Next Cycle

[nitrous]

okay so i've been off for 4 months now and thinkin i'm gonna start up again pretty quickly here.. let me know what you guys think:

1-8 Test Prop 75mg - 100mg ED (525mg - 700mg EW)
1-8 Tren Ace 50mg ED (350mg EW)
4-8 500iu HCG x2 (500iu monday and 500iu thurs. )

9-10 clomid 100mg ED
11-12 clomid 50mg ED


Think i will need aromasin for the pct? Aromasin will be on hand regardless incase needed during the cycle (already have some laying around)..

Think Dostinex will be needed?

any opinion/comments?

my goal is strictly lean mass.. currently at 182.. hope to get to 185 in a few weeks.. start this and get to 200 if it is possible and still have decent ab definition..

25yo
5'5-6

first time using tren...

[gicantor]

I would use the aromaisin in pct. Only use dostenix if needed. Have it on hand.
Looks like fun :)

[nitrous]

I would use the aromaisin in pct. Only use dostenix if needed. Have it on hand.
Looks like fun :)

ya i was thinking about that.. 12.5mg ED... worked well for me last time.. a few other guys i was talkin to said it probabably isnt necessary though so i thought i'd get some opinions

[JonnyO]

Why HCG during cycle? Seems like a waste to me.

[steve_o]

http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/educational-articles.html?id=47

This is an interesting article in regards to HcG usuage on cycle and why it is beneficial. It states that you will have a much easier time taking a smaller dose throughout your cycle then higher doses during the last couple of weeks only. Also it is important to note that at a lower dosage the Hcg will not affect your natural production of LH whereas with higher doses it has been know to decrease your own production.

[nitrous]

Why HCG during cycle? Seems like a waste to me.

the idea i had behind it was to keep my boys going while on.. should help them create a few more hormones during the cycle to make everything a bit more effective and PCT should be easy since the should still have their size when i begin my PCT...

the only shitty thing is with 7 injections already every week i'm adding another 2 lol

[steve_o]

If you are going to be doing 7 what is another 2 lol. Are you planning on doing the Hcg injections intramuscularly or sub? Just make sure you are rotating your spots all of the time so you don't build up any scar tissue and also so the area doesn't feel so sore. IMO I would do the Hcg aswell! Big help with an easier PCT.

[nitrous]

If you are going to be doing 7 what is another 2 lol. Are you planning on doing the Hcg injections intramuscularly or sub? Just make sure you are rotating your spots all of the time so you don't build up any scar tissue and also so the area doesn't feel so sore. IMO I would do the Hcg aswell! Big help with an easier PCT.

i was gonna do the HCG IM but in a different injection than the test and tren cuz i've heard its not good to mix oil and water based together in an injection (yeah i know lots of people do it and dont have issues)..

i'm going to be using side delts, rear delts, glutes, and lats.. and for every injection i'm going to move it around an inch away from the last one..

[yAr]

good article Steve O

[JonnyO]

Yes good article, one thing that I dont understand though "Also, it’s important to discontinue the hCG before you start PCT so your leydig cells are given a chance to re-sensitize to your body’s own LH production. (To help further enhance testicular sensitivity, the dietary supplement Toco-8 may be used)"

If you stop the HCG a few weeks prior to ending the cycle, how will your body re-sensitize to LH if your still on cycle? The HCG mimics LH while on right, or off as well. If your still on cycle using the HCG its just sending artificial signals, so shouldnt you be OFF everything in order for your body to re-sensitize to our own LH? Its doing nothing to restart our pituitary this way.

[kloan]

It's normally a few days before PCT, not a few weeks.