Looking any bigger/better?

[dremen]

Well i know Nate and Ironwill will say i look like shit so im wondering what others honestly think?

Morning scale weight is 235lbs and 45 minutes cardio per day was started last week and weight is still going up so thank you tren and 1test.....lol

Thanks.



http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1060/77729271.jpg

[Gilmour]

Pretty thick back IMO. You look as though you have a naturally thick waist. You'll have to get really wide to get a v taper but you are on your way.

[dremen]

Pretty thick back IMO. You look as though you have a naturally thick waist. You'll have to get really wide to get a v taper but you are on your way.

Well i was wearing 32'' pants when i started bulking in July now i can't even fit in 38''.....lol

Ya my ass and hips are the only places my body seems to store fat....lol

Thanks Gilmore:)

[waderow]

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[natenator]

listen you ****tard cowpoke piece of shit. I've left you alone (with exception of your recommendation to use tren and deca - ****nut) so stop calling me out.

And I never said you looked like shit. I said I couldn't believe you juiced and especially for the type of cycle that you are on. That's a cycle for someone with a more advanced physique.

So **** off, eat shit and die a horrible, horrible death you **** flap scab.

[L3]

wow and i thought i was having a rough morning

[faller]

Looking good dreman.

**** this board is starting to suck!

[ironwill]

listen you ****tard cowpoke piece of shit. I've left you alone (with exception of your recommendation to use tren and deca - ****nut) so stop calling me out.

And I never said you looked like shit. I said I couldn't believe you juiced and especially for the type of cycle that you are on. That's a cycle for someone with a more advanced physique.

So **** off, eat shit and die a horrible, horrible death you **** flap scab.
.......i edited it......It almost x-mas, im to happy....

[GYMBRAT]

OUCH! ^

....you can tell your gaining bro but imo you should be upping your cals to get the size train rolling, since you are bulking, other wise good work bro keep it up!!

[waderow]

listen you ****tard cowpoke piece of shit. I've left you alone (with exception of your recommendation to use tren and deca - ****nut) so stop calling me out.

And I never said you looked like shit. I said I couldn't believe you juiced and especially for the type of cycle that you are on. That's a cycle for someone with a more advanced physique.

So **** off, eat shit and die a horrible, horrible death you **** flap scab.

lol that is an insult I have never heard before

[countrychic]

[QUOTE=dremen;325663]Well i know Nate and Ironwill will say i look like shit so im wondering what others honestly think?

Morning scale weight is 235lbs and 45 minutes cardio per day was started last week and weight is still going up so thank you tren and 1test.....lol

Thanks.




dremen I don't usually chime into this kind of shit....but honestly you need to stop calling people out and get over it already...as bad as this sounds "you are acting like a girl" holding grudges and not getting over this crap. You have all said your piece and the two that you mentioned above have left you alone. You continue this drama and it brings the board down.Every post becomes an attack. You are wanting advice on your pics and this is how you go about it...... it's going to be nothing but negativity. Now you can take the advice and carry on or have some come back towards me I don't really care. But it's getting old!

[GYMBRAT]

true dat^ let bygones be bygones peeps, **** it.....k i'm done :D

[O-Train]

Is it just me or is it weird to have a light switch jammed up against the corner like that?

Post up the other picture(s) for comparison. You seem to be gaining a lot of weight.

[ironwill]

[QUOTE=dremen;325663]Well i know Nate and Ironwill will say i look like shit so im wondering what others honestly think?

Morning scale weight is 235lbs and 45 minutes cardio per day was started last week and weight is still going up so thank you tren and 1test.....lol

Thanks.




dremen I don't usually chime into this kind of shit....but honestly you need to stop calling people out and get over it already...as bad as this sounds "you are acting like a girl" holding grudges and not getting over this crap. You have all said your piece and the two that you mentioned above have left you alone. You continue this drama and it brings the board down.Every post becomes an attack. You are wanting advice on your pics and this is how you go about it...... it's going to be nothing but negativity. Now you can take the advice and carry on or have some come back towards me I don't really care. But it's getting old!
My hunny has a better way with words....I edited my retort......;)

[JonnyO]

I dont think he was calling anyone out personally. All he did was mention two names that may be a bit harsh on him thats all.

Since when does someone have to have an "advanced build" to use certain compounds? lol. You mean advanced like you Nate???

Dremen, I will say you dont look 235 to me, maybe the pics I dont know, maybe some different angles to really see. Seem to be in decent condition for offseason. I'd also work hard on your rear delts, there doesnt look to be much there in that photo.

[dremen]

I dont think he was calling anyone out personally. All he did was mention two names that may be a bit harsh on him thats all.

Since when does someone have to have an "advanced build" to use certain compounds? lol. You mean advanced like you Nate???

Dremen, I will say you dont look 235 to me, maybe the pics I dont know, maybe some different angles to really see. Seem to be in decent condition for offseason. I'd also work hard on your rear delts, there doesnt look to be much there in that photo.


Thanks man and your right i was'nt talking shit about nate and IW. Was just saying they would talk me down no matter what i posted. Point made i guess...lol

Again thanks JonyO ;)

[ironwill]

I dont think he was calling anyone out personally. All he did was mention two names that may be a bit harsh on him thats all.

Since when does someone have to have an "advanced build" to use certain compounds? lol. You mean advanced like you Nate???

Dremen, I will say you dont look 235 to me, maybe the pics I dont know, maybe some different angles to really see. Seem to be in decent condition for offseason. I'd also work hard on your rear delts, there doesnt look to be much there in that photo.

You miss lots of things JO...past history.........Maybe you need to delve into past history posts my friend. Pretty sure you have seen enough of my posts to know that isnt my typical way of chatting with most memebers...Good to see you sticking up for someone, just make sure its the right ones.............Just sayin.....;)

[countrychic]

I dont think he was calling anyone out personally. All he did was mention two names that may be a bit harsh on him thats all.


and by doing that starts a bunch of drama!!!

[countrychic]

Thanks man and your right i was'nt talking shit about nate and IW. Was just saying they would talk me down no matter what i posted. Point made i guess...lol

Again thanks JonyO ;)

Point is .....you need to stop mentioning there names so that this board doesn't carry on with such drama. Why even bother with it.......not sure what "point" it is you are trying to make.

[ironwill]

Now thats a great back in above avi....female, all natural......;)

[dremen]

and by doing that starts a bunch of drama!!!


Ya and your mans a total ****ing angel huh...lol;)

Jesus did i say anything BAD about IW and NATE...NO

Where have you been when he makes death threats...lol

Whatever drag this out all you want:popc2, i ment no harm.

[waderow]

Dremen

Do you do rowing movements and dead lifts? How about shrugs?

What routine of so

[dremen]

Dremen

Do you do rowing movements and dead lifts? How about shrugs?

What routine of so


Shrugs= 3plates per side now and i got my deads up to 455. Bent over rows= 2 plates per side, but i don't do cable rows. Im mostly compound lifts bro.

