Are you kidding me?

[natenator]

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13179

THIS thread had complaints reported which caused MP to close it? While I agree the HRT is for serious discussion some people felt the need to complain about a thread which was poking fun at some of the jokers here and the cycles they run but serious discussion of these joke cycles is perfectly acceptable?

For those who complain I'd like to know where you are when the threads on people's massive cycle threads are going on?

[Talo]

WOW !

Some people prob thought that he was making fun of what THEY do :D

[ironwill]

Guilty conciences i would say.....lol:greet

[nii]

Im pretty sure it wasnt closed because of the topic, but HOW it was being discussed. If Durk went and made an intelligent post and put some thought into it, it wouldnt have been shut down. The thread was just another waste of epaper =D

Instead of creating another thread about it, why not write an original thought, and pose it for discussion? Not only that, but you can gear other threads into the right discussion, instead of insulting and making jks that only regulars would get.

I mean MP just created a thread labeled 'Amount of steroids you do', which wasnt another typical 'IM ON GRAMS OF STUFF'. He attempted to reach a certain audience with more than just a, 'are you f*&#%ing kidding me?!?!?'.

Just my thoughts.

[AlladdinSane]

Hehehe...

[ironwill]

Im pretty sure it wasnt closed because of the topic, but HOW it was being discussed. If Durk went and made an intelligent post and put some thought into it, it wouldnt have been shut down. The thread was just another waste of epaper =D

Instead of creating another thread about it, why not write an original thought, and pose it for discussion? Not only that, but you can gear other threads into the right discussion, instead of insulting and making jks that only regulars would get.

I mean MP just created a thread labeled 'Amount of steroids you do', which wasnt another typical 'IM ON GRAMS OF STUFF'. He attempted to reach a certain audience with more than just a, 'are you f*&#%ing kidding me?!?!?'.

Just my thoughts.
I think a lot of guys including durk have a hard time writing serious bb posts....This board is a place to come and watch drama, and get shit going, and brag about the skanks they bang....lol...sad but im being honest...It is to bad, but whats anyone to do about it...Pretty hard environment to contain IMO....
It was a silly thread for sure....but there are many lately that are......
cest la vie, just try and read the bb related stuff, when you get bored read the other threads for entertainment....really it is a one stop shop here.....porn, funnies, bodybuilding, and the odd scrap here and there....
But why in gods name would someone write in and complain about trivial shit with everything else going on is beyond me....I saw a lot of whiny stuff when modding, and you definitely cannot please the majority here, so just have fun, educate when you can, and learn when you shoukd....:D

[nii]

Hey im with you, i enjoy the atmosphere here =D I just find it hard to believe that anyone would be surprised that MP or someone else shutdown a retarded thread. I mean, are you kidding me about the 'are you kidding me'?!
:bd

I think a lot of guys including durk have a hard time writing serious bb posts....This board is a place to come and watch drama, and get shit going, and brag about the skanks they bang....lol...sad but im being honest...It is to bad, but whats anyone to do about it...Pretty hard environment to contain IMO....
It was a silly thread for sure....but there are many lately that are......
cest la vie, just try and read the bb related stuff, when you get bored read the other threads for entertainment....really it is a one stop shop here.....porn, funnies, bodybuilding, and the odd scrap here and there....
But why in gods name would someone write in and complain about trivial shit with everything else going on is beyond me....I saw a lot of whiny stuff when modding, and you definitely cannot please the majority here, so just have fun, educate when you can, and learn when you shoukd....:D

[waderow]

you go to any BB site:

and there are silly cycles posted up by all sorts
skank stories
drama
dumb ****s with shitty advice
assholes with no social skills
good helpful bros
incredibly brilliant body builders

there is the whole selection on every public board.

Why is everyone always so concerned to the point of tears about some of this shit?

Just speak your mind, offer help if you can to those in need, and enjoy yourself.

Flame guys who are retarded, like we always do, and everyone always does on every other board, and hope one day they wont be retarded anymore.

[natenator]

Hey im with you, i enjoy the atmosphere here =D I just find it hard to believe that anyone would be surprised that MP or someone else shutdown a retarded thread. I mean, are you kidding me about the 'are you kidding me'?!
:bd
Yet the threads where some ****tard (redz) who outlines a cycle asking for feedback on 1000mg of tren a week is perfectly acceptable to not be shutdown?

All for serious discussion but Durk was making fun of these ****tards and I suspect it was said ****tards who were offended and reported the thread.

