Halotestin

[TryGear]

anyone care to share their experiances with this? I hear it's great for strenght and agression but not much for size?

[natenator]

why is this under the HRT section???

Plenty of discussion regarding halo on this site. Search it.

[theboss]

why is this under the HRT section???



isnt that the only section we got ?

[kloan]

yeah, i was confused by that as well for a while since i only click the new posts link for the most part... the AAS section is now the HRT section.

[theboss]

its the same....but different.

[natenator]

oh hmm. Didn't know it was renamed lol

[Rhinobolt10]

Well,

Took halo 2 weeks before a strongman comp. 20mgs a day, generally before training, and all those sessions went very well. I didn't feel wildly more agressive, but I was able to get pretty jacked up.

Day of the comp I took a whole bunch 50-80mgs, and I did some shit that for me was pretty effing good.

That's all I've got for you. I personally would never use it longer than 3 weeks f I ever did it again. Not that I've got blood work to back it up or anything.

[Vitamin S]

its more of a cosmetic drug used in bodybuilding for the last 2-3 weeks i would say to harden up. unless u single digit 4-7 percent range i bet its a waste of money.

for powerlifting i can see the added aggresion since its a strong androge, but i think bi daily shots of suspenion would go further for strength and aggression

[tex]

agreed ^ only for experienced users and right before a show.

[Rhinobolt10]

its more of a cosmetic drug used in bodybuilding for the last 2-3 weeks i would say to harden up. unless u single digit 4-7 percent range i bet its a waste of money.

for powerlifting i can see the added aggresion since its a strong androge, but i think bi daily shots of suspenion would go further for strength and aggression

I've never given suspension a shot, but I hear the extra water weight can be a little rough.

All I know is that the halo worked well. After I try a few different things i'll figure out what works best for me.

But, I hope you've actually used all the compounds you're talking about dude.

[Vitamin S]

sure have bro, used them all halotestin i got good aggression but not much in terms of strength gains, but when i did suspension i did it once a day, as oppose to twice a day and ihear its better to take 2 50mg shots then 1 100mg due to ester half life. i actually got really strong and then fukkin injured, but yah it will put on some water weight, so best to stick to halo i guess if ur not in the open weight class division.

[Rhinobolt10]

my buddy swears bu suspension and dbol, did the best lifting of his life on that.

Has me kinda curious...

[St]

Don't go to stores were you have to stand in line,and don't get stuck at a Yellow light you will see.

[natenator]

Don't go to stores were you have to stand in line,and don't get stuck at a Yellow light you will see.
hehehe


so true! lol

[jacked_to_the_nine]

i love halo... started taking 20mg 2 weeks out from my mma fight and noticed it with in 3 days... a week into it i started taking 40mg ED and i started to turn into a rabbid freak, snarling and growling at people, it was great, the strength was inceadible, and i was even cutting still and getting stronger... i won my fight in the second round, smashed the guy to peices, and i even took the first shot of the night right square in the face and walked right through it like nothing even hit me... i recomend halo for combat sports forever, but not for BB unless your 3 weeks out... amazing drug!

[nii]

but when i did suspension i did it once a day, as oppose to twice a day and ihear its better to take 2 50mg shots then 1 100mg due to ester half life.

I thought suspension had no ester. Hence the immediate results.

[TryGear]

sounds like what I want but I'm wondering about just 20-40mg about an hour before a workout, and not an everyday thing? think it would help this way.....for just the workout agression? it would be in conjunction with a current cycle of test.

[natenator]

sounds like what I want but I'm wondering about just 20-40mg about an hour before a workout, and not an everyday thing? think it would help this way.....for just the workout agression? it would be in conjunction with a current cycle of test.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you need a compound like Halo to become more aggressive in the gym and train with better intensity then you need to seriously consider if BB'ing or PL'ing is for you.

[Praetorian]

I thought suspension had no ester. Hence the immediate results.

true it has no ester....multi shots per day are best...you dont retain much water on suspension because its esterless...ie fast...halo should only be used by PL's, competing BB, or MMA fighters who actually compete.
Halo is great for strength, aggression, and cosmetic hardening...but taxing on the body, liver, high blood pressure, etc
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[Praetorian]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you need a compound like Halo to become more aggressive in the gym and train with better intensity then you need to seriously consider if BB'ing or PL'ing is for you.

