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MikeyFXD35
03-12-2009, 08:03 PM
I second time....I guess it helps when you know the system.
Mountie Monty Robinson left crash scene then drank alcohol as Orion Hutchinson lay dying
Robinson most senior of four RCMP officers involved in Tasering death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport in 2007
By Katie Mercer, The Province December 3, 2009
While Orion Hutchinson lay dying, Monty Robinson raced home and had two stiff drinks, but that’s not enough to penalize him with a stronger charge.
Simon Fraser University criminologist David MacAlister raised questions Wednesday as to why Cpl. Benjamin “Monty” Robinson was not charged under Sec. 252 of the criminal code — failure to stop at the scene of an accident causing death.
The offence carries a maximum penalty of life in prison — the same as impaired driving causing death.
“It sounded like this charge seems to most closely fit the facts of the case,” MacAlister said.
“He did stop and give his driver’s license but the section also requires you to provide assistance and based on what I’ve heard, there isn’t any indication he did that.”
Delta police recommended charges of impaired driving causing death be laid against Cpl. Benjamin “Monty” Robinson for the death of Orion Hutchinson, 21.
However, the attorney-general’s office charged the Mountie Tuesday with the lesser charge of obstruction of justice for his alleged actions after the collision, citing lack of evidence.
The obstruction charge, which carries no minimum sentence, has a maximum of 10 years.
Neil MacKenzie, Criminal Justice Branch spokesman, said there was not enough evidence to support impaired-driving charges nor failure to stop at the scene of an accident.
“That was among the charges that the branch considered . . . it did not meet our charge assessment standard,” Mackenzie said, declining to elaborate further.
Under Sec. 252 of the criminal code, a failure to stop includes an accident where the driver fails to stop to escape civil or criminal liability, or provide his name and address, as well as where a person has been injured and appears to require assistance and none is offered.
While the Crown is not commenting on the case as it is before the courts, MacAlister pondered whether the obstruction of justice charge stems from Robinson’s knowledge of the law.
“By virtue of the fact that he knew the law and he knew what the police had to do to put a case together, for him to make the decision to go home have a couple drinks, he may have known that could interfere with their ability to get a breathalyzer test,” MacAlister said.
“I think it’s that conduct he engaged in after the accident that constituted the obstruction.
“It’s a very serious incident and it calls into question his integrity and how honesty and forthright he is.”
On Oct. 25, 2008, Robinson’s Jeep crashed into Hutchinson’s motorcycle at a Tsawwassen intersection. Robinson, who was off-duty at the time, identified himself to witnesses, then left the scene with his two kids, without checking on the dying Hutchinson.
In March, in a bid to have his driving ban overturned, Robinson told a B.C. Supreme Court that he had two shots of vodka at home before returning to the scene of the accident, where he then failed a breathalyzer test.
The court rejected his version of events.
Robinson is the most senior of four Mounties involved in the Tasering death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport in 2007. The Crown has decided not to lay any charges.
Robinson is scheduled to appear in Surrey Provincial Court on Dec. 8.
© Copyright (c) The Province
titan8t1
03-12-2009, 08:15 PM
This guys a ****ing joke, I was listening to this on Cknw today. Left the scene and let that poor kid die what a bastard.
gicantor
03-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Is it sad. Yes. Is the cop smart.Yes He covered his ass. Blame your justice system for letting him get away with it.
grader
03-12-2009, 08:18 PM
typical cop, what a ****ing coward, i hope one of these gang members puts a bullet in his head.
MikeyFXD35
03-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Is it sad. Yes. Is the cop smart.Yes He covered his ass. Blame your justice system for letting him get away with it.
Come on, it that was you or I our ass would be in jail right now. I watched a study years ago about drinking an driving and 2 drinks in a short period of time will not put a man over...The guy blow over so that means he was driving around impaired with his kids in the car. He know by doing it he would cause doubt.
MikeyFXD35
03-12-2009, 08:30 PM
typical cop, what a ****ing coward, i hope one of these gang members puts a bullet in his head.
Its this kind of shit that is turning people against LE. They get away with crap that the rest of us can`t. They protect their own at the cost of the public that they are suppose to be serving.
JifeLacket
03-12-2009, 08:32 PM
What the **** is wrong with that guy!!!