[AlladdinSane]

^^^Yes. Everything you said, yes.

[ironwill]

A better way to put what i was trying to convey........:D

Thats why we have different forum spots....


you go to any BB site:

and there are silly cycles posted up by all sorts
skank stories
drama
dumb ****s with shitty advice
assholes with no social skills
good helpful bros
incredibly brilliant body builders

there is the whole selection on every public board.

Why is everyone always so concerned to the point of tears about some of this shit?

Just speak your mind, offer help if you can to those in need, and enjoy yourself.

Flame guys who are retarded, like we always do, and everyone always does on every other board, and hope one day they wont be retarded anymore.

[nii]

I dont disagree, i think it has just as much merit to be shutdown as the thread you're questioning. But even if 1 out of 100 posts in that thread make Redz question his dosage or even if he's doing the right thing with AAS, then maybe it deserves to be there (would you agree?).

I just think there are better ways to get a message across. If these pp genuinely dont know they're doing something incredibly stupid and unsafe, then flaming isnt going to change their mind, it just puts someone in defense mode. Trying to explain to them through logic or information may just help, but that requires energy and effort, not many pp have that for perfect strangers.

If you dont care what he does, and just care about being funny etc, then by all means flame away. But i think you an MP want to bring something more to this community than that.


Yet thde threads where some ****tard (redz) who outlines a cycle asking for feedback on 1000mg of tren a week is perfectly acceptable to not be shutdown?

All for serious discussion but Durk was making fun of these ****tards and I suspect it was said ****tards who were offended and reported the thread.

[Durk]

There were already nice threads on the subject, but no one noticed them. I thought the message would come across better with a little pizaz! It worked well enough for MP to start a thread on it :D

[Big D]

i was about to start a thread almost like that, but with a new membership lol.
cycle was gonna be

1000mg test/week
1000mg EQ/week
1000mg Tren/week
100mg Dbol/ED

for a 170 pound guy I should gain 10 pounds ?
oh I forgot my diet is Obviously SPOT ON

[kloan]

i was about to start a thread almost like that, but with a new membership lol.
cycle was gonna be

1000mg test/week
1000mg EQ/week
1000mg Tren/week
100mg Dbol/ED

for a 170 pound guy I should gain 10 pounds ?
oh I forgot my diet is Obviously SPOT ON
Looks good. I think I might bump mine up to those... but I'd have to add dbol.

What's great about a cycle like that is that you can eat mc donalds, chips n pop, etc and still make massive gains and lean out and get shredded.

Thanks for the idea!

[faller]

^^^Yes. Everything you said, yes.

What, what did he say??!! He's on my ignor list!!

[kloan]

What, what did he say??!! He's on my ignor list!!

bahahahahaha......

[MuSuLPhReAk]

There were already nice threads on the subject, but no one noticed them. I thought the message would come across better with a little pizaz! It worked well enough for MP to start a thread on it :D

I understood the message you were trying to get across. I just had to redo it a less dramatic way and constructive. You can say you inspired that thread I made as I see some guys are going about it wrong.

Getting guys to see that that more is not better is not an easy thing to do. They have a specific mindset that if you attack them, it may reinforce their "plans" just out of pride. I feel doing it in a less provoking manner may make them actually read the posts without getting defensive and closing off to reason because of a bruised ego.

[natenator]

What, what did he say??!! He's on my ignor list!!
If I'm on your ignore list then how were you able to quote me?

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showpost.php?p=326635&postcount=8

[natenator]

I understood the message you were trying to get across. I just had to redo it a less dramatic way and constructive. You can say you inspired that thread I made as I see some guys are going about it wrong.

Getting guys to see that that more is not better is not an easy thing to do. They have a specific mindset that if you attack them, it may reinforce their "plans" just out of pride. I feel doing it in a less provoking manner may make them actually read the posts without getting defensive and closing off to reason because of a bruised ego.
I could point out several people who no matter what we told them and how softly we said it would still continue thinking they know best - one of them even posted in this thread.

I've never claimed to know all but I and several others have been in this game for a long time and have made many mistakes over the years but many people come here with the "get it done now" mentality and no matter what we say or how we say it they will ignore our advice in favour of their own ego.

In essence people are simply looking for "yes men" to agree with them and not tell them differently. Flaming isn't the way to get our point across (guilty as charged) but reading the same bullshit over and over from ignorant people is annoying so it gets easy to flame when really what I want to do is actually help someone not make the mistakes I've made in my 19 years in the iron game.

