Beginner - Proviron:Dianabol Ratio?

[Jared11]

Hey guys. Just managed to finally get my new gear. I have been training for 3 years aprox and much activity even before that. 198lbs, 5'11, endo-mesomorph build. Just a few quick questionsI have in regards to beginning my first cycle...
1) Would be starting at 25mg per day (Dbol) be fairly sufficient? Also what would the proper proviron portion be to counter the estrogen convertion that the Dbol sets? (This proviron is 25mg a piece)

2)Can both be taken at the same time(s) throughout the day?

3)I would like to use the Dbol as a Jump start my mass building cycle. Proviron will be used throughout cycle and PCT. After the Dbol cycle is coming to the end, would it be a good idea to slowly taper off my Dbol portions and slowly replace them with Turanabol? (Bridge into another cycle of Turanabol, and will consist of "hardening" what I will have gained on the previous Dbol cycle)

Thankyou for any helpful advice!:cflag

[_Ragnar_]

All i can say is please dont do AAS. You need to read some more.

[Jared11]

I have done much, much research. For quite some time now, however id like to hear some opinions of experienced users of how they "typicially" find the effects at certain dosages. I have seen many many articles and scripts saying how much should be taken from numerous authors and references, but they are all off one another by 10, sometimes 15 mgs. I will be doing this cycle, I am only looking for some support, as I would like to get the most beneficial results from doing it the right way, though I do respect your opinion on AAS.

[vakker]

provirion is largely useless below 80-100mg daily. or at least that is my experience. no ratio involved.

[gustavo77]

You definitely need to do more research. If you are the type of person who is very sensitive to estrogen, then Proviron will not help. Proviron is not an anti-estrogen, it is a mild androgen.

Also...a d-bol only cycle is a terrible idea.

[beginnerbuilder2010]

I think you better do some much much more RESEARCH ther bro, before taking those orals, as injectables are the way to go, especially Test for a first cycle...keep it simple. Listen to Ragnar and gustavo77 , do better research for your first cycle and you'll figure out what AAS are good for u and your first cycle...but make sure you do all the right planing and safeguards before you do AAS.... P.S. im not claiming to be an expert but just here to give u some helpful advice, but ther are some real good BB pros here on CBB.com , so you will have all the help in the world..... later bro. hardwork and training :bch = results :hu

[revolution187]

first cycle? i would do dbol for a maximum of 5 weeks at 20 mgs and weeks 1-10 of sustanon at 500mgs a week divided into two shots, one on mon and one on thurs, 10 days after ur last shot i would start 3 weeks of nolva at 20mgs a day and maybe 30 for first week, if u cant get this stuff then maybe dont do juice cause a dbol only cycle will make a strong watery mess followed by a huge crash and possible gyno and no liver

[theboss]

tisk tisk

[gustavo77]

first cycle? i would do dbol for a maximum of 5 weeks at 20 mgs and weeks 1-10 of sustanon at 500mgs a week divided into two shots, one on mon and one on thurs, 10 days after ur last shot i would start 3 weeks of nolva at 20mgs a day and maybe 30 for first week, if u cant get this stuff then maybe dont do juice cause a dbol only cycle will make a strong watery mess followed by a huge crash and possible gyno and no liver

Sustanon contains the decanoate ester which has a half life of 18-21 days, why would you start pct ten days after the last shot?? The test would still be active bro.

[Memo]

first cycle? i would do dbol for a maximum of 5 weeks at 20 mgs and weeks 1-10 of sustanon at 500mgs a week divided into two shots, one on mon and one on thurs, 10 days after ur last shot i would start 3 weeks of nolva at 20mgs a day and maybe 30 for first week, if u cant get this stuff then maybe dont do juice cause a dbol only cycle will make a strong watery mess followed by a huge crash and possible gyno and no liver

this is not a very good advice.

[_Ragnar_]

The OP posted this in june either he went with his cycle or hopefully listened. I dont think it matters now.

[bigtavi8]

Shitt EDIT didnt see how old the thread was...the damage is already done and they probobly quit BB now and dont check the site. lol

[revolution187]

hey memo, im listening...why is my advice bad? dbol sucks and makes u collect water, and 10 weeker of sus is long enough for a first timer, also i know there is a long ester in sus but after 10 days its prob not even that concentrated, im not being sarcastic, just tell me where the fuk up is so i dont do it myself