MikeyFXD35
03-12-2009, 08:44 PM
He's probably so screwed up because he knows they were lying at the Braidwood Inquiry and they killed a man using excessive force and it only a matter of time before the truth comes out. And by the way, it cost tax payers more than half a million dollars to defend these guys at the inquiry.
gicantor
03-12-2009, 08:48 PM
Come on, it that was you or I our ass would be in jail right now.
I'm not defending him by any means. But it's hard to say what would happen if it was you or me. A guy I worked with had a similar situation and got off. No one died though.
MikeyFXD35
03-12-2009, 09:05 PM
The city cops recommended charges but the attorney-general’s office said no??? You can argue the impaired charge but not the failure to stop at the scene of an accident causing death. He left the scene.
gicantor
03-12-2009, 09:08 PM
The city cops recommended charges but the attorney-general’s office said no??? You can argue the impaired charge but not the failure to stop at the scene of an accident causing death. He left the scene.
True. Thats what I meant.
But the article said he gave his name, and they couldn't prove he was leaving the scene, because he did give his name.
It's smart, no doubt. But that's something that's going to be on his conscience for the rest of his life. Would bother most people, but maybe not him. I don't think I could lie like that knowing the person had family, what they have to deal with , watch me in court as I lie my way out of it and their son/daughter is dead.
champcar99
03-12-2009, 09:55 PM
****ING PIGS MAKE ME SICK....GRRRRRRRRRR....
waderow
03-12-2009, 09:58 PM
****ING PIGS MAKE ME SICK....GRRRRRRRRRR....
what about the tens of thousands of other impaired drivers. ****, probably hundreds of thousands.
champcar99
03-12-2009, 10:22 PM
wade for one he's a ****ing cop...HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD...this shouldn't of happened if he is a COP period..everthing the spinless **** did he did too save his ass and not the victim..that alone should get him fired and no time off til lthe investigation is over with pay bullshit ..NO ****ING EXCUSES..NONE..ZERO..**** ALL...NOW THIS **** GETS TOO KEEP HIS PENSION, HIS ****ING JOB...DOES THIS SEEM FAIR..
Once a cop does something like that, the police force should throw him to the civillians and detach completely from him until the charges are dealt with. When they get behind these 3rd rate cops, it just tarnished the entire police force's image even more.
that dude shouldnt have gotten in the officers way like that....serves him right.... ;)
champcar99
03-12-2009, 10:30 PM
Once a cop does something like that, the police force should throw him to the civillians to be ripped apart and punished as a civillian.
When they get behind these wayward cops, it just tarnished the entire police force's image even more.
have all the pigs pensions handed over too the family...
champcar99
03-12-2009, 10:30 PM
that dude shouldnt have gotten in the officers way like that....serves him right.... ;)
thanks for the laugh..lol..
this guy worked the system.....karma will get him tho....
Cartwright Cartwright
03-12-2009, 10:42 PM
This is going to happen often now. Keep a bottle in your vehicle, if you get in an accident and you're drunk, jump out with your bottle, start yelling how your stressed out now and you need a drink and start slamming it in front of the witnesses. How can they prove you were drunk before the accident. That's a scary precedent to be setting.
champcar99
03-12-2009, 10:46 PM
I was listening to the radio about this, they are planning on making a law to prevent this kind of shit happening again....
ironwill
03-12-2009, 10:47 PM
If a kid didnt die, say he was all right, maybe a bit hurt, but not life threatening and had a cell phone.....Do you think all the other stuff would be ok?? Like getting home and slamming a couple of straight whiskeys...waiting for the police to come and get him???
massmachine
03-12-2009, 11:30 PM
How can they prove you were drunk before the accident. That's a scary precedent to be setting.
Toxicologist. There's a science behind the human body and how it metabolizes alcohol...
tiramisu
03-12-2009, 11:31 PM
He may get away with the felony but he will certainly lose the civil suit and his job.
He should go to jail but may not.
Gilmour
03-12-2009, 11:40 PM
This guy is a turd. There was an OPP cop who used to work around Calabogie, Ontario who hit and killed a pedestrian off duty while he was allegedly drinking and he left the scene. He reported hitting a deer a few hours later, like you wouldn't stop if you hit a deer, but he was charged with whatever. He ended up getting off but quit the OPP, or was forced out. Then he went to work for Brinks in Sudbury. A few years later he got really ****ed up in an accident while in the front seat of a Brinks truck. Head was caved in by the glass. Now he is a vegetable. Moral of the story is that everyone pays for it somehow. This turd will in some way shape or form.