Routine, well warm up with light weights then i work my way up to max then finish with a lower weight. So 4-6 sets @8 reps. Some lifts are different depending on muscle group.

[countrychic]

Ya and your mans a total ****ing angel huh...lol;)

Jesus did i say anything BAD about IW and NATE...NO

Where have you been when he makes death threats...lol

Whatever drag this out all you want:popc2, i ment no harm.

Not draggin anything out, if anyone drags anything out is you....."grudges" I never said anyone was an angle....and by the way I read all the pm's between the two of you when all your pm's were going back and forth. You keep saying "Death threats" lol .... to funny as that wasn't the case.

I think your the one draggin this out dremen it's to bad you can't see that.

When you mention either one of there names you know exactly WHAT your doing, and as you can see I am not sticking up just for IW because he's my man as Nate is involved as well. As a member of the board it gets quite annoying.

Self reflection is somthing we should all look at. Remember perception is key :)

[dremen]

Point is .....you need to stop mentioning there names so that this board doesn't carry on with such drama. Why even bother with it.......not sure what "point" it is you are trying to make.

POINT is i ment no harm and no matter what your man will always pipe up and say shit about me so don't try and make me look like the bad guy here.

You see me wishing them death or telling em im going to get there ip adress and **** em up......NOPE.

[countrychic]

POINT is i ment no harm and no matter what your man will always pipe up and say shit about me so don't try and make me look like the bad guy here.

You see me wishing them death or telling em im going to get there ip adress and **** em up......NOPE.

again you don't stop.

Enjoy your training!

[CanadianIron]

Looks like you need to do more verticle pulling. How much do you widegrip pullup?

Shoulders could use some more size too. Nice thick back though.

[dremen]

Not draggin anything out, if anyone drags anything out is you....."grudges" I never said anyone was an angle....and by the way I read all the pm's between the two of you when all your pm's were going back and forth. You keep saying "Death threats" lol .... to funny as that wasn't the case.

I think your the one draggin this out dremen it's to bad you can't see that.

When you mention either one of there names you know exactly WHAT your doing, and as you can see I am not sticking up just for IW because he's my man as Nate is involved as well. As a member of the board it gets quite annoying.

Self reflection is somthing we should all look at. Remember perception is key :)


Whatever like your not going to be bias on this topic.

[CanadianIron]

Is it just me or are you trying really hard to be popular here?

Just ignore them dude.

[dremen]

Looks like you need to do more verticle pulling. How much do you widegrip pullup?

Shoulders could use some more size too. Nice thick back though.

Yes im still a no-body right now, but im giving it 110% bro.

I only use a widewrip for pulldowns and pullups, pulldowns i max the cable machine out at 220 or so and pullups i do 10-20 with bodyweight then tie on the 45lb plate and do about 6-8 sets @ 2-3 reps. Pullups are getting better.

I KILL myself with deads and squats. Back day i do 60-70 deads and leg day i do 80 reps for squats. Warm up=10, middle weight=20, heavy=30 then lighter for 20 front squats. Front squats=2 plates per side.

Strenght is WAYYYY up as is energy. It takes me a good hour killing myself to really burn out.

[69challenger]

dre....if you want opinions on your progress, just ask for them. There was no reason to even mention IW and Nate. That being said, stick to the topic of this thead or I will lock her down:)

[69challenger]

I KILL myself with deads and squats. Back day i do 60-70 deads and leg day i do 80 reps for squats. Warm up=10, middle weight=20, heavy=30 then lighter for 20 front squats. Front squats=2 plates per side.



That's alot of reps. Are you going heavy enough?

[dremen]

dre....if you want opinions on your progress, just ask for them. There was no reason to even mention IW and Nate. That being said, stick to the topic of this thead or I will lock her down:)


Ahhh so where are the mods when people tell me they hope i die a horrable death huh?

Lock it down if you want, just shows how unfair this site really is.

Perfectly fine to keep threads going where im the target though huh.

[countrychic]

Whatever like your not going to be bias on this topic.

point is that I was reading these pm's while you were frothing at the mouth and IW was laughing at the constant name calling and bashing that you were throwing at him and I do want to "clarify" that there was NO death threats made or threats of bodily harm. He was being sarcastic to your angry posts and said somthing along the line of meeting at Tims for Coffee because he figured you were possessed and said he would exercise your demons but that's as far as it went so quit LIEING...... quit trying to discredit someone who has been a long standing member of the board wether it's IW or anyone else on this board.

This will be my last post on this as I am not going to add to your drama. Sorry but I couldn't hold it in any longer.

[dremen]

That's alot of reps. Are you going heavy enough?

Yuppers, but i've read/heard alot of good things about heavy reps.

Strength is way up so size should follow right? If i keep eating enough.

[dremen]

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[dremen]

point is that I was reading these pm's while you were frothing at the mouth and IW was laughing at the constant name calling and bashing that you were throwing at him and I do want to "clarify" that there was NO death threats made or threats of bodily harm. He was being sarcastic to your angry posts and said somthing along the line of meeting at Tims for Coffee because he figured you were possessed and said he would exercise your demons but that's as far as it went so quit LIEING...... quit trying to discredit someone who has been a long standing member of the board wether it's IW or anyone else on this board.

This will be my last post on this as I am not going to add to your drama. Sorry but I couldn't hold it in any longer.



From the boss to me about you mans bullshit threats.

"Rereading the thread the most serious thing he said was "I know a guy that will get your IP address and I'll show up and your ****ing house". A death thread was not made but a threat none the less. It's an empty one though as I am the only one that can see IP addy's on CBB so there is no one but myself that can "get it" and I would never give it to anyone for stuff like that."

[countrychic]

Your full of shit, how about his pm's telling me hw could get my ip adress and come see me huh?

I think your man is erasing pms before you see em or your just bullshitting for him flatout.

Here we gooooooo:rofl

Ya I am such a bullshitter lol now I see how you get yourself into these issues you don't know when to quit!!

You really do have no clue about self reflection do you? your the who's full of shit actually!

But I know you want everyone to think your the good boy in all of this! IW didn't erase anything ......again there you go putting somthing out there that you have no truth about.

[waderow]

Yuppers, but i've read/heard alot of good things about heavy reps.

Strength is way up so size should follow right? If i keep eating enough.

the point she is trying to make, is that you are not going heavy enough, for if you were, you would not be getting those high numbers.

Or perhaps you are over-training.

Ever see the kid on curls or the decline bench for 2 hours every second day for 6 months, but he is still a skinny little ****er.

[countrychic]

From the boss to me about you mans bullshit threats.

"Rereading the thread the most serious thing he said was "I know a guy that will get your IP address and I'll show up and your ****ing house". A death thread was not made but a threat none the less. It's an empty one though as I am the only one that can see IP addy's on CBB so there is no one but myself that can "get it" and I would never give it to anyone for stuff like that."

oooohhhhhh so it isn't a death threat now........ lol get your story straight. Alot of pm's between the both of you and dremen I seen them all and you make yourself out to be a saint....lol!