True...maybe ping pong.
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[Praetorian]

sounds like what I want but I'm wondering about just 20-40mg about an hour before a workout, and not an everyday thing? think it would help this way.....for just the workout agression? it would be in conjunction with a current cycle of test.

Completely unnecessary!
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[natenator]

True...maybe ping pong.
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lol

I was thinking along the lines of checkers

[TryGear]

lol

I was thinking along the lines of checkers


so what you're saying is that I'm the only one in the world who's ever done aas and ocassionally had motivation problems???
please clear it up for me,

for those that offered useful advice, thanks

[tex]

im not on aas on dont have motivational probs....and I am doing between 5-8 training sessions per week :) perhaps if i were "on" i might be able to do the 10+ that some pl'rs do.....

[natenator]

so what you're saying is that I'm the only one in the world who's ever done aas and ocassionally had motivation problems???
please clear it up for me,

for those that offered useful advice, thanks
occassional motivation is fine - we all experience it. Take a caffeine pill, listen to some music, watch bodybuilding vids on youtube.

If you need to resort to a drug like halo to get you amped then like I said, maybe this isn't a sport for you. And when I say sport I really mean sport. There are guys here who aren't gym rats and are VERY serious in their training. If you are the guy who simply trains to stay in shape and try to look good (I don't know if you are or aren't - just saying) then Halo is DEFINITELY not something you should be considering.

[nii]

and I am doing between 5-8 training sessions per week :)

i feel sorry for your body :P Its rare seeing a >5 split.
Ive never heard of a 10 session split! You must have to eat 7K per day to be able to recover from that lol

[TryGear]

occassional motivation is fine - we all experience it. Take a caffeine pill, listen to some music, watch bodybuilding vids on youtube.

If you need to resort to a drug like halo to get you amped then like I said, maybe this isn't a sport for you. And when I say sport I really mean sport. There are guys here who aren't gym rats and are VERY serious in their training. If you are the guy who simply trains to stay in shape and try to look good (I don't know if you are or aren't - just saying) then Halo is DEFINITELY not something you should be considering.

I didn't say I need to resort to a drug like Halo, I was simply wondering about it's abilities as perhaps a useful adjunct. with that being said, I'm not a minor gymrat "no offense to those who are" my training directly impacts my outcomes in status and finacial ways. so my training is "VERY" serious too.

stating I should take up ping pong is undermining someone you don't even know, but if your intentions were to keep me away from a serious drug that I may have been underestimating....... then I thank you.

PS. I'm not a PL'er or BB'er

[natenator]

I didn't say I need to resort to a drug like Halo, I was simply wondering about it's abilities as perhaps a useful adjunct. with that being said, I'm not a minor gymrat "no offense to those who are" my training directly impacts my outcomes in status and finacial ways. so my training is "VERY" serious too.

stating I should take up ping pong is undermining someone you don't even know, but if your intentions were to keep me away from a serious drug that I may have been underestimating....... then I thank you.

PS. I'm not a PL'er or BB'er
I said checkers for the record. Praetorian said ping pong. lol

While I often have a harsh manner to how I say things it isn't meant to undermine you or make you feel stupid. It's out of concern for your health and safety as a drug such as HALO is not something to take lightly.

[tex]

i feel sorry for your body :P Its rare seeing a >5 split.
Ive never heard of a 10 session split! You must have to eat 7K per day to be able to recover from that lol i weighed in at 245 yesterday....ive been steady gaining for the past few months...up 14 lbs since my last cycle :) i train wsb...so its like 4 workouts with weights and the rest is gpp......box jumps, step ups, sledgehammer work, stretching with bands etc......some of the more advanced lifters do 14 a week....as far as calories go, well i dont count them....i eat a lot and often.

[TryGear]

I said checkers for the record. Praetorian said ping pong. lol

While I often have a harsh manner to how I say things it isn't meant to undermine you or make you feel stupid. It's out of concern for your health and safety as a drug such as HALO is not something to take lightly.

no worries, it's all good, I better stick to lifting anyway, I suck at Checkers and ping pong.

[jacked_to_the_nine]

what the hell is everyone talking about, motivation and shit, and ping pong? just do the halo man, its an awsome drug, but you just can't use it for more then 3 weeks streight, its a PRE CONTEST drug for sports for christ sakes, strength and aggression are its charactaristics! however if your already on test then you can tottaly use it EOD, as long as your test levels are steady from the test your useing then you should be fine... but i wouldn't bounce that for more then 6 weeks... i really don't know what the hell buddy is talking about in terms of motivation... if you wanna be the best then juice is the way to take your training to the next level! don't listen to these moralistic guru wannabe's, they're fools man! you wanna be the best? you wanna win? then you have to do whatever it takes, PERIOD! just be smart about it and don't abuse AAS, there is a big diffrence between athletes and some of these steroid junkies man, its your choice what path you take, just don't get the 2 confused!

