If I REALLY need some immediate sleep, I take a whole tab and set at least two alarm clocks. Otherwise, I'll just have a dream about alarm clocks and sleep in an extra hour or two.
monkey
17-12-2009, 03:00 AM
I have some sleeping pills.. ( bought them in south america)
Took them once, slept 16 hours, woke up once after ten to piss, looked around, closed my eyes..
Took another half on my flight back, have weak memories of getting back and passing customs ( even forgot to take those pills out of my bags.. wasn't searched luckily
Have a whole box sitting there, staring at me.. scary stuff
kloan
17-12-2009, 03:46 AM
tried ambien once... didnt work. i dreamt while laying there awake with my eyes closed. it was weird.
clicker666
17-12-2009, 08:41 AM
I'm an early morning waker, opposite of your situation. I wake with racing thoughts anywhere between 3 and 5 am. I use 10 mg of Amitriptyline at bedtime, and sleep well. My doc doesn't mind Rx-ing it either, since it's non-narcotic and has no nasty sides at such a low dose.
Solo59
18-12-2009, 02:37 AM
Zoppies (zopiclone) are habit forming, but can be beat easily enough, if you need to. Might as well take valium since the effect is much the same. But getting hooked on tranx is worse, I think, than mild narcotics. Worse getting off anyway.
Solo
gsxr750
21-12-2009, 12:52 AM
WOW on the ZMA. Picked some up for shits, took 2 pills a few hours before bed.. I had the most insane dreams ever.
Chased by the SWAT team, put Wayne Gretzky in a coma, and lost my virginity all in the same night.
Seriously though, crazy dreams.. I had a full dream that scared the shit out of me and woke me up, felt like I had slept for 8 hours but it was only 30 mins after I went to bed
kloan
21-12-2009, 01:02 AM
What brand ZMA is everyone using?
gsxr750
21-12-2009, 01:03 AM
I go looky, one sec..
mine is by 'Good 'n' Natural
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511MhTB-JhL._SL160_.jpg
CanadianIron
21-12-2009, 02:03 AM
You guys are nuts with all your drugs... how about a hot shower.
kloan
21-12-2009, 02:22 AM
You guys are nuts with all your drugs... how about a hot shower.
if only it were that easy....
btw, ZMA isn't drugs...
CanadianIron
21-12-2009, 02:29 AM
I know, I guess I'm just lucky, I usually dont have a problem sleeping...
beserker
21-12-2009, 06:14 PM
i always just squeeze one off when i cant fall asleep , usually works well
gsxr750
21-12-2009, 07:02 PM
No crazy dreams that I recall from last night on the same ammount of ZMA.. but slept better than usual didn't wake up at all
turboturist
30-12-2009, 01:47 AM
Zoppies (zopiclone) are habit forming, but can be beat easily enough, if you need to.
Solo
Really? Never had an issue, I take them for the 5 weeks I am at work and dont take them for the 5 weeks when I am at home. Have had no issues either way.
kloan
30-12-2009, 02:27 AM
im taking a valium tonight.. i need a decent night's sleep already.
daande
30-12-2009, 02:33 AM
lol.
kloan
30-12-2009, 02:42 AM
No crazy dreams that I recall from last night on the same ammount of ZMA.. but slept better than usual didn't wake up at all
lucky.. didn't work at all for me. actually, worked the first night when i took a few ibuprofen with it, cuz i had a migraine.. but hasn't worked since.
dremen
30-12-2009, 10:52 AM
Currently on 500mg of test and 600mg of EQ. I had been having trouble sleeping for the past 2-3 weeks. Whenever I would lay down I would have racing thoughts and my mind would race and I would think so much that I could not sleep. Anyways, last night before bed I downed a glass of milk some ZMA and a melatonin and had the best sleep I have had in 3 weeks.
Evening cardio then, rub one out, then hot bath, then rub one out, then warm glass of milk with large before bed meal and then sleep soundly;)
ironwill
30-12-2009, 10:54 AM
GABA is working well for me........Melatonin is great at 5mgs plus also.....
dremen
30-12-2009, 11:50 AM
GABA is working well for me........Melatonin is great at 5mgs plus also.....
What is this GABBA you speak of boss?
theboss
30-12-2009, 12:02 PM
What is this GABBA you speak of boss?
google...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Aminobutyric_acid
ironwill
30-12-2009, 01:18 PM
What is this GABBA you speak of boss?
What Is GABA?, In a nutshell......
While neurons produce it naturally, a GABA supplement can help you experience the many benefits of GABA. Without getting too scientific, GABA is an important chemical within the human brain. It is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, and as such it serves the brain by regulating the firing of neurons.
Without gamma-aminobutyric acid, your muscles would be constantly tense, your mind would never stop racing, and your overall ability to function would be severely impaired. Gaba supplements can be taken to increase this valuable resource in your body.
The GABA Supplement Experience
The sensation that gamma-aminobutyric acid gives is unique, and unlike any other commercially available natural supplement or drug. The descriptions vary from individual to individual, but the overall consensus is that there is something very special about natural GABA supplements.
Additional Information
Increase in the level of Human Growth Hormones (HGH)
Induces relaxation and sleep
Reduces muscle tension
Reduces stress, anxiety and depression
Promotes well being
GABA is produced in the human brain and functions as a balancer, maintains balance between the body and the mind in states of excitation. GABA supplement aids several complications including Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD, hypertension or HBP, obesity, insomnia, alcoholism and many more. It is also a great help in treating mental blocks.
GABA supplements are helpful for any active individuals, bodybuilders and athletes. They help in enhancing the body’s muscle mass, which is GABA’s conductive anabolic property and its lipotropic property helps in fat reduction and weight loss programs, simultaneously.
http://www.gabasupplement.com/
dremen
30-12-2009, 01:38 PM
What Is GABA?, In a nutshell......
While neurons produce it naturally, a GABA supplement can help you experience the many benefits of GABA. Without getting too scientific, GABA is an important chemical within the human brain. It is an inhibitory neurotransmitter, and as such it serves the brain by regulating the firing of neurons.
Without gamma-aminobutyric acid, your muscles would be constantly tense, your mind would never stop racing, and your overall ability to function would be severely impaired. Gaba supplements can be taken to increase this valuable resource in your body.
The GABA Supplement Experience
The sensation that gamma-aminobutyric acid gives is unique, and unlike any other commercially available natural supplement or drug. The descriptions vary from individual to individual, but the overall consensus is that there is something very special about natural GABA supplements.
Additional Information
Increase in the level of Human Growth Hormones (HGH)
Induces relaxation and sleep
Reduces muscle tension
Reduces stress, anxiety and depression
Promotes well being
GABA is produced in the human brain and functions as a balancer, maintains balance between the body and the mind in states of excitation. GABA supplement aids several complications including Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD, hypertension or HBP, obesity, insomnia, alcoholism and many more. It is also a great help in treating mental blocks.
GABA supplements are helpful for any active individuals, bodybuilders and athletes. They help in enhancing the body’s muscle mass, which is GABA’s conductive anabolic property and its lipotropic property helps in fat reduction and weight loss programs, simultaneously.
http://www.gabasupplement.com/
Damn thanks for the info IW:)
BTW i got a couple new pics up in picture forum and i would really like to hear what u think. Thanks boss.
Solo59
31-12-2009, 01:39 AM
No crazy dreams that I recall from last night on the same ammount of ZMA.. but slept better than usual didn't wake up at all
You're dreaming your dreams. ZMA should do little or nothing to help sleep, though it may mildly promote muscle strength.
Amazing what the power of belief can do. Should read the amazing studies done on the placebo effect.
Solo
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