[natenator]

I dont disagree, i think it has just as much merit to be shutdown as the thread you're questioning. But even if 1 out of 100 posts in that thread make Redz question his dosage or even if he's doing the right thing with AAS, then maybe it deserves to be there (would you agree?).

I just think there are better ways to get a message across. If these pp genuinely dont know they're doing something incredibly stupid and unsafe, then flaming isnt going to change their mind, it just puts someone in defense mode. Trying to explain to them through logic or information may just help, but that requires energy and effort, not many pp have that for perfect strangers.

If you dont care what he does, and just care about being funny etc, then by all means flame away. But i think you an MP want to bring something more to this community than that.
I don't have time for a lengthy reply but with regards to your comment about redz tren feedback...yes I would agree if someone learn that 1000mg of tren/week was not a good idea them that's a good thing but here's my problem: people should KNOW 1000mg/Tre
is NOT a good idea without having to ask the damn question and if you don't know this then maybe you aren't ready for AAS??

The fact redz put that in as part of a potential cycle says something and the fact dreman later on in the thread recommended tren and deca in the same cycle says something. The fact people come on here asking for feedback on halo as a pre-workout boost says something. And the list goes on...

[faller]

If I'm on your ignore list then how were you able to quote me?

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showpost.php?p=326635&postcount=8

Busted! :D

[nii]

I don't have time for a lengthy reply but with regards to your comment about redz tren feedback...yes I would agree if someone learn that 1000mg of tren/week was not a good idea them that's a good thing but here's my problem: people should KNOW 1000mg/Tre
is NOT a good idea without having to ask the damn question and if you don't know this then maybe you aren't ready for AAS??

The fact redz put that in as part of a potential cycle says something and the fact dreman later on in the thread recommended tren and deca in the same cycle says something. The fact people come on here asking for feedback on halo as a pre-workout boost says something. And the list goes on...

I pretty much agree with everything you say mate. The only thing im saying is:
"I just think there are better ways to get a message across. If these pp genuinely dont know they're doing something incredibly stupid and unsafe, then flaming isnt going to change their mind, it just puts someone in defense mode. Trying to explain to them through logic or information may just help, but that requires energy and effort, not many pp have that for perfect strangers."

Its obvious that 100% success rate is not probable, but i think even a 10% success rate of changing someones mind is a good thing. If someone disagrees with me and says 2000mgs of Tren is no big deal (using an exaggerated statement), im not gonna get upset lol. Id attempt to correct their misconception, and thats all i CAN do. Even if the original poster doesnt get the message, many others who just read and dont post, may learn something new. Plus, id think youd be surprised about how receptive pp are when you arent hostile towards them, and convey that you only have good intentions.

You give plenty of good advice mate, just fine tune the '**** flap face' (or whatever it was)remarks and ur good to go lol. In fact theres only one time ive seen u give out poor advice, other than that, golden.

[faller]

The fact redz put that in as part of a potential cycle says something and the fact dreman later on in the thread recommended tren and deca in the same cycle says something. The fact people come on here asking for feedback on halo as a pre-workout boost says something. And the list goes on...

So you think a witty flame is the answer?? Actually i'm more curious as to why you have such hostility... Seriously..

[JacktheThriller]

I could point out several people who no matter what we told them and how softly we said it would still continue thinking they know best - one of them even posted in this thread.

I've never claimed to know all but I and several others have been in this game for a long time and have made many mistakes over the years but many people come here with the "get it done now" mentality and no matter what we say or how we say it they will ignore our advice in favour of their own ego.

In essence people are simply looking for "yes men" to agree with them and not tell them differently. Flaming isn't the way to get our point across (guilty as charged) but reading the same bullshit over and over from ignorant people is annoying so it gets easy to flame when really what I want to do is actually help someone not make the mistakes I've made in my 19 years in the iron game.



I agree with Nate on people looking for "yes men", if u want that goto BB.com, people more experienced than u offer their knowledge with a smidgin of insult (due to your complete lack of research before PUTTING SYNTHETIC HORMONE INTO YOUR BODY) take that knowledge and research it. I think most of the people on this board operate on the appeal to personal experience, very few of us are authorities on anabolics due to their illegal nature, and human research testing is far from complete. Get a copy of a decent anabolics handbook (ANABOLICS 2009) and read up. Im not on steriods, mainly because its expensive if done right and i simply dont know enough about them. The fact that i know more about cycling and anabolics than some people on this site that are actually on steriods is VERY SCARY!