[Praetorian]

what the hell is everyone talking about, motivation and shit, and ping pong? just do the halo man, its an awsome drug, but you just can't use it for more then 3 weeks streight, its a PRE CONTEST drug for sports for christ sakes, strength and aggression are its charactaristics! however if your already on test then you can tottaly use it EOD, as long as your test levels are steady from the test your useing then you should be fine... but i wouldn't bounce that for more then 6 weeks... i really don't know what the hell buddy is talking about in terms of motivation... if you wanna be the best then juice is the way to take your training to the next level! don't listen to these moralistic guru wannabe's, they're fools man! you wanna be the best? you wanna win? then you have to do whatever it takes, PERIOD! just be smart about it and don't abuse AAS, there is a big diffrence between athletes and some of these steroid junkies man, its your choice what path you take, just don't get the 2 confused!


The most irresponsible and ignorant advice I've seen posted yet.

"if you wanna be the best then juice is the way to take your training to the next level!"

the above comment is absolutely ludicrous!

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[jacked_to_the_nine]

The most irresponsible and ignorant advice I've seen posted yet.

"if you wanna be the best then juice is the way to take your training to the next level!"

the above comment is absolutely ludicrous!

P


i mean the athlete can do amazing things naturaly yes indeed, but an athlete with the proper knowledge in regards to how to use AAS will always have the advantage PERIOD! i've seen many athletes on AAS fail at thier sport, but when you look deeper into the situation, you will find they had no idea what they were doing... our most admirable athletes, have all done some type of AAS to enhance thier performance and become titans in thier sport! get it right and dial into the world of steroids to become bigger, stronger and faster! get it wrong and deal with the consequences!

[Praetorian]

i mean the athlete can do amazing things naturaly yes indeed, but an athlete with the proper knowledge in regards to how to use AAS will always have the advantage PERIOD! i've seen many athletes on AAS fail at thier sport, but when you look deeper into the situation, you will find they had no idea what they were doing... our most admirable athletes, have all done some type of AAS to enhance thier performance and become titans in thier sport! get it right and dial into the world of steroids to become bigger, stronger and faster! get it wrong and deal with the consequences!

The best athlete will ALWAYS be the one with the best genetics. Thats life...it sucks but get used to it. AAS are a part of sports yes indeed but they do not determine the top athletes. Take away AAS and the top athletes will remain at the top. Without AAS Dorian, Ronnie, Lee, Arnold would all still be Mr Olympia...the same can be said about Jordan, Gretzky, Woods, Sanders, Payton, etc. Yes drugs will make a good athlete better...but they wont make a mediocre athlete the best.
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[C-money]

The best athlete will ALWAYS be the one with the best genetics. Thats life...it sucks but get used to it. AAS are a part of sports yes indeed but they do not determine the top athletes. Take away AAS and the top athletes will remain at the top. Without AAS Dorian, Ronnie, Lee, Arnold would all still be Mr Olympia...the same can be said about Jordan, Gretzky, Woods, Sanders, Payton, etc. Yes drugs will make a good athlete better...but they wont make a mediocre athlete the best.
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without AAS would Mark Mcgwire have hit 70+ home runs? Chances are slim..Got juice?.. lol, in most cases the top athletes are the top cause of genetics... not in all cases though P

[trainharder]

The best athlete will ALWAYS be the one with the best genetics. Thats life...it sucks but get used to it. AAS are a part of sports yes indeed but they do not determine the top athletes. Take away AAS and the top athletes will remain at the top. Without AAS Dorian, Ronnie, Lee, Arnold would all still be Mr Olympia...the same can be said about Jordan, Gretzky, Woods, Sanders, Payton, etc. Yes drugs will make a good athlete better...but they wont make a mediocre athlete the best.
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One thing we can all agree upon is that Gretzky never touch the juice ;)

[natenator]

without AAS would Mark Mcgwire have hit 70+ home runs? Chances are slim..Got juice?.. lol, in most cases the top athletes are the top cause of genetics... not in all cases though P
big Mac was still a superior athlete and known long ball hitter so his genetics made him a hell of a baseball hitter and AAS made him that much better.