Again all I was saying is stop with the battle.....you have all had words it's time to move on. You need to stop mentioning either one of them in your threads. They have left you alone as of lately but you keep dragg'n this shit back up again and LOOK what happens! Do you not understand that???

[dremen]

oooohhhhhh so it isn't a death threat now........ lol get your story straight. Alot of pm's between the both of you and dremen I seen them all!

Again all I was saying is stop with the battle.....you have all had words it's time to move on. You need to stop mentioning either one of them in your threads. They have left you alone as of lately but you keep dragg'n this shit back up again and LOOK what happens! Do you not understand that???

Cmon i was'nt talking smack i just said they would talk me down and guess what....lol I was right.

Get my ****ING story str8, EXCUME me?

You're just going to be one sided here no matter what so there is no point talking to you further.

[rated_rko]

looking thick dude good stuff

[dremen]

the point she is trying to make, is that you are not going heavy enough, for if you were, you would not be getting those high numbers.

Or perhaps you are over-training.

Ever see the kid on curls or the decline bench for 2 hours every second day for 6 months, but he is still a skinny little ****er.


Umm well some people say go super heavy and do small sets/reps and some say you need to kill legs to get em to grow so im still learning i guess.

For squats i warm up with 2 plates, then go to 4 then 6 for my max and i push out 3 sets of 10 or 2 sets of 15 then i give er shit on fron squats with 2 plates to burn the quads.

I don't even bother with leg extentions anymore, just compounds mostly.

Still learning though so maybe im doing everything wrong?

[countrychic]

[QUOTE=dremen;325868]Cmon i was'nt talking smack i just said they would talk me down and guess what....lol I was right.

/QUOTE]

ok so you knew if you called them out in the body of your message that they would respond ....... so you actually knew my mentioning there name you would start drama ...... I have made my POINT :):)!!!

[ironwill]

CCs first internet tiff.........:laugh

[Talo]

For squats i warm up with 2 plates, then go to 4 then 6 for my max and i push out 3 sets of 10 or 2 sets of 15 then i give er shit on fron squats with 2 plates to burn the quads.



are you saying that your doing 6 plates per side (585lbs) for reps of 10-15 ?

[waderow]

are you saying that your doing 6 plates per side (585lbs) for reps of 10-15 ?

lol

[Mr Ontario]

Lock her down or it? :)


dre....if you want opinions on your progress, just ask for them. There was no reason to even mention IW and Nate. That being said, stick to the topic of this thead or I will lock her down:)

[natenator]

Please don't lock this thread before I have a chance t reply. I'm driving right now and won't be able to reply for a few hours!

This thread mader me lol thanks for the entertainment folks :D

[dremen]

are you saying that your doing 6 plates per side (585lbs) for reps of 10-15 ?


Hell no bro. 3 plates per side. **** man years and years away from 12 plates....lol

[dremen]

lol


Sorry but i go ass to grass wade, back and front squats.

[waderow]

Sorry but i go ass to grass wade, back and front squats.

I dont want to offend you dremen, as you offend easily, but not with 585

[dremen]

Please don't lock this thread before I have a chance t reply. I'm driving right now and won't be able to reply for a few hours!

This thread mader me lol thanks for the entertainment folks :D


Good lord i can only imagine what your going to say...lol

Look nate i've said in many threads you not so bad and in this thread all i said is you would say i look like shit (as you have done so before) so it was not ment to be rude or an insult to you, more of a joke ok.

Sheesh you will take any chance to bash me up and down won't ya...lol

[dremen]

I dont want to offend you dremen, as you offend easily, but not with 585

I NEVER SAID I COULD DO 585.

Jesus wade please don't put words in my mouth i got enough problems on here already without people starting to think im saying im ****ing superman.

[marino]

Dremen first of all you are definately making gains so good on you. I am throwing you some green.

Secondly, I will just say this when the guys start giving you the gears tune them out. Then once the rant is over listen to what these guys are saying IW, Nate, Wade etc these guys have a plethora of knowledge and training let them help you and work with you rather than butting heads with them. Im not trying to say you're not on the right path but a little advice or perhaps a fresh perspective will do wonders in the gym and keep you growing. Keep up the good work.

[dremen]

Dremen first of all you are definately making gains so good on you. I am throwing you some green.

Secondly, I will just say this when the guys start giving you the gears tune them out. Then once the rant is over listen to what these guys are saying IW, Nate, Wade etc these guys have a plethora of knowledge and training let them help you and work with you rather than butting heads with them. Im not trying to say you're not on the right path but a little advice or perahps a fresh perspective will do wonders in the gym and keep you growing. Keep up the good work.

First off thank you kindly bro:)

Secondly Nate and IW don't offer me advice, they just tell me to die or say i will never ammount to anything.

[ironwill]

First off thank you kindly bro:)

Secondly Nate and IW don't offer me advice, they just tell me to die or say i will never ammount to anything.

I never ever said that, review your posts......Offer up an olive branch, i may take it....i actually hate internet fighting........I never ever have started with you...ever, just remember that, but i do give back what i get given to me, good and bad, and sometimes im just good at hurling insults when im insulted first, but definitely fighting is not my agenda when i come on here , i love, absolutely love helping fellows out......As ive been helped over and over....Marino, damn good post...green for you sir...

[ironwill]

Damn marino, i must spread around some more.....i shall get some to you..

[Mr Ontario]

don't get in a car accident now :)


Please don't lock this thread before I have a chance t reply. I'm driving right now and won't be able to reply for a few hours!

This thread mader me lol thanks for the entertainment folks :D

[69challenger]

Ahhh so where are the mods when people tell me they hope i die a horrable death huh?

Lock it down if you want, just shows how unfair this site really is.

Perfectly fine to keep threads going where im the target though huh.

Dre....the only reason Nate even responded to you is because you mentioned him by name.

BTW, looks like you are making progress. Do you have any pics of your legs?

[69challenger]

Lock her down or it? :)

:handsome

[dremen]

I never ever said that, review your posts......Offer up an olive branch, i may take it....i actually hate internet fighting........I never ever have started with you...ever, just remember that, but i do give back what i get given to me, good and bad, and sometimes im just good at hurling insults when im insulted first, but definitely fighting is not my agenda when i come on here , i love, absolutely love helping fellows out......As ive been helped over and over....Marino, damn good post...green for you sir...


As long as the olive branch don't end up being shoved up my ass....lol

Well what do you think of my squat routine then bro? Since i started just killing my legs with squats the side quad is growing outwards a lot faster.

Legs i only do squats and leg press for now. Like i said im mainly doing heavy compound movements to build good size.

You think 60 squats is to much?

[C-money]

<----------- anxiously awaiting Big Nates reply:popc2

Was gonna give you green Wade for that sweet pic, but i got to spread around some first:a+

[C-money]

As long as the olive branch don't end up being shoved up my ass....lol

Well what do you think of my squat routine then bro? Since i started just killing my legs with squats the side quad is growing outwards a lot faster.