[nii]

Im not on steriods, mainly because its expensive if done right and i simply dont know enough about them.

If you think gear is expensive compared to your weekly food bill, you're not eating enough :ne.

[L3]

If you think gear is expensive compared to your weekly food bill, you're not eating enough :ne.

:a+

[JacktheThriller]

That was directed to personal finance. I dont have any extra money since i goto school so expensive for someone else is different. And by right i meant a complete cycle vs picking up a bottle of dbol and doing that alone (done wrong)

[ironwill]

Steroids definitley arent expensive if done right...If done wrong, then yes i agree....

[JacktheThriller]

revised lol ^^

[JacktheThriller]

That was directed to personal finance. I dont have any extra money since i goto school so expensive for someone else is different. And by right i meant a complete cycle vs picking up a bottle of dbol and doing that alone (done wrong)

[theboss]

Steroids definitley arent expensive if done right...If done wrong, then yes i agree....

so what are you saying?

more gear doesnt help if your diet is poor ???

hmmmmm.......

[natenator]

So you think a witty flame is the answer?? Actually i'm more curious as to why you have such hostility... Seriously..
Read an earlier post where I said flaming was not right and that I was guilty as charged.

I've been around forums for the better part of 8 years and nothing changes. People want the quick fix and fail to do some of the leg work for themselves first before hitting the sauce.

My desire to help is greatly outweighed by my desire to call someone an idiot otherwise I wouldn't be here trying to help those who I think actually want the help. But I am human and self amittedly have zero patience a lot of times so instead of attempting to be helpful I flame instead. I never said what I do is right nor do I ever condone my outright flaming when I do it (although sometimes it is warranted!) but even you have to admit some of what we see on here is outright stupidity worthy of telling someone they are being stupid?

Your comments last week or whenever it was about people in their early 30's thinking they'll need to be on HRT is similar... the stupid of people and their usage is leading to that need and those thoughts.

[faller]

Read an earlier post where I said flaming was not right and that I was guilty as charged.

I've been around forums for the better part of 8 years and nothing changes. People want the quick fix and fail to do some of the leg work for themselves first before hitting the sauce.

My desire to help is greatly outweighed by my desire to call someone an idiot otherwise I wouldn't be here trying to help those who I think actually want the help. But I am human and self amittedly have zero patience a lot of times so instead of attempting to be helpful I flame instead. I never said what I do is right nor do I ever condone my outright flaming when I do it (although sometimes it is warranted!) but even you have to admit some of what we see on here is outright stupidity worthy of telling someone they are being stupid?

Your comments last week or whenever it was about people in their early 30's thinking they'll need to be on HRT is similar... the stupid of people and their usage is leading to that need and those thoughts.

Damn, and here i thought i was going to get into a debate and argument with ya:D

I remember back when i first got on these boards it was a long time before i ever posted.. I read everything i could get my hands on HRT, i knew i needed something but wasn't sure what it was. Even after getting a fair bit of knowledge on the subject, reflecting back i still managed to ask some pretty stupid questions..

Had i been flamed i'm not sure if anything would have changed, but i sure was grateful that for the most part guys were pretty good about it.

I agree with what you say above, i'm not sure what the answer is to some of those that really aren't looking for advice.. Flame them or ignor them i guess..

However i don't agree that posting anything other than serious topic's in the Hormone Replacement Therapy - HRT section should be allowed. IMO that thread should have been locked down..

[natenator]

Damn, and here i thought i was going to get into a debate and argument with ya:D

I remember back when i first got on these boards it was a long time before i ever posted.. I read everything i could get my hands on HRT, i knew i needed something but wasn't sure what it was. Even after getting a fair bit of knowledge on the subject, reflecting back i still managed to ask some pretty stupid questions..

Had i been flamed i'm not sure if anything would have changed, but i sure was grateful that for the most part guys were pretty good about it.

I agree with what you say above, i'm not sure what the answer is to some of those that really aren't looking for advice.. Flame them or ignor them i guess..

However i don't agree that posting anything other than serious topic's in the Hormone Replacement Therapy - HRT section should be allowed. IMO that thread should have been locked down..
Absolutely I agree it should have been locked down. My problem isn't that it was locked. My problem is that it had reports which caused it to be locked yet the threads that list of stupid crazy cycles don't get reported or locked. It's the contradiction that bothers me. Ok to report a thread which was an attempt at humour about the stupid crazy cycles that get listed yet perfectly fine when the crazy cycle threads are legit.

