How to use HCG

[spinalcolum]

Hey guys,,
Ive been on a low dose of test and deca (300mgs each/week) for the last 7 months.
I have decided that being on for an extnded period of time,, that my normal clomid routine will not suffice.

How much will i need for HRT and what method is best.
Thanks for the input.

[St]

Two method's 500iu ed for 10 day's straight,or 1500-5000 iu for 2-3 weeks max.

[vakker]

Two method's 500iu ed for 10 day's straight,or 1500-5000 iu for 2-3 weeks max.

You know, HCG is one of those drugs that no one knows the truth. One study (power pct or something) said 2000ui twice a week, some boards say 1500ui ED/EOD, this board the consensus is usually 500ui twice a week. Then we have the above which states that you should use max 5000ui over 10 days but if you are going 14-21 days, 1500ui or 2000ui or 2500ui or 5000ui is fine.


confused?

[Praetorian]

300mg test weekly along with 300mg deca weekly is definitely on the lower side...a moderate dose would be 500test and 400deca...a very common dose among national level or pro BB's would be 1000-1200mg test plus 600mg deca weekly.

500iu twice weekly would be a sufficient dose of hcg if it was used concurrently during your cycle to prevent LH desensitization however it will most likely be quite insufficient to sensitize the leydig cells to LH being that you have most likely been shut down for some time now. You will require a larger kickstart then 500iu...I would suggest 1500iu ETD for two weeks...then run the clomid at 50mg twice daily for two weeks. You will require an AI as well during the HCG run and you can continue it with the clomid until finished.
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[spinalcolum]

300mg test weekly along with 300mg deca weekly is definitely on the lower side...a moderate dose would be 500test and 400deca...a very common dose among national level or pro BB's would be 1000-1200mg test plus 600mg deca weekly.

500iu twice weekly would be a sufficient dose of hcg if it was used concurrently during your cycle to prevent LH desensitization however it will most likely be quite insufficient to sensitize the leydig cells to LH being that you have most likely been shut down for some time now. You will require a larger kickstart then 500iu...I would suggest 1500iu ETD for two weeks...then run the clomid at 50mg twice daily for two weeks. You will require an AI as well during the HCG run and you can continue it with the clomid until finished.
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Thanks for the reply's guys...

What type of pin is usually used.. (Insuilin pin?) When you have the vial of HCG and Vialof BAC h20,, do you put all of the BAC H2O into the HCG and shake it up....?

I do consider 300mg/s per week of both Test and Deca to be a very safe and low amount to use.. I actually use this cycle to cope with my sports injuries. Bad arthritis in my knee from 4 surgeries and also rotator cuff issues.
I rarely work out besides swimming and stretching. The T & D help unbelievably with my pain issues. Plus I look and feel like a million $$$.

[Praetorian]

Thanks for the reply's guys...

What type of pin is usually used.. (Insuilin pin?) When you have the vial of HCG and Vialof BAC h20,, do you put all of the BAC H2O into the HCG and shake it up....?

I do consider 300mg/s per week of both Test and Deca to be a very safe and low amount to use.. I actually use this cycle to cope with my sports injuries. Bad arthritis in my knee from 4 surgeries and also rotator cuff issues.
I rarely work out besides swimming and stretching. The T & D help unbelievably with my pain issues. Plus I look and feel like a million $$$.

Yes an insulin pin is fine. Depends on how strong a solution you want. If the HCG comes in 10,000iu and you add 5ml BW then youll have 2000iu per ml. Never shake HCG just swirl it around until it becomes clear in solution.
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[meathead]

Two method's 500iu ed for 10 day's straight,or 1500-5000 iu for 2-3 weeks max.

St has the right ideas. There a couple of ways or schools of thought. Any copy of anabolics regardless of the year be it 2002-2009 had the POWER program PCT. Check it out if U can.

[spinalcolum]

Thanks guys for the help! Just did my first shot of the intervet hcg...Wow,,that stung going in..lol.

[cog]

IIRC,Gustavo mentioned mixing it with something else so that it doesn't sting as much.

[vakker]

Thanks guys for the help! Just did my first shot of the intervet hcg...Wow,,that stung going in..lol.

I have heard that if you use that vial that it comes with, the shelf life becomes 48 hours, using bacosteric water, it becomes 3 weeks

[Max 750]

So in order to keep the leydig cells going one has to start hcg within the first few weeks of a cylce and run it throughout @ 250-500 iu's wk??

[L3]

^ yes, 250-500iu e3d

[gustavo77]

Thanks guys for the help! Just did my first shot of the intervet hcg...Wow,,that stung going in..lol.

Don;t use the water the intervet came with bro...get some bacteriostatic water or bacteriostatic sodium chloride...there will not be any sting with those dilutents.

[spinalcolum]

I have heard that if you use that vial that it comes with, the shelf life becomes 48 hours, using bacosteric water, it becomes 3 weeks

Can you elaborate on that?? I dont quite understand.. I put the bactertiostatic water into the vial with the HCG.

[spinalcolum]

Don;t use the water the intervet came with bro...get some bacteriostatic water or bacteriostatic sodium chloride...there will not be any sting with those dilutents.

Ok,,,I Forget what labael the Bacteriostatic water was,,but i do know that it was that..
Good to know though.

[Canseco33]

Thanks guys for the help! Just did my first shot of the intervet hcg...Wow,,that stung going in..lol.

With the Chorulon, use the bacteriostatic water instead of the solvent, it is much less painful...

[steve_o]

If you have 5000iu of HCG add it to 5ml of BAC water and you will therefore have 1000iu per ml. If you are going to be doing a 500iu dose twice a week you would use 1/2 ml for each dose. Store the rest in the fridge and it will last around 4 weeks. You most likely need 2 packages of HCG if you are going to run it for say 10 weeks during your cycle.

[GYMBRAT]

With the Chorulon, use the bacteriostatic water instead of the solvent, it is much less painful...

also with bac h2o it will keep longer during storage

[sierra1]

Where could I get some bacteriostic water and how much will it cost?

[sierra1]

I have heard that if you use that vial that it comes with, the shelf life becomes 48 hours, using bacosteric water, it becomes 3 weeks

I hope thats not true.

[spinalcolum]

Gustavo,,I thought i was using Bact h20,,but it actually was the water that came with the intervet. I hope it will last for the 10 days that i need it.
Holy ##*$ does that stuff sting like nothing else. I missed a day,, so loaded up 1 ml and it felt like the sting of a thousand bees!