Legs i only do squats and leg press for now. Like i said im mainly doing heavy compound movements to build good size.

You think 60 squats is to much?

For me personally, i think high volume on legs is a good thing.. at least thats what gives me better results.. but everyone is different

[ironwill]

Im not into anal play and men....lolol...

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10758&page=10

This was my last leg workout....I believe more-so now that i need more volume than i was doing in the past for my legs, this amnt seems to work well, i did a bit more volume for the previous 3 weeks, and my trainer knocked it down a wee bit for a week, then back up again next 3 weeks or so......I think one definitely needs to switch up the trng volume wise from time to time.....

Are you doing extra work for hammies also???Or do you go with legs high up on the legpress platform to get the hams involved....I think that 2 exercises is to slight for good leg work....IMO

[dremen]

Im not into anal play and men....lolol...

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10758&page=10

This was my last leg workout....I believe more-so now that i need more volume than i was doing in the past for my legs, this amnt seems to work well, i did a bit more volume for the previous 3 weeks, and my trainer knocked it down a wee bit for a week, then back up again next 3 weeks or so......I think one definitely needs to switch up the trng volume wise from time to time.....

Are you doing extra work for hammies also???Or do you go with legs high up on the legpress platform to get the hams involved....I think that 2 exercises is to slight for good leg work....IMO


Interesting. See im just trying to stick with the basics. I may only squat with 6 plates total, but i make my ass hit the floor each time i go down and i will do a shitload of em.

I see other guys go 4-5-6 plates per side, but there for sucks and it looks like there just trying to add more weight for bragging rights where as if i can't do the movement with proper form i lover the weight and try again.

From what i understand my method with help me grow more in the long run and will also help my strength gains as well correct?

Thanks IW.

[CanadianIron]

Post a video of your ass touching the floor doing a 315# squat for 15 reps and I'll eat a pair of my boxers. ****ING IMPOSSIBLE.

[dremen]

Post a video of your ass touching the floor doing a 315# squat for 15 reps and I'll eat a pair of my boxers. ****ING IMPOSSIBLE.

Figure of speech bro. It's not like my tounge can touch my elbow either....lol

All im saying is i go ALL the way down, ass 2 grass.

[ironwill]

Interesting. See im just trying to stick with the basics. I may only squat with 6 plates total, but i make my ass hit the floor each time i go down and i will do a shitload of em.

I see other guys go 4-5-6 plates per side, but there for sucks and it looks like there just trying to add more weight for bragging rights where as if i can't do the movement with proper form i lover the weight and try again.

From what i understand my method with help me grow more in the long run and will also help my strength gains as well correct?

Thanks IW.
I was for the longest time of the same mindset....My advice would be try out a few different types of routines, like mine, like yours etc....go for 4-6 weeks with each one and see what works best for you....But definitely dont get stuck with one man, you will lose time.....Id switch it up from time to time....

[CanadianIron]

Figure of speech bro. It's not like my tounge can touch my elbow either....lol

All im saying is i go ALL the way down, ass 2 grass.

Its a stupid expression... makes people sound like idiots.

[dremen]

Dre....the only reason Nate even responded to you is because you mentioned him by name.

BTW, looks like you are making progress. Do you have any pics of your legs?

Ok keep in mind im 6'2'' so i have another 6 monthsor so till they start to POP out or fill out as some say. Being tall makes filling out so much harder:(

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5261/70591702.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5308/47060228.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/762/77005233.jpg

[dremen]

Its a stupid expression... makes people sound like idiots.

Whatever man i got bigger things to worry about....lol

Besides im the resident idiot here anyway so who's gunna care;)

[O-Train]

We'll work on the legs. Ease up on the gear. Everyone stop flaming, it's getting really gay.

[dremen]

I was for the longest time of the same mindset....My advice would be try out a few different types of routines, like mine, like yours etc....go for 4-6 weeks with each one and see what works best for you....But definitely dont get stuck with one man, you will lose time.....Id switch it up from time to time....


I take a week off every 60 days and im thinking i will switch up my routine every 2 months as well.

Honestly i think i can bulk up another 30lbs or so in the next year with only minor routine changes as my frame will hold a lot more im told.

Live and learn though right.

[dremen]

We'll work on the legs. Ease up on the gear. Everyone stop flaming, it's getting really gay.


I cut my dose in half last week as bp was so high i was gettin a lil blood in my nose.

Aside from squats and leg press only other thing i can think of to add would be heavy lunges, but those really tear my knees up big time:(

[O-Train]

I cut my dose in half last week as bp was so high i was gettin a lil blood in my nose.

Aside from squats and leg press only other thing i can think of to add would be heavy lunges, but those really tear my knees up big time:(

Stiff leg deadlifts, good mornings etc... Your legs are underdeveloped, especially the hamstrings from what I can see in the pics. How often do you train? What does the workout look like? How long have you been training for? Maybe it's not what you're doing but how its being done. Form takes a while to figure out and even longer to master, especially without a good coach or trainer.

[natenator]

Alright. I am going to dumb this down for you because you can't seem to read/comprehend what I said. I never said you looked like shit. Go find where I said that. I said that the cycle you were running is usually something you see out of someone with a more advanced cycle. I am not the only one here to holds that opinion. And, it turns out we were right. (not hating - being honest).

You look good but you definitely do not look like someone whose running AAS nor like someone running the type of cycle you are (or rather were until you cut it down).

This is a marathon - not a sprint. Some guys including you would be smart to understand this. The fact you mention a few pages ago that "maybe what your doing is wrong" is a perfect example of that. What I mean by this is that you haven't taken the time to understand your body, nutrition and training as it relates to hypertrophy. Again, I am not saying you look like shit or don't have a decent build but it's quite apparent. This is WHY I always advocate against people starting AAS early on in the training career - it takes time to understand proper nutrition and training concepts as it relates to muscle growth. The idea of grab it and lift it makes for a loong learning curve.

If you want advice ask for it. If I thought you'd be receptive I'd happily give you some. Contrary to what some think on this board I am not all about hate and dissing people. I am here to help people but the outright stupidity of some people on this board is kinda hard to ignore somedays.

Next up, I've left you alone on the previous couple times you mentioned my name in a thrad for no reason. You've also done it to IW but it just so happens that he called you out on it lol. If you don't want to get our backs up then stop naming us in your posts.

You've also gone and created some hostile feeling in PdH. What's that tell you when HE gets annoyed by you?

I've probably left something out but I'm tired.

And, please stop refering to your height as a problem for gaining size. We get it. it's difficult. I am 6'3 and while I could go on and gon and gon about how the garden gnomes of the world hae it so much easier filling out their frame (C-money hahaha kiddin bro) I don't. These are the genetics I was handed so I just bust my ass. It's also the reason I end up with a lot of injuries - because I don't know any better than to push my dumb-ass self to the max every single time I hit the weights.