The problem I have isn't that it was locked :)

[waderow]

Absolutely I agree it should have been locked down. My problem isn't that it was locked. My problem is that it had reports which caused it to be locked yet the threads that list of stupid crazy cycles don't get reported or locked. It's the contradiction that bothers me. Ok to report a thread which was an attempt at humour about the stupid crazy cycles that get listed yet perfectly fine when the crazy cycle threads are legit.

The problem I have isn't that it was locked :)

shouldn't a thread with a crazy cycle and bad combos be left open so the knowledge can be shared with that lost soul?

[natenator]

shouldn't a thread with a crazy cycle and bad combos be left open so the knowledge can be shared with that lost soul?
it's a fine line.

If I hadn't made the comment about Durks's thread being a joke about rated_tko then no one likely would have been the wiser and Durk probably would have continued to play along.

Again, my problem isn't that it was locked. My problem is that idiots felt the need to report it (a joke thread) yet highly unlikely crazy cycle threads get reported.

[billyfuckinbananas]

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13179

THIS thread had complaints reported which caused MP to close it? While I agree the HRT is for serious discussion some people felt the need to complain about a thread which was poking fun at some of the jokers here and the cycles they run but serious discussion of these joke cycles is perfectly acceptable?

For those who complain I'd like to know where you are when the threads on people's massive cycle threads are going on?

shut up fatboy.. sit down

and please for all our sakes get those bitch tits cut out

[billyfuckinbananas]

for 6k they go in at the armpit now

[natenator]

shut up fatboy.. sit down

and please for all our sakes get those bitch tits cut out
lol

no bitch tits here but you pretty much have zero credibility with your 3 quality posts one of which saying all chinese gh is made equal.

Cdnsolider... is that you?

[PdH]

Durk's girlfriend on the right!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iz6Tc5rguUs/SCMkc-EBaCI/AAAAAAAAAPA/mF7Nka86K0Y/s400/skanks.jpg

[cog]

lol

no bitch tits here but you pretty much have zero credibility with your 3 quality posts one of which saying all chinese gh is made equal.

Cdnsolider... is that you?


Cdnsoldier was mentioning 6K in hospital bills at one time.

[Durk]

I was serious when I said in other threads that I am a counsellor, so obviously I know the right and wrong ways of getting a point across. Some of you might have to take into consideration that

A.) Some people are too thick headed to get the said point into their heads.

More importantly

B.) Its very possible that I am a prick who enjoys provoking people. :)

[Durk]

Durk's girlfriend on the right!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iz6Tc5rguUs/SCMkc-EBaCI/AAAAAAAAAPA/mF7Nka86K0Y/s400/skanks.jpg

I would hit that

[Gilmour]

I would hit that
Pretty sure they are trannies bro.

[Durk]

Pretty sure they are trannies bro.

with a baseball bat

[Gilmour]

with a baseball bat


You've seen their cocks?

[Durk]

You've seen their cocks?

cmon man, I dunno if I should feel offended or turned on right now. Leave me alone lol.

[Gilmour]

cmon man, I dunno if I should feel offended or turned on right now. Leave me alone lol.
I was joking. You meant you'd hit it with a baseball bat. I tried making a funny. Sorry. :ne

[ironwill]

counsel gilmore into submission.....

[ironwill]

damn, you did it, he said sorry before you even posted and while i was posting.....you are damn good durk........

[PdH]

Durk, If you're a counselor . I'm an atomic energy analyst.

[dremen]

So i guess everything regarding AA steroids is writen in stone...lol

I guess if someone runs a bulker that's not test/deca/dbol or a cutter that not test/var/winny they are ****ing morons eh:ji

If you don't have an M.D. after your name who are you to say what is right or wrong? Most of the advice people dish out is just copy/paste shit from over the years anyways.

Lots of guys here know a good deal of info, but seem a lil stuck in there ways like an old man who won't use his seetbelt or thinks rock n roll is evil.:shock

[waderow]

dremen, you need to learn about compounds and their affects and sides.

if two compounds are very hard on the same type of side effect, then you avoid using them together unless youre a ****ing moron.

its not about not being adventurous

[gicantor]

^^^so my next cycle shouldn't be deca, tren and A bombs? Shit!

[waderow]

lol only if youre dremen

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Moved it into the HRT forum as it's more relevant here.