CanadianIron
04-12-2009, 01:34 AM
From what I can see, this guy has killed 2 innocent people in the last few years and is "getting away with it", because hes a cop... although I generally respect their authority. I hope this guy gets what he deserves.. hes a sick ass hole. No respect for human life and no honor to himself, a selfish ****... shit, the guy has first aid training and refused to go see if the kid was ok? I hope he burns.
Thorgrim
04-12-2009, 02:55 AM
The double standards and gang mentality are one of the reasons I am starting to dislike the police. I used to have a certain respect for them but lately they have really been getting out of hand.
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 12:29 PM
The double standards and gang mentality are one of the reasons I am starting to dislike the police. I used to have a certain respect for them but lately they have really been getting out of hand.
Especially the RCMP who free they are above the law.
http://www.rcmpwatch.com/
waderow
04-12-2009, 12:34 PM
Especially the RCMP who free they are above the law.
http://www.rcmpwatch.com/
if you read that website, I am sure you will see that they are not above the law.
This country probably has the most professional, non-corrupt police forces in the world.
Go to moscow and go mouth off the cops like a drunken Bam... See what happens. Try that shit anywhere.... In Canada, the police do a pretty good job. My only grips is the mother****ers being used as tax collectors enforcing laws with fines, that are created to create conflict with the citizens.
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 12:37 PM
And to top it off, since it happen he has been suspended "WITH" pay. not a bad deal
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 12:41 PM
if you read that website, I am sure you will see that they are not above the law.
This country probably has the most professional, non-corrupt police forces in the world.
Go to moscow and go mouth off the cops like a drunken Bam... See what happens. Try that shit anywhere.... In Canada, the police do a pretty good job. My only grips is the mother****ers being used as tax collectors enforcing laws with fines, that are created to create conflict with the citizens.
Your right...compaired to Mexico and Columbia these guys are angels...we should be promoting Cpl Robinson for not shooting the witnesses.
Go to moscow and go mouth off the cops like a drunken Bam... See what happens.
Now I'm a drunk?
You'd defend any cop even if he ****ed a baby in broad daylight, center ice at a leafs game.
waderow
04-12-2009, 01:05 PM
Now I'm a drunk?
You'd defend any cop even if he ****ed a baby in broad daylight, center ice at a leafs game.
there are bad cops, but not many here in canada. By bad cops, I mean criminals.
The odd cop who has had it with some lippy little ****ing punk, who smacks him around for an attitude adjustment.... I see nothing wrong with. They are doing what your Dad (if you had one) should have done long ago.
trainharder
04-12-2009, 01:07 PM
Now I'm a drunk?
You'd defend any cop even if he ****ed a baby in broad daylight, center ice at a leafs game.
Well the way the Leafs have played so far, they do pretty much get ****ed on the ice every game...
waderow
04-12-2009, 01:08 PM
Your right...compaired to Mexico and Columbia these guys are angels...we should be promoting Cpl Robinson for not shooting the witnesses.
you realize how many tens of thousands of cops there are in Canada, and you realize that the nature of their job slowly eats away at them....shift work.....dealing with **** tards like BAM all day......low pay........danger........diseased ****ing losers of society spitting at you every day............that there may be some men who lose track of their life?
they are men, just like you and I. not machines
they do a pretty good job sorting out losers lives here in canada
you realize how many tens of thousands of cops there are in Canada, and you realize that the nature of their job slowly eats away at them....shift work.....dealing with **** tards like BAM all day......low pay........danger........diseased ****ing losers of society spitting at you every day............that there may be some men who lose track of their life?
they are men, just like you and I. not machines
they do a pretty good job sorting out losers lives here in canada
Wow man.. You have to be a cop or related to one to have such strong blind support for them.
waderow
04-12-2009, 03:06 PM
Wow man.. You have to be a cop or related to one to have such strong blind support for them.
nope... just have a high IQ
tums1000
04-12-2009, 03:31 PM
ahh you have a good point all the shit they have to go thru on a daily basis you have to have respect for them even if you dont agree with they way they act or the things they do...and for the most part cops arnt usually dicks unless you mouth off to them ...
