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Reaver.
27-11-2009, 06:27 AM
Hey guys, I was just wondering if this looks alright for a first cycle. From what I've read its pretty standard.

Test E @ 500mg every week (week 1-12)
Dbol @ 30mg everyday (weeks 4-8)
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/20 (week 13-17)
Clomid - 100/100/50 (week 13-15)

While I take Dbol I was going to take some Liver Support as well.

For the Test E I was thinking of going for 14 weeks, the last two weeks I was going to taper down.

kloan
27-11-2009, 07:04 AM
Yup, everything looks fine there.

Tapering down is something I'm trying this time around myself. I think there's definitely some sound logic to it.

Talo
27-11-2009, 08:25 AM
From what I have read clomid and Nolvadex together are not needed. One or the other.

theboss
27-11-2009, 09:18 AM
for this cycle nolva should be fine.
clomid would be helpful if you are concerned.

Delt King
27-11-2009, 10:33 AM
I wouldn't start PCT till after you're done your test e if you're going to taper it off though. But i wouldn't taper instead think about front loading your first week in order to bring up your test levels up quicker to make the most of your cycle.

waderow
27-11-2009, 11:14 AM
Shouldn't he take a week or two off before starting pct?

yup
begin pct week15

Delt King
27-11-2009, 11:25 AM
^^ Agreed ^^

Reaver.
27-11-2009, 05:27 PM
Ya sorry, I was going to do that, I just forgot to change the weeks up after I decided to taper for 14 weeks, but now im thinking ill just do front loading.

So, from what I read from you guys I should,

Test E 500mg for 12 weeks
DBol 30mg for 4 weeks
Nolva only for 5 weeks

and start PCT 2 weeks after last shot

PdH
27-11-2009, 06:01 PM
Ya sorry, I was going to do that, I just forgot to change the weeks up after I decided to taper for 14 weeks, but now im thinking ill just do front loading.

So, from what I read from you guys I should,

Test E 500mg for 12 weeks
DBol 30mg for 4 weeks
Nolva only for 5 weeks and front load?

and start PCT 2 weeks after last shot

He's talking about front loading test, not nolva.

Reaver.
27-11-2009, 06:06 PM
He's talking about front loading test, not nolva.

Haha, well thats why it is the beginner forum :P Thanks!

waderow
27-11-2009, 06:07 PM
week1 1000mg test e (twice a week)
week 2 750mg test e (twice a week)
week 3-12 500mg test e (twice a week)
week 6-10 or 8-12 dbol 30mg ed (15mg twice a day)

week 15 nolva 40mg ed
week 16-20 nolva 20mg ed

Reaver.
27-11-2009, 06:25 PM
week1 1000mg test e (twice a week)
week 2 750mg test e (twice a week)
week 3-12 500mg test e (twice a week)
week 6-10 or 8-12 dbol 30mg ed (15mg twice a day)

week 15 nolva 40mg ed
week 16-20 nolva 20mg ed

This looks great. Thanks alot!

waderow
27-11-2009, 06:39 PM
just to clarify... ^^ week 1 for example: you mean 500mg one day and another 500mg another day to equal 1000 mgs right? otherwise 2000mgs would be a hellofa lot! :) magine you'd be a horny freak!

split. the first number is the total mg per week.

KoN
07-12-2009, 02:02 AM
What's the rationale for using the dBol later in the cycle?

MMASTAR
07-12-2009, 06:36 AM
What's the rationale for using the dBol later in the cycle?

so the test is fully kicked in, synergy.