[vakker]

Listen, you wanna take asprin to cure your HIV or St. Johns Wart for your HPV, thats fine, just don't expect anyone to agree with you when you go public on the internet asking for opinions.

Steroids are the same way, you wanna act crazy with no idea about what they do or don't do to fix or harm you? go banana's but just don't bring it up. Don't ask, don't tell.



So i guess everything regarding AA steroids is writen in stone...lol

I guess if someone runs a bulker that's not test/deca/dbol or a cutter that not test/var/winny they are ****ing morons eh:ji

If you don't have an M.D. after your name who are you to say what is right or wrong? Most of the advice people dish out is just copy/paste shit from over the years anyways.
:shock

[Durk]

Durk, If you're a counselor . I'm an atomic energy analyst.

I believe you mr. juiced up fraiser crane.

[natenator]

Listen, you wanna take asprin to cure your HIV or St. Johns Wart for your HPV, thats fine, just don't expect anyone to agree with you when you go public on the internet asking for opinions.

Steroids are the same way, you wanna act crazy with no idea about what they do or don't do to fix or harm you? go banana's but just don't bring it up. Don't ask, don't tell.
Now you know why the flame throw is usually quick to come out?

[kloan]

Google Test/Deca/Tren cycles.... some people have run them and haven't had any problems.

Would I do it? Nope... not worth the risk. But it seems some people have with success. So maybe Dremen would be one of the lucky ones, who's to say?

You guys keep saying "it's retarded", but haven't actually backed up your statements with any actual facts as to why it would be unwise.

[waderow]

Google Test/Deca/Tren cycles.... some people have run them and haven't had any problems.

Would I do it? Nope... not worth the risk. But it seems some people have with success. So maybe Dremen would be one of the lucky ones, who's to say?

You guys keep saying "it's retarded", but haven't actually backed up your statements with any actual facts as to why it would be unwise.

why on ****ing earth would you post this when you yourself have already come to the conclusion "its not worth the risk"

jesus christ

[kloan]

why on ****ing earth would you post this when you yourself have already come to the conclusion "its not worth the risk"

jesus christ

Beeeeeeecauseeee......... not everyone is created equal. What might be damaging to one person might not be to another. So some guys may lack caution, experiment with unadvised combinations and will get away with it.

For me, I don't know if it would be damaging or not, and I don't feel like risking it when I'm perfectly content with what I've chosen to use. But some guys are willing and they just might have a great cycle, who knows... cuz none of you have actually SAID just what the hell might be so terrible about it, other than the fact that they're both highly suppressive compounds.

Jimminy Cricket.

[waderow]

Beeeeeeecauseeee......... not everyone is created equal. What might be damaging to one person might not be to another. So some guys may lack caution, experiment with unadvised combinations and will get away with it.

For me, I don't know if it would be damaging or not, and I don't feel like risking it when I'm perfectly content with what I've chosen to use. But some guys are willing and they just might have a great cycle, who knows... cuz none of you have actually SAID just what the hell might be so terrible about it, other than the fact that they're both highly suppressive compounds.

Jimminy Cricket.

but its okay for dremen to make recommendations on this "HIGHLY SUPPRESSIVE" and highly prolactin aggravating cycle on the open board?
just as long as you dont have to do it.....

weird logic Kloan.

[natenator]

Beeeeeeecauseeee......... not everyone is created equal. What might be damaging to one person might not be to another. So some guys may lack caution, experiment with unadvised combinations and will get away with it.

For me, I don't know if it would be damaging or not, and I don't feel like risking it when I'm perfectly content with what I've chosen to use. But some guys are willing and they just might have a great cycle, who knows... cuz none of you have actually SAID just what the hell might be so terrible about it, other than the fact that they're both highly suppressive compounds.

Jimminy Cricket.
And some people may very wel be fine running tren at 1000mg/ week for 17 weeks but I sure as hell wouldn't advise it .

[kloan]

but its okay for dremen to make recommendations on this "HIGHLY SUPPRESSIVE" and highly prolactin aggravating cycle on the open board?
just as long as you dont have to do it.....

weird logic Kloan.

Wait, he was recommending it? We're obviously on different pages.... I thought he was just saying he was going to try it himself.

Nahhh, tossing out recommendations for something like that IS retarded. Gotta keep that shit to yourself, can't be telling people to run cycles like that, I agree with you there.

Haha... too funny. This is part of the reason why he was banned from another board... people kept getting pissed off at him for giving out shitty cycle advice.....lol. Sorry Dremen, but that's pretty ****in funny.