Cartwright Cartwright
04-12-2009, 03:41 PM
Toxicologist. There's a science behind the human body and how it metabolizes alcohol...
But not a perfect science. Getting this down to the minute is impossible taking everything into consideration. I know a bonehead who did just this and got off on the charges.Fawk a good lawyer these days can get you off pretty much anything. Sad.
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 03:48 PM
The odd cop who has had it with some lippy little ****ing punk, who smacks him around for an attitude adjustment.... I see nothing wrong with. They are doing what your Dad (if you had one) should have done long ago.
Thats not OK..that leads to corruption. If that same little punk mouth you off and you smack him around the police would be on his side not yours. This I know too well. They will charge you not him. You committed the crime, you will be told that you should have just walked away.
Police...ALL POLICE can go a little over board when arresting some drunk or jacked up kid. They do it because they can get away with it unless someone catches it on camera. You hit a cop your ****ed, he hits you, nothing you can do.
Being a cop is something they choose, if they cant lead the life of a role model then they shouldn't be in the job. My drivers license is need for my job so I don't drink and drive. Why do cops drink and drive.....because if they hit a roadblock they just flash their badge or as I have heard them refer to it as "get out of jail free card" and of they go. Its not right, that all I'm saying.
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 04:16 PM
Once a cop does something like that, the police force should throw him to the civillians and detach completely from him until the charges are dealt with. When they get behind these 3rd rate cops, it just tarnished the entire police force's image even more.
Holy ****!! Is this the new and improved bam? I expected something in the lines of hangin the guy from a tree and paying immigrants to beat him like a pinata, Good Post.
waderow
04-12-2009, 04:25 PM
Thats not OK..that leads to corruption. If that same little punk mouth you off and you smack him around the police would be on his side not yours. This I know too well. They will charge you not him. You committed the crime, you will be told that you should have just walked away.
Police...ALL POLICE can go a little over board when arresting some drunk or jacked up kid. They do it because they can get away with it unless someone catches it on camera. You hit a cop your ****ed, he hits you, nothing you can do.
Being a cop is something they choose, if they cant lead the life of a role model then they shouldn't be in the job. My drivers license is need for my job so I don't drink and drive. Why do cops drink and drive.....because if they hit a roadblock they just flash their badge or as I have heard them refer to it as "get out of jail free card" and of they go. Its not right, that all I'm saying.
I guess it doesnt bother me because I am smart enough to never end up on the receiving end
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 04:33 PM
nope... just have a high IQ
Unlike the cops that you adore so much :laugh
Seriously though, of course the amount of corruption that is shown in positions of authority tends to be higher in smaller lesser developed countries, where the pay is low, but as a whole the canadian judicial system and enforcement part of it is more corrupt when compared to some other countries of equal wealth, and of some of less wealth. In the last 20 years things have gotten alot worse, as recruitment has slumped and they have not been able to optain more of the quality people they are looking for. My negative look at law enforcement today was in fact because of a first hand experience with the corruption in the rcmp and I would bet it is alot worse than most people would believe.
nope... just have a high IQ
Can you post some pictures of this I.Q. you speak of?
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 04:38 PM
if you read that website, I am sure you will see that they are not above the law.
This country probably has the most professional, non-corrupt police forces in the world.
Go to moscow and go mouth off the cops like a drunken Bam... See what happens. Try that shit anywhere.... In Canada, the police do a pretty good job. My only grips is the mother****ers being used as tax collectors enforcing laws with fines, that are created to create conflict with the citizens.
Wade, compare canada to russia where the government is ran by the mafia, yah most countries law enforcement would look pretty good when compared to russia. Its worse than mexico there, for **** sakes..