[C-money]

big Mac was still a superior athlete and known long ball hitter so his genetics made him a hell of a baseball hitter and AAS made him that much better.

agreed he was a GOOD MLB home run hitter usually around 40 homers a season... AAS helped him be THE BEST HOME RUN HITTER EVER....

[Praetorian]

agreed he was a GOOD MLB home run hitter usually around 40 homers a season... AAS helped him be THE BEST HOME RUN HITTER EVER....

And AAS gave Ronnie 8 Sandows...would he have won 8 without aas not a chance...but neither would any of his competition...give a great athlete aas and you have a multi Mr O. Sports is about genetics...you have them or you dont...there are other variables yes, work ethic, drive etc...but all things being equal....the trump card is genetics hands down. Show me ONE mediocre athlete who reigned at the top of his sport for years because he decided to take aas...JUST ONE!
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[Praetorian]

big Mac was still a superior athlete and known long ball hitter so his genetics made him a hell of a baseball hitter and AAS made him that much better.

Bingo!
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[C-money]

And AAS gave Ronnie 8 Sandows...would he have won 8 without aas not a chance...but neither would any of his competition...give a great athlete aas and you have a multi Mr O. Sports is about genetics...you have them or you dont...there are other variables yes, work ethic, drive etc...but all things being equal....the trump card is genetics hands down. Show me ONE mediocre athlete who reigned at the top of his sport for years because he decided to take aas...JUST ONE!
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big mac went from 40 homers a year, up to 70 lol... those pop flys that were outs were now gliding over the fence lol... weve had a debat similar to this before P, i agree genetics are number one, no doubt about it.. but you down play the drugs way too much.. k you dont have to answer this if you dont want... youre a smart guy.. im sure your first cycle was a simple test based cycle.. something basic like 500 mg per week... when you were hitting up the national stages, did your drug dosage/schedule increase? more compounds? If so why? If not i call bullshit..
genetics are #1 for sure! but AAS do/can/will give you a drastic performance increase whether you a shitty/mediocre/elite athlete

[C-money]

Another thing, if you were an elite athlete making millions in your sport... Why risk taking AAS especially if youre already at the top???:popc2

[natenator]

big mac went from 40 homers a year, up to 70 lol... those pop flys that were outs were now gliding over the fence lol... weve had a debat similar to this before P, i agree genetics are number one, no doubt about it.. but you down play the drugs way too much.. k you dont have to answer this if you dont want... youre a smart guy.. im sure your first cycle was a simple test based cycle.. something basic like 500 mg per week... when you were hitting up the national stages, did your drug dosage/schedule increase? more compounds? If so why? If not i call bullshit..
genetics are #1 for sure! but AAS do/can/will give you a drastic performance increase whether you a shitty/mediocre/elite athlete
here's the differnce: it make a below average player average, an average player good, a good play great and a great player a hall of famer/champion

[C-money]

here's the differnce: it make a below average player average, an average player good, a good play great and a great player a hall of famer/champion

I agree with that

[Praetorian]

I agree with that

Read my post again...that is exactly what i said. I do not down play the drugs in sports issue...in fact i am the first to acknowledge that without them we wouldnt be witnessing the world records or physiques we see today. Drugs have been and always will play a role in sports...BUT....they do not create champions from mediocre athletes...the also do not create an uneven playing field ...they actually level the playing field. You will never get to the Olympic 100m final without some assistance...on the other hand...you wont get there either by from being an average sprinter and running a few cycles of aas....forget it. The problem is not down playing the role of drugs in sports but emphasizing their role and this leads to the thinking that the bigger the BB the more drugs he takes....or to Mr O you need to take 4g test per week and 30iu gh per day. Nothing could be further from the truth and this leads to irresponsible and dangerous use of aas by uninformed individuals.
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PS. ask any pro BB "off the record" on what contributes to his success and almost 100% of the time aas will be last or not even on the list

[Praetorian]

big mac went from 40 homers a year, up to 70 lol... those pop flys that were outs were now gliding over the fence lol... weve had a debat similar to this before P, i agree genetics are number one, no doubt about it.. but you down play the drugs way too much.. k you dont have to answer this if you dont want... youre a smart guy.. im sure your first cycle was a simple test based cycle.. something basic like 500 mg per week... when you were hitting up the national stages, did your drug dosage/schedule increase? more compounds? If so why? If not i call bullshit..
genetics are #1 for sure! but AAS do/can/will give you a drastic performance increase whether you a shitty/mediocre/elite athlete