[natenator]

but its okay for dremen to make recommendations on this "HIGHLY SUPPRESSIVE" and highly prolactin aggravating cycle on the open board?
just as long as you dont have to do it.....

weird logic Kloan.
+1.

[waderow]

Wait, he was recommending it? We're obviously on the wrong page.... I thought he was just saying he was going to try it himself.

Nahhh, tossing out recommendations for something like that IS retarded. Gotta keep that shit to yourself, can't be telling people to run cycles like that, I agree with you there.

i dont give a flying **** what cycles dremen does. I think its funny at this juncture.

[natenator]

Wait, he was recommending it? We're obviously on different pages.... I thought he was just saying he was going to try it himself.

Nahhh, tossing out recommendations for something like that IS retarded. Gotta keep that shit to yourself, can't be telling people to run cycles like that, I agree with you there.

Haha... too funny. This is part of the reason why he was banned from another board... people kept getting pissed off at him for giving out shitty cycle advice.....lol. Sorry Dremen, but that's pretty ****in funny.
Do you think I just made it up when I said dreman recommended tren and deca together?

[Durk]

On like 200mgs of ace I commited assualt by burger, and had consistent gains every week. I couldny even handle more than 7 weeks of it. I couldnt imagine anyone taking or even needing a gram.

[kloan]

Do you think I just made it up when I said dreman recommended tren and deca together?
Didn't see the post, you've been on a time out.

[dremen]

First off there is NO need to turn this into a "Lets bash Dremen" thread for **** saked.

Secondly the only time i can remember mentioning tren/deca being run together was in redz thread where he was talking about running 1000mgs of tren EW so god forbid i mention tren and deca together....lol http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showpost.php?p=325011&postcount=32

Honestly nate stop making me out to be some random guy posting what should and should not be run or done or said or even thought in ones own head cause that's YOUR job or at least it SEEMS that was to me.

I can't even inject 2ml's into my bicep with out getting flack from a bunch of you guys here:ji

Look out here comes the Steroid Police....lol

[natenator]

First off there is NO need to turn this into a "Lets bash Dremen" thread for **** saked.

Secondly the only time i can remember mentioning tren/deca being run together was in redz thread where he was talking about running 1000mgs of tren EW so god forbid i mention tren and deca together....lol http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showpost.php?p=325011&postcount=32

Honestly nate stop making me out to be some random guy posting what should and should not be run or done or said or even thought in ones own head cause that's YOUR job or at least it SEEMS that was to me.

I can't even inject 2ml's into my bicep with out getting flack from a bunch of you guys here:ji

Look out here comes the Steroid Police....lol
I did use you as am example as well as redz (referred to him as a ****tard which I did not do to you) and the idiots wantig to use halo as a preworkout boost.

I'm not bashing you. Just illustrating a point. No need to get bent out of shape and I did not say anything on your bicep injection thread.

[dremen]

I did use you as am example as well as redz (referred to him as a ****tard which I did not do to you) and the idiots wantig to use halo as a preworkout boost.

I'm not bashing you. Just illustrating a point. No need to get bent out of shape and I did not say anything on your bicep injection thread.


It's one thing to make your point, but to use me as an example of "stupid" is not right nate.

Besides we all know jerking off is the best pre workout boost....lol;)

[Big D]

I did not say anything on your bicep injection thread.

i think alot of people were bitting there tongue. :)

[dremen]

i think alot of people were bitting there tongue. :)

Why, just cause other people can't handle that much oil in there bicep means i have to do the same? PFFFFFTT

Some guys train legs 2x a week, some 1x a week, some guys can shoot 3-4ml in each glute with no problems at all and some can handle a lil more volume in there biceps so BIG ****ING DEAL.

Christ it's so retarded here when you get bashed for not conforming to the norm:mock

**** the norm:ji

[natenator]

Why, just cause other people can't handle that much oil in there bicep means i have to do the same? PFFFFFTT

Some guys train legs 2x a week, some 1x a week, some guys can shoot 3-4ml in each glute with no problems at all and some can handle a lil more volume in there biceps so BIG ****ING DEAL.