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 04:47 PM
Heres a good one, My old boss, had his own shop working on cars and we would work on cop cars occasionally, anyway one day he tells me that he worked late on one of their units and they were kind enough to give him a ride home, on their way there the cop pointed to a house that had a bunch of vehicles parked in front of it and he turns to my boss and says "looks like the crack house is full tonight" I would feel like a piece of shit giving somebody a seatbelt ticket while knowing about all that other shit.
waderow
04-12-2009, 05:00 PM
More quality posts Wade, compare canada to russia where the government is ran by the mafia, yah most countries law enforcement would look pretty good when compared to russia. Its worse than mexico there, for **** sakes..
compare our LE to any country on earth, and we are at or near the top in professionalism and conduct,
and go **** yourself with that quality post bullshit. I dont think I have ever seen any green worthy shit come from you...unless "my shoulders dont get sore...whats wrong?" counts
waderow
04-12-2009, 05:00 PM
Heres a good one, My old boss, had his own shop working on cars and we would work on cop cars occasionally, anyway one day he tells me that he worked late on one of their units and they were kind enough to give him a ride home, on their way there the cop pointed to a house that had a bunch of vehicles parked in front of it and he turns to my boss and says "looks like the crack house is full tonight" I would feel like a piece of shit giving somebody a seatbelt ticket while knowing about all that other shit.
vote conservative then if it pains you so much.
waderow
04-12-2009, 05:02 PM
Unlike the cops that you adore so much :laugh
Seriously though, of course the amount of corruption that is shown in positions of authority tends to be higher in smaller lesser developed countries, where the pay is low, but as a whole the canadian judicial system and enforcement part of it is more corrupt when compared to some other countries of equal wealth, and of some of less wealth. In the last 20 years things have gotten alot worse, as recruitment has slumped and they have not been able to optain more of the quality people they are looking for. My negative look at law enforcement today was in fact because of a first hand experience with the corruption in the rcmp and I would bet it is alot worse than most people would believe.
canadian police train most countries police forces when it comes to community policing. You know nothing about this
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 05:09 PM
compare our LE to any country on earth, and we are at or near the top in professionalism and conduct,
and go **** yourself with that quality post bullshit. I dont think I have ever seen any green worthy shit come from you...unless "my shoulders dont get sore...whats wrong?" counts
Picture of me caring > .............
Hey I didnt mean to offend you really, I edited and re-edited that post to try and make sure that I didnt come off like a dick, my first drafts would always insult even the hardest skinned people. Gee your attack button must be close at hand.......
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 05:13 PM
Heres a good one, My old boss, had his own shop working on cars and we would work on cop cars occasionally, anyway one day he tells me that he worked late on one of their units and they were kind enough to give him a ride home, on their way there the cop pointed to a house that had a bunch of vehicles parked in front of it and he turns to my boss and says "looks like the crack house is full tonight" I would feel like a piece of shit giving somebody a seatbelt ticket while knowing about all that other shit.
Shit yeah they know were all the crack houses are, but its a lot of work to bust one were they could give out like 500 seatbelt tickets. Actually that I don't blame the cops for, I blame the judges who let the same people walk time and time again. What I dont like about the cops is they pick the easy targets. A regular guy buying some AAS for personal use. Someone they know they can intimidate and threaten. They family guy picking up a prostitute, going after real criminals is a different game. Those guys know the system and don't take any shit as they have nothing to loss. Thats dangerous work and they didnt sign up for that...LOL
Respect is something earned. You don't get it by putting on a badge.
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 05:20 PM
canadian police train most countries police forces when it comes to community policing. You know nothing about this
Why dont you inform me then? Not perfect here Wade but I have seen first hand whats going on, So help me believe in a less than perfect system. And no I wont vote conservative. You cant make me.
canadian police train most countries police forces when it comes to community policing. You know nothing about this
Whats to teach?
"Here is your tazer, here is your gun.. here is your billyclub..
"oh.. and here is your bullet proof vest because everyone hates you"
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 05:31 PM
Whats to teach?
"Here is your tazer, here is your gun.. here is your billyclub..