This is a marathon and not a sprint. Stop trying to get it all done in a month or 2 or 5. it takes YEARRRRRS of hard, ball busting work in the gym and at the table. You'll get there but it takes time.

[Talo]

Hell no bro. 3 plates per side. **** man years and years away from 12 plates....lol

Miss communication then because when I say 2,3,4,5 plates I'm talking per side.

[natenator]

Miss communication then because when I say 2,3,4,5 plates I'm talking per side.
me too lol

[dremen]

Stiff leg deadlifts, good mornings etc... Your legs are underdeveloped, especially the hamstrings from what I can see in the pics. How often do you train? What does the workout look like? How long have you been training for? Maybe it's not what you're doing but how its being done. Form takes a while to figure out and even longer to master, especially without a good coach or trainer.


Well yes im new, been back at it for 5-6 months now. How will good mornings work my legs? Is that not just a lower back movement?

I train 4 days a week bro and started cardio 5x per week last week, 45 minutes.

Well for leg day it looks like this:

Warm up squat-10-20 reps with low weight then go 4 plates total and do about 10-15 reps then 6 plates total and i push out 30 reps then lower weight and keep going till i've done 60 or so reps in total.

I go by feel not by paper.

For leg press i start low weight and work my way up to 12 plates total.

After 10 plates total my left knee starts to give out at will so going higher is very hard.

[natenator]

Good Mornings are an awesome hamtsring exercise.

Good mornings, glute-ham raises, stiff legged Dl's, lying leg curls - basics!

[kloan]

I just read the entire thread on the crapper... my legs fell asleep.

[dremen]

Alright. I am going to dumb this down for you because you can't seem to read/comprehend what I said. I never said you looked like shit. Go find where I said that. I said that the cycle you were running is usually something you see out of someone with a more advanced cycle. I am not the only one here to holds that opinion. And, it turns out we were right. (not hating - being honest).

You look good but you definitely do not look like someone whose running AAS nor like someone running the type of cycle you are (or rather were until you cut it down).

This is a marathon - not a sprint. Some guys including you would be smart to understand this. The fact you mention a few pages ago that "maybe what your doing is wrong" is a perfect example of that. What I mean by this is that you haven't taken the time to understand your body, nutrition and training as it relates to hypertrophy. Again, I am not saying you look like shit or don't have a decent build but it's quite apparent. This is WHY I always advocate against people starting AAS early on in the training career - it takes time to understand proper nutrition and training concepts as it relates to muscle growth. The idea of grab it and lift it makes for a loong learning curve.

If you want advice ask for it. If I thought you'd be receptive I'd happily give you some. Contrary to what some think on this board I am not all about hate and dissing people. I am here to help people but the outright stupidity of some people on this board is kinda hard to ignore somedays.

Next up, I've left you alone on the previous couple times you mentioned my name in a thrad for no reason. You've also done it to IW but it just so happens that he called you out on it lol. If you don't want to get our backs up then stop naming us in your posts.

You've also gone and created some hostile feeling in PdH. What's that tell you when HE gets annoyed by you?

I've probably left something out but I'm tired.

And, please stop refering to your height as a problem for gaining size. We get it. it's difficult. I am 6'3 and while I could go on and gon and gon about how the garden gnomes of the world hae it so much easier filling out their frame (C-money hahaha kiddin bro) I don't. These are the genetics I was handed so I just bust my ass. It's also the reason I end up with a lot of injuries - because I don't know any better than to push my dumb-ass self to the max every single time I hit the weights.

This is a marathon and not a sprint. Stop trying to get it all done in a month or 2 or 5. it takes YEARRRRRS of hard, ball busting work in the gym and at the table. You'll get there but it takes time.


See nate this is where you really crack me up bro....lol

Where do you get off trying to tell me it's a sprint not a race or i need to stop trying to get it done in a month or 2?

Where the **** have i ever said anything even close to wanting a QUICK FIX like all the noobies out there who want to bulk and cut at the same time?

Nate you just make me out to be some retard looking for overnight results and this really pisses me off bro cause it's the farthest from the truth.

Since june of this year i've bulked up damn near 55 pounds and i know it's a long road, but why is it you think just because you've been doing it longer im just some goof looking for a magic pill or fast overnight results.

You may infact mean well bro, but you just come off like a know it all and dude i don't know what else to say.

Seriously i would love it if we could chat and i could get good advice from you, but the fact you think im some ****ing retard looking for overnight results and the fact you seem to think im not a hard worker when it comes to bulking/lifting just makes me feel bad bro.

[Talo]

I will repeat what Nate said , Good Mornigs are an amazing exercise for your Hams. Lower back and glutes also.

[C-money]

Great post Nate! But that garden gnome thing was below the belt! :D


Well yes im new, been back at it for 5-6 months now. How will good mornings work my legs? Is that not just a lower back movement?

I train 4 days a week bro and started cardio 5x per week last week, 45 minutes.

Well for leg day it looks like this:

Warm up squat-10-20 reps with low weight then go 4 plates total and do about 10-15 reps then 6 plates total and i push out 30 reps then lower weight and keep going till i've done 60 or so reps in total.

I go by feel not by paper.

For leg press i start low weight and work my way up to 12 plates total.

After 10 plates total my left knee starts to give out at will so going higher is very hard.

Good mornings are a excellent exercises for hammies, on of my favs! Am i reading that right that youre saying your doing 3 plates a side ass to grass for 30 reps? If so thats pretty solid bud..

[natenator]

See nate this is where you really crack me up bro....lol

Where do you get off trying to tell me it's a sprint not a race or i need to stop trying to get it done in a month or 2?

Where the **** have i ever said anything even close to wanting a QUICK FIX like all the noobies out there who want to bulk and cut at the same time?

Nate you just make me out to be some retard looking for overnight results and this really pisses me off bro cause it's the farthest from the truth.

Since june of this year i've bulked up damn near 55 pounds and i know it's a long road, but why is it you think just because you've been doing it longer im just some goof looking for a magic pill or fast overnight results.

You may infact mean well bro, but you just come off like a know it all and dude i don't know what else to say.

Seriously i would love it if we could chat and i could get good advice from you, but the fact you think im some ****ing retard looking for overnight results and the fact you seem to think im not a hard worker when it comes to bulking/lifting just makes me feel bad bro.
see that right there is the problem. I didn't go off and make insults and call you names. I said my peace in a nice way but you failed to recognize the message of what I was attempting to say and went straight to hating on what I said.

Oh well. I tried people.

[dremen]

Nate just to be clear bro im not mad at ya i just wish you did'nt think so low of me bro.

[waderow]

See nate this is where you really crack me up bro....lol

Where do you get off trying to tell me it's a sprint not a race or i need to stop trying to get it done in a month or 2?

Where the **** have i ever said anything even close to wanting a QUICK FIX like all the noobies out there who want to bulk and cut at the same time?

Nate you just make me out to be some retard looking for overnight results and this really pisses me off bro cause it's the farthest from the truth.