It's simple...it happens with all drugs including everyones favourite....alcohol....its called attenuation...the body requires a higher dose to get the same effect...this does not emphasize drug use at all...however there is a limiting factor and my cycles have not changed in he last 4-5 years...in fact they are probably more conservative now then ever... again more is not necessarily better.
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[Praetorian]

Another thing, if you were an elite athlete making millions in your sport... Why risk taking AAS especially if youre already at the top???:popc2

Read the book "Speed Trap" by Charlie Francis...your questions will be answered.
When Ben was at the top of his game 1987-88 his competitors used 5-10 times the amount of drugs anyone on the Canadian team used including Ben...yet he beat them all easily.
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[C-money]

Read the book "Speed Trap" by Charlie Francis...your questions will be answered.
When Ben was at the top of his game 1987-88 his competitors used 5-10 times the amount of drugs anyone on the Canadian team used including Ben...yet he beat them all easily.
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neat

[C-money]

The most irresponsible and ignorant advice I've seen posted yet.

"if you wanna be the best then juice is the way to take your training to the next level!"

the above comment is absolutely ludicrous!

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I would continue with this but you contradict yourself so bad... here your saying its ludicrous... now your agreeing with what nate wrote...

[Rhinobolt10]

The dude didn't even read through the thread... Talking about being a winner and crap, when the guy originally asking isn't a powerlifter or bodybuilder.... he sounds like a personal trainer to me.

Halos good under the right circumstances... other than that not much point.

[tex]

I would continue with this but you contradict yourself so bad... here your saying its ludicrous... now your agreeing with what nate wrote... he said your advice to a regular joe is crazy......we dont even know what this guy is training for but i bet it isnt a powerlifting meet or a bodybuilding show or to hit 70 home runs.....i bet he's a gym rat and you were telling him to juice it up if he wants to be a winner.....how can you give the guy advice when you have NO idea what he is training for?! this is how ppl get hurt from abusing steroids.....someone gives them the ole "whatever it takes" speech and they set out doing ridiculous cycles.....

[jacked_to_the_nine]

The best athlete will ALWAYS be the one with the best genetics. Thats life...it sucks but get used to it. AAS are a part of sports yes indeed but they do not determine the top athletes. Take away AAS and the top athletes will remain at the top. Without AAS Dorian, Ronnie, Lee, Arnold would all still be Mr Olympia...the same can be said about Jordan, Gretzky, Woods, Sanders, Payton, etc. Yes drugs will make a good athlete better...but they wont make a mediocre athlete the best.
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ya i would have to agree with this statement to a point though... you see these geneticaly gifted athletes would be the best indeed regardless but they would unfortunatly have to deal with competeing with other athletes that were useing AAS, and for them to stay at the top they would have to join the club as well... i don't come from an athletic family tree at all, in fact i'm probably the only athlete in the history of my family. my family is mostly from 2nd world type contries and so i suppose my heart and drive give me an advantage in regards to mear survival for my sport, considering the things my family had to go through to survive war and hardship, but i get injured easy and that sucks, so i use a mediate amout of juice to keep up.

[jacked_to_the_nine]

he said your advice to a regular joe is crazy......we dont even know what this guy is training for but i bet it isnt a powerlifting meet or a bodybuilding show or to hit 70 home runs.....i bet he's a gym rat and you were telling him to juice it up if he wants to be a winner.....how can you give the guy advice when you have NO idea what he is training for?! this is how ppl get hurt from abusing steroids.....someone gives them the ole "whatever it takes" speech and they set out doing ridiculous cycles.....

hold on a second, are you saying you shouldn't use AAS unless your competeing in a sport? cuz i think if your into working out and you've hit some what of a platue then by all means, do them, just do them right is all... your right about getting hurt from abusing steroids, but dude, if the guy is stupid enough to abuse AAS right off the bat then he's a lost cause, its not like we can stop him anyway... study the effects, learn the what the proper doses are, and make sure your source is legit, and STERALIZE!

[natenator]

I would continue with this but you contradict yourself so bad... here your saying its ludicrous... now your agreeing with what nate wrote...
Ummm it's the other way around. I've been agreeing with him. I just tried to dumb it down for you so you better understood what he was trying to say.