"oh.. and here is your bullet proof vest because everyone hates you"
My buddys girlfriend ****ed off on him when they were fighting, it was the first time that ever happened, and he couldnt reach her for a day on her cellphone he couldnt think of where she would go because she wasnt from the city, and he freaked so he called the cab company "we cant relay any information sir, confidentiality reasons" "only by instruccion by law enforcement can we disclose that information" he phones the cops, they come to the door ask him a few questions, then ask him if she is on crack, he says no she doesent take drugs, then upon leaving they say "we will check all the crack houses to see if she is there", odd, I dont recall that he ever mentioned her using crack. My friend about 30 years of age, respectable mild mannered person and his gf as well , lives in a nice house and has a good job, not a trouble maker, so theres an example of more "proffessionalism". He felt very disrespected but didnt say anything and said he just needed their resources and that was that so you have to be nice.
waderow
04-12-2009, 05:42 PM
Why dont you inform me then? Not perfect here Wade but I have seen first hand whats going on, So help me believe in a less than perfect system. And no I wont vote conservative. You cant make me.
what would you define as a perfect system?
one where there is no crime? one where all criminals are caught swiftly and rehabilitated? How about instead of rehabilitate, they are punished?
One where all the police are happy and cheerful, and help the old ladies cross the street and rescue the kitten from the tree? How about one where there is summary execution? That way there is no need for jails.
There is no perfect system, and if it is, it is not perfect for everyone.
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One needs a justice system that is bound by a charter of human rights including Habeas corpus and presumption of innocence.
CHECK
One needs a justice system that offers hope to criminals incarcerated that has a balance between punishment and rehabilitation
ummmm CHECK but we are more on the side of rehab here and less on punishment. Personally, criminals could rot in a 5x5 cell for all I care (see not perfect for everyone)
One needs to be able to hold police accountable for transgressions against the charter
CHECK
What is so wrong here? why dont you explain to me what is so horrible about our justice system, except that it is too weak (if you ask me)
edit: Our justice system in my opinion makes things too difficult to effectively police. Too much red tape, human rights, and crybabies
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 06:03 PM
What is wrong....Police investigating police. We need an independent body to deal with police wrong doings.
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 06:19 PM
what would you define as a perfect system?
one where there is no crime? one where all criminals are caught swiftly and rehabilitated? How about instead of rehabilitate, they are punished?
One where all the police are happy and cheerful, and help the old ladies cross the street and rescue the kitten from the tree? How about one where there is summary execution? That way there is no need for jails.
There is no perfect system, and if it is, it is not perfect for everyone.
====================================
One needs a justice system that is bound by a charter of human rights including Habeas corpus and presumption of innocence.
CHECK
One needs a justice system that offers hope to criminals incarcerated that has a balance between punishment and rehabilitation
ummmm CHECK but we are more on the side of rehab here and less on punishment. Personally, criminals could rot in a 5x5 cell for all I care (see not perfect for everyone)
One needs to be able to hold police accountable for transgressions against the charter
CHECK
What is so wrong here? why dont you explain to me what is so horrible about our justice system, except that it is too weak (if you ask me)
edit: Our justice system in my opinion makes things too difficult to effectively police. Too much red tape, human rights, and crybabies
I was actually refering to what countries that are in such dire need of police training that we would offer help with our own depleted law enforcement resources.
buildinthaskinnys
04-12-2009, 06:31 PM
Frankly I could give a shit about who they are training, honestly I think they arent doing that bad of a job with what they have, and as far as the main criteria of their job goes, which is basically writing out traffic infractions, that probably consumes 80 % of their time, they do fine there.
Not a job I would want, mainly because I wouldnt believe in half the shit that I am supposed to be enforcing, like seat belt tickets for adults , or catching some dude smoking a reefer. How about giving someone a 500 dollar fine for not having the insurance documentation? even though you know the car is insured? just to prove a point.
CanadianIron
04-12-2009, 07:00 PM
What is wrong....Police investigating police. We need an independent body to deal with police wrong doings.
That would be ideal, but I think we'd end up canning half of the cops out there. They probably pull so much illegal shit we dont even know the half of it. A lot of their job likely has to be "off the books"... if you clamp their nuts too tight, no one will want to be police and we're left scraping the bottom of the barrell for law enforcement.
Bowlcut
04-12-2009, 08:20 PM
I will maintain that the RCMP is the biggest gang in Canada. Lots of good people working for them, but the bureauRATs in Ottawa in charge are scum, Zacaradelli included. I know for a fact that some of them have ties to the military and police in China.
MikeyFXD35
04-12-2009, 09:02 PM
no one will want to be police and we're left scraping the bottom of the barrell for law enforcement.
I think we already are....LOL Im talking about the cop on the street not the gang task force undercover stuff. Yes those guy will have to break the law or they will be pegged right away. Thats a whole other thread.
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