Since june of this year i've bulked up damn near 55 pounds and i know it's a long road, but why is it you think just because you've been doing it longer im just some goof looking for a magic pill or fast overnight results.

You may infact mean well bro, but you just come off like a know it all and dude i don't know what else to say.

Seriously i would love it if we could chat and i could get good advice from you, but the fact you think im some ****ing retard looking for overnight results and the fact you seem to think im not a hard worker when it comes to bulking/lifting just makes me feel bad bro.

he gets it from your demeanor and cycles. I have that feeling too

[dremen]

Great post Nate! But that garden gnome thing was below the belt! :D



Good mornings are a excellent exercises for hammies, on of my favs! Am i reading that right that youre saying your doing 3 plates a side ass to grass for 30 reps? If so thats pretty solid bud..

Not 30 all at once. Some days it 3 sets @ 10 reps and some days it's 2 sets @ 15 reps.

30 all at once would make me puke and pass out man...lol

[dremen]

he gets it from your demeanor and cycles. I have that feeling too


Have what feeling?

[natenator]

Have what feeling?
that your a retard.

I wouldn't say retard though but you are a ****ing moron for suggesting to someone that tren and deca is perfectly acceptable. That other shit I just chalk up to being stubborn as I myself am stubborn as well :D

[Talo]

I see Your confusing more than just me with your language.

[Talo]

BTW . What do your legs measure out to be?

[C-money]

Not 30 all at once. Some days it 3 sets @ 10 reps and some days it's 2 sets @ 15 reps.

30 all at once would make me puke and pass out man...lol

Oh ok.. cause that would be pretty beastly.. Dre i also notice huge improvement in the legs once i did quads one day, and hammies on another instead of one big workout

[dremen]

BTW . What do your legs measure out to be?

Quads=26'' cold

Calves=17'' cold


What did you mean about my language?

[dremen]

that your a retard.

I wouldn't say retard though but you are a ****ing moron for suggesting to someone that tren and deca is perfectly acceptable. That other shit I just chalk up to being stubborn as I myself am stubborn as well :D


Hey that's your opinion bro and all good.

Yes we seem to be stubborn just a lil bit...ha ha

[Talo]

Quads=26'' cold

Calves=17'' cold


What did you mean about my language?

Your calves are bigger than your quads ?

I just meant the way you describe things like 6 plates or 30 reps @300.
No biggie.

[natenator]

Hey that's your opinion bro and all good.

Yes we seem to be stubborn just a lil bit...ha ha
it's not just my opinion man. The problem with what you wrote about the tren/deca thing is you actually believed it to be a good idea. I've made some stupid remarks regarding cycle advice like advising some ass clown (he was a true troll - hulkster.. look him up) to use 200mg of Dbol/day lol but I was joking and knew that wasn't a good idea. I said it because of the advice this guy was giving to others and figured a dose of his own medicine would be good.

The problem with my approach was that if newbie came on here and read that they might believe that to be a good idea.

so while I knew 200mg of dbol was wrong (and I was joking) you don't know that tren and deca is wrong.

I didn't call you a retard.

[dremen]

Your calves are bigger than your quads ?

I just meant the way you describe things like 6 plates or 30 reps @300.
No biggie.


How is 17 larger then 26?

[Talo]

Lol, I ****ed up. That's the dislecsia (sp?) kickin in :D

[dremen]

it's not just my opinion man. The problem with what you wrote about the tren/deca thing is you actually believed it to be a good idea. I've made some stupid remarks regarding cycle advice like advising some ass clown (he was a true troll - hulkster.. look him up) to use 200mg of Dbol/day lol but I was joking and knew that wasn't a good idea. I said it because of the advice this guy was giving to others and figured a dose of his own medicine would be good.

The problem with my approach was that if newbie came on here and read that they might believe that to be a good idea.

so while I knew 200mg of dbol was wrong (and I was joking) you don't know that tren and deca is wrong.

I didn't call you a retard.


I understand, but we all have different opinions on what can be stacked together. I don't follow the norm and im not affraid to try thing out. NOT saying it's for everyone, just what i like...lol

And i said the tren/deca thing to redz, cmon the dude was talking about a gram a week of tren so it's not like i was being totally serious to him.

Like i said i see YOUR point and i understand, but i don't need you to like what i run...HOWEVER lifting advice and diet advice i welcome Nate, just try not to think im such a baby in the gym. If you were to see my lifts with proper form you may have a different opinion of me?

You may think i have no respect for you, but i do and that's what get's me so pissed off.....lol

[69challenger]

Dre i also notice huge improvement in the legs once i did quads one day, and hammies on another instead of one big workout

I split my leg wo this way over the last year and had great results with it.

[dremen]

I split my leg wo this way over the last year and had great results with it.

Is that you in your avy?

[Sandwiches]

...

[69challenger]

Is that you in your avy?

yes

[gicantor]

^^^:ilu lol j/k;)

[dremen]

yes


Good lord woman:shock;)

Where can us boys find more pics of you?

Your hard work REALLY shows 69.

[GYMBRAT]

yes

simply awesome is the word I'm looking for! great work 69c :beer

[CanadianIron]

69challenger is a woman?!

With all the guys with girls for avatars, id just assume we're all dudes here... wtf.

[dremen]

69challenger is a woman?!

With all the guys with girls for avatars, id just assume we're all dudes here... wtf.

Your joking right?

[JacktheThriller]

no front shot bud, i dunno about bigger man set ur camera up in the same place and stand in the same spot and see if ur old picture can fit inside....bigger, keep at it and dont get so stressed out over online comments

[buildinthaskinnys]

Good delts, traps, and the back thickness is coming , keep working on the width and gotta bring up those wheels ASAP!!

[dremen]

no front shot bud, i dunno about bigger man set ur camera up in the same place and stand in the same spot and see if ur old picture can fit inside....bigger, keep at it and dont get so stressed out over online comments

Front shot.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3830/newfo.jpg

[LonelyBedouin]

Not bad mate, I would work on rear delts and your wheels. Other then that keep on pushin

[dremen]

Not bad mate, I would work on rear delts and your wheels. Other then that keep on pushin

Thanks man, will do:)

[gsxr750]

Big difference in your front shot.

[dremen]

Big difference in your front shot.

Thanks for your feedback:)

I hope i can really take the info i get from everyone here and put some good size on my girlish figure:D

[natenator]

Post up your diet and training and we'll offer some suggestions IF your willing to seriously consider the suggestions.

[fathead]

honest non biased view... you dont look 235 and you dont look like you use steroids. take it for what its worth

[dremen]

honest non biased view... you dont look 235 and you dont look like you use steroids. take it for what its worth

I don't see many people posting there hard bodies...lol

[CanadianIron]

If it makes you feel any better, you look like 235lbs to me.. but it doesnt look like you take anything.

[dremen]

If it makes you feel any better, you look like 235lbs to me.. but it doesnt look like you take anything.