[C-money]

Ummm it's the other way around. I've been agreeing with him. I just tried to dumb it down for you so you better understood what he was trying to say.
aw man you and P are cute.. good little bromance going on..but in reality it sounds like we must be agreeing on the same thing.. just argueing to argue:p...therefore im done in this thread

[Praetorian]

I would continue with this but you contradict yourself so bad... here your saying its ludicrous... now your agreeing with what nate wrote...

Cmon C you're a smart guy...look at the original post by JTTN....and the original thread starter. We are not talking an elite athlete here...we are talking an average gym goer using drugs ie halo to take their training to the next level. The context of the post suggest all you need to do is take drugs and youll be a better athlete...this is BS. For one it takes years to perfect form and technique in training...not drugs....ask Rhino. Not to mention a sound knowledge of nutrition etc. Ive seen so many guys run many cycles in the gym and you couldnt even tell they train...they couldnt even hit a 315lb bench or 405deadlift...what a joke...these guys dont need drugs to take their training to the next level...be serious....they need to learn how to train period. Yes drugs will take a great athlete to the elite level...but it wont take an average Joe to the next level...that IS ludicrous.
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[Praetorian]

hold on a second, are you saying you shouldn't use AAS unless your competeing in a sport? cuz i think if your into working out and you've hit some what of a platue then by all means, do them, just do them right is all... your right about getting hurt from abusing steroids, but dude, if the guy is stupid enough to abuse AAS right off the bat then he's a lost cause, its not like we can stop him anyway... study the effects, learn the what the proper doses are, and make sure your source is legit, and STERALIZE!

Im saying if you are not competing than there is no benefit to increasing the risk associated with aas by using very toxic compounds....much safer alternatives are available.
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[bongd]

All semantics aside, I think what P said just made the most sense. There are other compounds you can take where the risk vs reward margin is much more narrow.

Sometimes I scoff at caffeine and supplements, then I'll take a little pre workout supp (caffeine, arginine and some nootropics for enhanced focus) and it'll feel like I'm jacked to the tits. I don't recommend picking up the entire Muscletech line, but I always have a pre workout supplement in my cupboard for days when I'm not feeling 100% ready to kill the weights.

Some people still might laugh, but there are some good pre workout supplements out there. The nootropics in there combined with caffeine made for a great workout. I also take a small puff before I workout and it really gets my muscles relaxed and totally primed for working out.

[TryGear]

Nope. I'm not a personal trainer but I make a living by being big and strong. Not a bouncer either. But this is the longest any of my threads have gone on. Great debates.

[tex]

hold on a second, are you saying you shouldn't use AAS unless your competeing in a sport? cuz i think if your into working out and you've hit some what of a platue then by all means, do them, just do them right is all... your right about getting hurt from abusing steroids, but dude, if the guy is stupid enough to abuse AAS right off the bat then he's a lost cause, its not like we can stop him anyway... study the effects, learn the what the proper doses are, and make sure your source is legit, and STERALIZE! halo is not a drug to be used by the casual user or gym rat.....quit skirtin around the issue. The point is , halo has very few uses and should not be used as a pick-me-up for the gym. If you need drugs to make it to the gym then pick another hobby cuz you arent cut out for weightlifting/bodybuilding. Abuse drugs all you want but dont give advice to people to do the same....its irresponsible!!

[tex]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to natenator again

[jacked_to_the_nine]

halo is not a drug to be used by the casual user or gym rat.....quit skirtin around the issue. The point is , halo has very few uses and should not be used as a pick-me-up for the gym. If you need drugs to make it to the gym then pick another hobby cuz you arent cut out for weightlifting/bodybuilding. Abuse drugs all you want but dont give advice to people to do the same....its irresponsible!!

in the past post before the one your criticizing me on, i mentioned that halo was best used only for the competitor, and like me, i compete and i used it 2 weeks out from my comp, and it worked amazing, i had no sides at all, the only thing i noticed was that my head was really ichy from the androgen FLH shit, but my hair didn't fall out or nothing, jeeze lol... after the comp i simply tapered off of it and i was fine... what i said about hitting platues, is that if you've been training for long enough then why the hell wouldn't you up your training with some test or something, or maybe some d-bol, there's nothing wrong with that, and i'll say it again for 500th fleakin time, if your doses are correct and your gear is legit, and you know what your doing, and you don't have any pre-existing health problems THEN YOU WILL BE FINE!!!! but you know what, if you want, just take your pussy caffine and listen to your john mayer CD and hit all the platues you want! i'm dont on this BS... pro steroids for life!