Christ it's so retarded here when you get bashed for not conforming to the norm:mock

**** the norm:ji
I think you should run 1000mg of tren and 1000mg of deca/week for a 20 week cycle. You know, since you are so he'll bent on not conforming ;)

[waderow]

I think you should run 1000mg of tren and 1000mg of deca/week for a 20 week cycle. You know, since you are so he'll bent on not conforming ;)

he would probably thicken out a fair bit......and would also be able to make his own coffee creamer

[Sandwiches]

^ lol

[vakker]

Christ it's so retarded here when you get bashed for not conforming to the norm:mock

**** the norm:ji

unless you have 4 arms and 5 eyes, guess what? you are part of the norm. You die from a shank to the chest, just like we all do.

[C-money]

LMAO WADER!!

[dremen]

You guys are a bunch of ****ing kids....lol

Fine my next cycle will include tren-ace and npp. All you haters will eat your words when i don't grow bitch tits or drip milk from my titties:)

Flame away children:ji :ht

[waderow]

makes me want to gag.... now that's a dremen worthy cycle

[dremen]

Why not run this cycle instead??.....Andreas Munzer's death cycle....he was one striated dude

Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix


Look im not ****ing insane im just going to prove running tren and deca together is not going to kill ya....lol

Was thinking this cycle:

Test-prop@150mg/EOD
Tren-ace@100mg/EOD
Npp@75mg/EOD
dostinex@.5mg/E3D

[dremen]

makes me want to gag.... now that's a dremen worthy cycle


I got a waderow worthy steel toe boot over here...lol

Wade you don't need to be a ****ing prick ok.

[ironwill]

Look im not ****ing insane im just going to prove running tren and deca together is not going to kill ya....lol

Was thinking this cycle:

Test-prop@150mg/EOD
Tren-ace@100mg/EOD
Npp@75mg/EOD
dostinex@.5mg/E3D
Honestly, id try a bit more test in there...

[waderow]

I got a waderow worthy steel toe boot over here...lol

Wade you don't need to be a ****ing prick ok.

Dremen, you're like the village idiot. Great to make fun of, but you'd miss him if he were gone.

[waderow]

on a tren, nandrolone stacked cycle, it will not be the end of the world. And in fact, you may see some good gains, and metabolism changes.

BUT:
Your peepee will slowly stop working well, and you will likely develop prolactin gyno, which can lead to lactating.

If you do this, I would keep test high 200-300 eod, and take dostinex,


There Dremen..... all bullshit aside.

[L3]

he would probably thicken out a fair bit......and would also be able to make his own coffee creamer

i know that movie!

[ironwill]

on a tren, nandrolone stacked cycle, it will not be the end of the world. And in fact, you may see some good gains, and metabolism changes.

Your peepee will slowly stop working well, and you will likely develop prolactin gyno, which can lead to lactating.

If you do this, I would keep test high 200-300 eod, and take dostinex,


There Dremen..... all bullshit aside.
agreed with big bird....

[Ritch]

Dremen, you're like the village idiot. Great to make fun of, but you'd miss him if he were gone.

I try to stay neutral, but that was funny!

[Durk]

hahaha dremen = Olympian v2.0

Only old schoolers will get the reference.

[dremen]

Why do you feel there is a need for more test to be run?

300mg/EOD sounds fun, but 200mgEOD is more like it.

[waderow]

Why do you feel there is a need for more test to be run?

300mg/EOD sounds fun, but 200mgEOD is more like it.

so you can still achieve an erection

[Ritch]

on a tren, nandrolone stacked cycle, it will not be the end of the world. And in fact, you may see some good gains, and metabolism changes.

BUT:
Your peepee will slowly stop working well, and you will likely develop prolactin gyno, which can lead to lactating.

If you do this, I would keep test high 200-300 eod, and take dostinex,


There Dremen..... all bullshit aside.

I would take this advice if I were you Dremen. If you go with 150mg of test you have less mg total of test than the deca and tren combined. Not much, but still less. It`s common knowledge to have equal amounts of test or greater to the other anabolics you add in, especially when the other anabolics are the king of suppresion kinds like deca and tren. You have lot`s of time to sit on this info to reflect, but don`t think you will find many who will disagree with what Wade is saying here.

[dremen]

I would take this advice if I were you Dremen. If you go with 150mg of test you have less mg total of test than the deca and tren combined. Not much, but still less. It`s common knowledge to have equal amounts of test or greater to the other anabolics you add in, especially when the other anabolics are the king of suppresion kinds like deca and tren. You have lot`s of time to sit on this info to reflect, but don`t think you will find many who will disagree with what Wade is saying here.


Good point.

[Ritch]

^^^ Great, glad you`re seeing the light of things!

[L3]

plz keep a log