Well i was planning on bulking up untill march, but im so tired of all this shit talk about me looking like i don't even use so i've decided to cut some fat and see what people say then.

Plenty of meat under this lil fat layer....lol

BTW thanks CI i do feel better now:flagC

[JacktheThriller]

your too impressionable, so people online dont think u look very strong, who gives a shit stick with ur plans to bulk then cut after

[trainharder]

I'm trying to provide some constructive criticism and I suspect you'll probably get defensive, but it appears like a lot of that 235lbs is carried around your waist. In the front shot, it's pretty obvious that your waist seems to be gaining a lot of fat. That's why some people don't think you look 235 because the rest of your body doesn't look that size..

If i was you, I'd be careful not to dirty bulk any further

[dremen]

I'm trying to provide some constructive criticism and I suspect you'll probably get defensive, but it appears like a lot of that 235lbs is carried around your waist. In the front shot, it's pretty obvious that your waist seems to be gaining a lot of fat. That's why some people don't think you look 235 because the rest of your body doesn't look that size..

If i was you, I'd be careful not to dirty bulk any further

Oh i hear ya bro, but the fat on me is from when i was bulking up natty.

Since i've started my cycle my bf has gone down a lot. It should'nt take me more then 6 weeks to cut down to the point where abs are showing real nice and then i can just jump back on the bulk wagon and try it a lil cleaner. Still leaves me plenty of time to bulk up till end of march.

A lil tummy/ass fat aint nothing to lose and if it will shut people up here then the cardio is worth it....lol;)

[Talo]

Have you ever done a proper cut (diet) before?

[dremen]

Have you ever done a proper cut (diet) before?


Ummm depends what u think "proper" means....lol

[Talo]

Maintaining muscle while dropping fat. Personally I think you should be able to maintain close to the same body weight while leaning out and getting that 6 pack you want . But it will take longer than ( or is it then , lol!! ) 6 weeks.

A good cut is a slow cut.

I would say continue with your " bulk " .

[physique]

Now thats a great back in above avi....female, all natural......;)

ya i would sleep with her. just once though as i would be killed the next day. lol

just joking IW

[dremen]

Maintaining muscle while dropping fat. Personally I think you should be able to maintain close to the same body weight while leaning out and getting that 6 pack you want . But it will take longer than ( or is it then , lol!! ) 6 weeks.

A good cut is a slow cut.

I would say continue with your " bulk " .


A good and proper cut will take me 3 months i've figured. I guess i would rather keep bulking, but honestly i'm just tired of the neg comments because i have bodyfat....lol

[Talo]

It's the negative comments that keep us motivated . That suck , but sometimes they're needed.

If you'd increase your cardio that stomach would come down , even with your calories being high.

[Ritch]

Ok, the pics of Dremen are ok, but not spectacular. I think we can all agree on that. But he`s gotten bigger and is making his goals a reality. But can people stop acting like guys that weigh 235 are a dime a dozen, because they`re not. Could he be better? Of course, it will come...

[dremen]

It's the negative comments that keep us motivated . That suck , but sometimes they're needed.

If you'd increase your cardio that stomach would come down , even with your calories being high.


Just started cardio the other week and fat is already a lot lower...lol

Gotta love tren:)

[dremen]

Ok, the pics of Dremen are ok, but not spectacular. I think we can all agree on that. But he`s gotten bigger and is making his goals a reality. But can people stop acting like guys that weigh 235 are a dime a dozen, because they`re not. Could he be better? Of course, it will come...

Again thanks Ritch.

I know i can be a bit over the top(maybe it's the tren)sometimes, but it's posts like this that calm me down and make me glad im here.

Will it come......YES;)

[AlladdinSane]

...but honestly i'm just tired of the neg comments because i have bodyfat....lol

Nobody cares that you're fat. We care that it almost looks like you lift and are using 2 grams a week.

Keep bulking. Please.


PS. This is not an attack. Just GFH already. You're tall and have wider hips = potential to be one of the big, strong (as it relates to 2 of the big 3 lifts) guys in the world.

PPS. Tuna and peaches will NOT help you do this. ;)

[faller]

A lil tummy

Dude, you can't be saying "tummy"...... Gut, stomach, abs are all good to go...Tummy :puff

[Sandwiches]

Nobody cares that you're fat. We care that it almost looks like you lift and are using 2 grams a week.

Keep bulking. Please.


PS. This is not an attack. Just GFH already. You're tall and have wider hips = potential to be one of the big, strong (as it relates to 2 of the big 3 lifts) guys in the world.

PPS. Tuna and peaches will NOT help you do this. ;)

lol

[dremen]

Dude, you can't be saying "tummy"...... Gut, stomach, abs are all good to go...Tummy :puff

Ok you got me on that faller....lol

I just use kid words at times cause of the gf's lil one.

You know how it goes bro:rofl

[Ritch]

Nobody cares that you're fat. We care that it almost looks like you lift and are using 2 grams a week.

Keep bulking. Please.


PS. This is not an attack. Just GFH already. You're tall and have wider hips = potential to be one of the big, strong (as it relates to 2 of the big 3 lifts) guys in the world.

PPS. Tuna and peaches will NOT help you do this. ;)

They key words were said here. The wide hips factor. You`re lucky in a sense that you don`t have naturally narrow shoulders. I have a friend who does and he`s annoying because he`s always talking about how much he weighs, but it dosen`t show worth a lick. He`s about 6foot 1 and even at 230 dosen`t look big to me. Then when he cuts it gets real bad. I just don`t have the heart to tell him as he`s so in love with his body...

My hips are not that wide, but for somebody who would want to compete, it would hold me back. But my shoulders are very decent. So it`s not that bad. But anyway, enough about me...

For you Dremen I`d say when you hit the 250lbs mark you will be undeniably big. You`re not that far away. Even with mid wide hips, but whatever, nobody`s perfect.

[dremen]

**** whats wrong with tuna and peaches when bulking?

Shit 3 cans of tuna downed in 30 seconds aint gunna help me bulk, pfffft whatever...lol

As if it's all i eat. Shit i was just interested in a quick way to down some protein(no homo jokes needed ok)rather then spend 10 minutes chewing food.

If your not at the point where you're experimenting with blending shit then i doubt your even eating close to the amount i am....lol

Lots of people talk shit, but i don't see any pics to back up the talk aside from the guys who be in there avatar;)

FYI im under a gram a week now, have been a while now.

[Ritch]

It takes me 10 minutes to eat 1 can of tuna. How do you eat them so fast. Man tuna`s disgusting...

[z83]

cottage cheese + tuna...om nom nom

[Ritch]

cottage cheese + tuna...om nom nom

That`s even more disgusting. But a great bodybuilding meal. **** I`m picky, don`t like most food, don`t like meaty vagina`s...

[faller]

cottage cheese + tuna...om nom nom

Thats just discusting!! And to prove this i'm going to try this tomorrow :beer

[Ritch]

Thats just discusting!! And to prove this i'm going to try this tomorrow :beer

And to prove eating poop is disgusting you should try that as well. :laugh

[z83]

I'll admit eating tuna isn't easy this weak. I stopped EQ and feel like shit/can't eat since a few days. I'm downing a shake with PB and a tuna can + cottage ATM. Been at it for over 15minutes. You know...when you chew for a minute and can't get it down :help

[z83]

Thats just discusting!! And to prove this i'm going to try this tomorrow :beer

Have a mouthful of each, do not mix them

[faller]

And to prove eating poop is disgusting you should try that as well. :laugh

Trust me, it's discusting :shock.................1983, house party, got very, very, very drunk and passed out with a house full of buddies with a great sense of humour.... True story.

[faller]

Have a mouthful of each, do not mix them

Lol, thanks for the heads up, i was just going to throw it all in a bowl.

[kloan]

I eat canned tuna this way as well... put it in a bowl, but dont mix them up... keep them separate, and take a bite of each... I find it makes it a little bit easier to eat the tuna.

[O-Train]

What does it take to have someone removed from the site? At least bring back negative rep. I think it was a good deterrent for people to not shoot off at the mouth.

Dremen, if you're wondering. AlladinSane took a shit bigger than you this morning...and you will now be on the ignore list. Maybe find a more suitable site like underthebridge.com


**** whats wrong with tuna and peaches when bulking?

Shit 3 cans of tuna downed in 30 seconds aint gunna help me bulk, pfffft whatever...lol

As if it's all i eat. Shit i was just interested in a quick way to down some protein(no homo jokes needed ok)rather then spend 10 minutes chewing food.

If your not at the point where you're experimenting with blending shit then i doubt your even eating close to the amount i am....lol

Lots of people talk shit, but i don't see any pics to back up the talk aside from the guys who be in there avatar;)

FYI im under a gram a week now, have been a while now.

[dremen]

What does it take to have someone removed from the site? At least bring back negative rep. I think it was a good deterrent for people to not shoot off at the mouth.

Dremen, if you're wondering. AlladinSane took a shit bigger than you this morning...and you will now be on the ignore list. Maybe find a more suitable site like underthebridge.com


How about u suck my balls fag-train;)

[mersanary]

Dremen

Maybe you posted this in another thread but i just read through all of this one... You said you are under a gram a week now. What does your revamped cycle look like?

I'd say keep bulking food wise. Don't worry about dropping your body fat levels so you can look bigger in a picture for an internet forum. Keep the cardio in too just for general health reasons, a more active metabolism, and increased hunger.

[ironwill]

ya i would sleep with her. just once though as i would be killed the next day. lol

just joking IW

Why i oughta.....lolol.....:)

[BDH]

How about u suck my balls fag-train;)Wow! I was just about to come in here and defend you...

[natenator]

Wow! I was just about to come in here and defend you...
I'm curious how you would have defended him? ;)

[Talo]

How old are you, Dre ?

[O-Train]

Wow! I was just about to come in here and defend you...

That makes me sad. I'm rarely wrong about people :troll

[dremen]

That makes me sad. I'm rarely wrong about people :troll

It's not like you come in here and talked in a nice manner. All you did was say im smaller then a turd so take your bullshit somewhere else and quit acting like you came in here acting like and adult.....lol

Honestly there are so many people here who are FLAT OUT hypocrites.

[natenator]

It's not like you come in here and talked in a nice manner. All you did was say im smaller then a turd so take your bullshit somewhere else and quit acting like you came in here acting like and adult.....lol

Honestly there are so many people here who are FLAT OUT hypocrites.
What are we hypocritical about?

[faller]

cottage cheese + tuna...om nom nom

Eating it as i write... Not bad! A quick and easy 50 gr. of protein :)

[buildinthaskinnys]

How about u suck my balls fag-train;)

I think dremen, what alladinsane was getting at was that the combination of canned peach slices and tuna was kind of silly if you are trying to bulk, why not three cans of tuna, some brown rice and maybe a couple of aspargus spears? This would be more conducive to your bulking efforts, I think that is what he was getting at and o-train took offense to your cavelier remark, you need to be more non-chalant towards peoples remarks and be more receptive my friend. Not everything is an attack. Lots of learning to be had here alot of good peeps have chimed in on your thread, with advice not attacks.

[kg2105]

you're huge.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Won't get involved in this as it's dremen's thread and he has issues with nate and iw so you can dish it out and receive in return.

But do not take this fight into other posters threads or I will get involved.

As for the pics, there is an improvement.

[dremen]

I think dremen, what alladinsane was getting at was that the combination of canned peach slices and tuna was kind of silly if you are trying to bulk, why not three cans of tuna, some brown rice and maybe a couple of aspargus spears? This would be more conducive to your bulking efforts, I think that is what he was getting at and o-train took offense to your cavelier remark, you need to be more non-chalant towards peoples remarks and be more receptive my friend. Not everything is an attack. Lots of learning to be had here alot of good peeps have chimed in on your thread, with advice not attacks.

I get a lot of flack even when im being sweet so why not just be a dick as it seems to work for a lot of other guys here....lol

And how is 3 cans of tuna and some sliced peaches a bad thing when bulking? Guys put bananas in there shakes all the time....shakes that are mostly whey powder so i do a shake that's all meat protein and i get flack??? It just don't make sense to me?

Like i said i was just looking for a quick way to down my protein here and there as the jaw gets a lil sore from all the chewing ya know what im talking about?

Other guys here mention it takes them 10 minutes to eat a tuna sandwich where i downed 60+ grams of meat protein in like 30 seconds so i see no problem with that.

Anywho thanks for taking the time to post what u did bro and trust me just because i get a lil on edge don't mean im not taking in as much advice as i can;)

[Talo]

What's the advantage in getting your so called meal in quicker ?

[Scaffer]

Around,big back but its missing some 'wow' aspect.You have any other pics?

[CanadianIron]

He doesnt need more pictures, he needs more time.

People need to stop posting pictures so often, wait 6 months between postings. If you have to ask if you look bigger/better.... you dont.

[dremen]

What's the advantage in getting your so called meal in quicker ?

Well being in a rush i guess, but LIKE I SAID 2X NOW when your jaw hurts is a good way to skip the chewing....lol

Shit my jaw cracks now when i chew:p

[dremen]

He doesnt need more pictures, he needs more time.

People need to stop posting pictures so often, wait 6 months between postings. If you have to ask if you look bigger/better.... you dont.

Point taken;)

[wolverine]

Dremen, You have a great avitar but I'm sorry to report that I have wasted part of my life reading this thread and for that I feel awful, god gave you 2 ears and 1 mouth, that means you should listen more and talk less and you will find that through life you will have friends and not enemies, I wish you the best of luck in your quest for muscle and will try not to subscribe to your verbal vomit.

Wolvy

P.S. it looks that you have managed to piss off some very good people here which I haven't seen in the past, try not to do it anymore ..... ok?